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Mitt Romney Video: Barack Obama Voters 'Dependent On Government'

3:45 pm - 09/17/2012
WASHINGTON -- The overwhelming majority of voters who back President Barack Obama do so because they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing," Mitt Romney told a closed-door gathering of about 30 major donors earlier this year, according to video of the event that has surfaced on the Internet.
The person who uploaded a series of potentially inflammatory videos from the fundraiser has claimed authorship of them in an email exchange with The Huffington Post. The source said he or she wishes to remain anonymous for professional reasons and to avoid a lawsuit. The videos, which have created a buzz on the Internet, were blurred and at times blacked out to obscure the location of the filming, the source said.

"I have obviously degraded the quality to attempt to camo the location," said the clandestine filmmaker. The original, which has not been posted in full, is very high quality, the source said.

The source has given the full video to Mother Jones' David Corn, the source said.
The videos capture Romney speaking loosely about Obama supporters, immigrants, privilege and a host of other controversial issues. The candidate seems unguarded and displays the sense of humor that is often mentioned by those close to him, but is so rarely on public display.

The Romney campaign did not respond to a request for comment.





It's Romney's remark about the president's backers that might have the most potential to undermine his candidacy, however, as Romney seeks to persuade people who voted for Obama in 2008 to switch this time.

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney says in one clip. "All right -- there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that, that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them. Who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing."

Romney's comments on the video go a step beyond his August claim, made in public, that the Obama administration's state-by-state welfare waivers were an effort to "shore up his base." In the behind-closed-doors speech to donors, Romney seems to be suggesting that nearly half of Americans expect to have all their needs supplied by the government.

As for the other 53 percent? Romney may have been referencing a meme started by conservative blogger Erick Erickson, who has noted that only 53 percent of Americans pay federal income taxes. Erickson argued that the rest of the country, and in particular the Occupy Wall Street movement, should "suck it up you whiners."

The notion that Democrats hope to ride dependency to political power is one that has no shortage of adherents among conservatives. “We are reaching the tipping point where the majority of Americans are recipients of government programs,” columnist George Will said recently on Laura Ingraham's radio show. "Heavens, one in seven of Americans is on food stamps today. The gamble -- it's really not a gamble, the tactic -- of the Democratic Party is to run up the dependency ratio in this country until you get 50-60 percent of Americans dependent on the government in at least one or often in multiple ways, at which point they figure the party of government will always win."

But there are a few problems with the idea of the overburdened "53 percent." Many Americans don't pay federal income taxes, in part, because of deductions like the child tax credit that have been championed by conservatives and progressives alike. Almost all of the "47 percent" do pay other federal taxes in the form of Social Security and Medicare payroll deductions and gas levies, as well as a variety of state and local sales and property taxes that aren't dependent on income.

A separate video clip with Romney addressing deplorable conditions at a Chinese factory began making the rounds on the Internet last month. In that video, he contrasted the conditions he witnessed on a business trip to China with conditions in the United States, where he said, "Ninety-five percent of life is set up for you if you were born in this country."

Commentators have seized on the assertion that people are mostly set if they're born in the U.S. In fact, tens of millions of Americans are jobless or living in poverty. The notion also cuts against one of Romney's campaign themes, which is that those who are successful have gotten to where they are on their own.

In addition, the video is notable for Romney's recounting of conditions he saw at the factory. By his own telling, he seemed satisfied when the factory owner told him the barbed wire was to keep job-seekers out, not to keep workers in. Romney may have been referring to conditions at Global Tech Appliances Inc., a Chinese manufacturer, in which Bain Capital invested, that was fined $2.65 million for ripping off a deep-fat fryer design, according to Boston Globe reporter Matt Viser.

There are at least 10 of these videos, each allegedly clipped from the same fundraiser. A YouTube link to the Chinese factory clip, it turns out, was initially posted in May in the comments section of The Huffington Post under the handle romneyexposed.

The commenter posted a link to a YouTube account by the same name, which includes a version of the factory video and three others. Six more videos exist under another account.
In one of the other videos, Romney lamented, in a joking way, that he would have a better chance of being elected if his father had been ethnically Mexican, rather than born to white parents then living in Mexico.

"My dad, as you probably, know was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company. But he was born in Mexico ... and, uh, had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this," Romney said. "But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. ... I mean I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be Latino."

In a separate video, Romney talks about his success. "Both my dad and [wife] Ann's dad did quite well in their lives. But when they came to the end of their lives and passed along the inheritance to Ann and me, we both decided to give it all away. So I have inherited nothing. Everything that Ann and I have, we earned the old-fashioned way."
Romney's parents did pay for his boarding school, his college, his graduate school and his first home.

He got closer to the truth in another clip. "There's a perception that all of you were born with a silver spoon. You know, you never had to earn anything and so forth," Romney said to the donors. "Frankly, I was born with a silver spoon."



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zharia 17th-Sep-2012 08:23 pm (UTC)
I was coming here to post this if this hasn't been posted yet.

I hope to god some super PAC plays dirty and uses this shit in an ad. I'm becoming more and more okay with being optimistic with the President's reelection.

I can't wait for a tell all book about this horrid campaign.

EDIT: OP This is a better article, from MoJo who have the video with the clips: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/secret-video-romney-private-fundraiser

Edited at 2012-09-17 08:24 pm (UTC)
miss_almost 17th-Sep-2012 09:54 pm (UTC)
prayer circle rn for a super PAC to use the videos in an ad.

cannot wait for them to air "Frankly, I was born with a silver spoon" about a million times.
jaded110 17th-Sep-2012 08:26 pm (UTC)
Fuck. You. Romney.
layweed This is so absurd I'm just going to go off on a "that's not what he meant" tangent...17th-Sep-2012 08:28 pm (UTC)
I really wish this were true and I were "dependent on government". You see, I've been trying to get a job with the government for several months now, and wanting to work for the government since I was a kid. OH WHY WILL YOU NOT LET ME SUCKLE AT YOUR TEAT, SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT OF AMERICA.

Seriously though, Mitt Romney is a fucking joke when he knows he's infront of the camera, now he's been shown to be an even bigger fucking joke when he's being secretly videotaped. Why do people still support him? I mean, ughhhhhhhh. And the worst thing, I bet people who support him and are on government assistance will continue to support him despite this latest foot-in-mouth incident of his.
zharia Re: This is so absurd I'm just going to go off on a "that's not what he meant" tangent...17th-Sep-2012 08:34 pm (UTC)
"OH WHY WILL YOU NOT LET ME SUCKLE AT YOUR TEAT, SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT OF AMERICA."

ngl, this made me cackle.
deborahw37 17th-Sep-2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
Good grief!

Mind you it makes me feel better for finally agreeing with the Tories about something.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/sep/17/conservatives-expect-barack-obama-reelection
the_laugh 17th-Sep-2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
I apologize for the weird spacing. HOW DO I FIX IT??
noon 17th-Sep-2012 10:44 pm (UTC)
this is late but try clicking the "html" tab and pasting the text there instead of the default "rich text" mode.
theguindo 17th-Sep-2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing

um. yes???? why is this even up for debate?!
zharia 17th-Sep-2012 08:34 pm (UTC)
FOOD, HOUSES, AND HEALTHCARE ARE ONLY FOR ANN ROMNEY AND HER PONIES.
fishphile 17th-Sep-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
You know what though. Fuck people who say this shit.

The government is supposed to work for the people. Helping to make sure folks are housed, fed and have good care is what the government should do. That's why people pay taxes.

And you better believe I love the socialized things. I like knowing that I have a relatively small chance of dying from the food I am eating or riding on the roads. I like knowing that there is a place that I can go to share books with other citizens and that I should not be denied housing or a job because some asshole thinks that some part of me is wrong or deficient. When the government works correctly, I like it and I like it a lot. If that makes me dependent on the government then so be it.
havok_for_god 17th-Sep-2012 09:26 pm (UTC)
this this this.
zharia 17th-Sep-2012 08:40 pm (UTC)
I could be angrier about this but really I'm cackling with glee. This idiot has tanked his own campaign.
emofordino 18th-Sep-2012 12:17 am (UTC)
THIS. everything he said was fucking disgusting as hell, but i'm just clutching at the hope that this will give obama a bigger edge. on the other hand, i really really REALLY hope this doesn't appeal to the intense teabaggers, the last thing any of us need is for people to be like "THIS IS THE MITT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR!"
masakochan 17th-Sep-2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
I know I complain a lot about my parents over here, but oh god it makes me want to rage flip a damn table over the fact that they would still vote for this utterly vile man- because they hate Obama so much, and still believe that he's a ~secret Kenyan Muslim terrorist~.

I almost feel like I'd be insulting robots, like Wall-E and Eve, to call him one. Can we just say he's a relative of the Dursleys, whose also related to Umbridge?
4o5pastmidnight 17th-Sep-2012 09:15 pm (UTC)
I think maybe he's working for The Dark Lord.



Edited at 2012-09-17 09:16 pm (UTC)
girl_fusion 17th-Sep-2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
Omg, fuck Romney. Fuck him fuck him!!! I never thought I would come to the point of hatred for this motherfucker but I just peaked. It's fucking possible. Wow. Just the damn arrogance and misinformation he spouts makes me want to be very violent.

I can't wait to see how the Romney campaign spins this.
bananainpyjamas 17th-Sep-2012 08:45 pm (UTC)
Everything that Ann and I have, we earned the old-fashioned way." Romney's parents did pay for his boarding school, his college, his graduate school and his first home.

Uh.

Good lord at that video, he's not even hiding his contempt. He really thinks people who regularly vote for Democrats are "dependent on government" and do not "take personal responsibility and care for their own lives?" How out of touch can someone be?

Edited at 2012-09-17 08:45 pm (UTC)
kyra_neko_rei 17th-Sep-2012 10:00 pm (UTC)
That is how old money does things . . .
hammersxstrings 17th-Sep-2012 08:46 pm (UTC)
i wish this guy would just go choke on a dick

sorry to be so crass, but if i was religious, i would be praying hard that he doesn't get elected in november so he can fade into oblivion


Also, I'm gonna start posting this more often cause it makes me feel a little better at least



Edited at 2012-09-17 08:52 pm (UTC)
lickety_split 18th-Sep-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
Not crass enough tbh.
angry_chick 17th-Sep-2012 08:52 pm (UTC)
So when the poor get hungry and there's nothing left, we'll eat you and your wife, Mitt.
layweed 17th-Sep-2012 09:19 pm (UTC)
Soylent Green is rich people?!
executivehpfan 17th-Sep-2012 09:04 pm (UTC)
Is it time for the first debate yet? I'm so ready to see this asshole get schooled.
mollywobbles867 17th-Sep-2012 09:08 pm (UTC)
October 3rd.
mollywobbles867 17th-Sep-2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
"believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

HOW DARE THEY!!!!111

He got closer to the truth in another clip. "There's a perception that all of you were born with a silver spoon. You know, you never had to earn anything and so forth," Romney said to the donors. "Frankly, I was born with a silver spoon."

No shit, dipshit.

In a separate video, Romney talks about his success. "Both my dad and [wife] Ann's dad did quite well in their lives. But when they came to the end of their lives and passed along the inheritance to Ann and me, we both decided to give it all away. So I have inherited nothing. Everything that Ann and I have, we earned the old-fashioned way."

Romney's parents did pay for his boarding school, his college, his graduate school and his first home.


celtic_thistle 17th-Sep-2012 09:47 pm (UTC)
That gif is perfect for this whole clusterfuck.
lovedforaday 17th-Sep-2012 09:06 pm (UTC)
That's been a talking point among the GOP/Fox News types for awhile.

Guess it was only an accident Mitt the shit was caught on tape saying this. He says this in private for the fat cats, and his surrogates say it in public for the poor working-class white folks and the rest of their base.
zhiva_the_mage 17th-Sep-2012 09:18 pm (UTC)
# The overwhelming majority of voters who back President Barack Obama do so because they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing," Mitt Romney told #

So, there's a document, The Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It says:

Article 22.

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

Article 25.

(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

Article 30.

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.


IIRC US voted in favour of UDHR when it was adopted, and Soviet Union with its satellites abstained. For people who think that government should have as least authority as possible, Republicans seem to have too much in common with totalitarian states.
hammersxstrings 17th-Sep-2012 09:21 pm (UTC)
you try and make that connection tho (re: conservatives and totalitarianism) and they look at you like they have no idea where you pulled that from. except EVERY FUCKING WHERE
hauntermooneyes 17th-Sep-2012 09:26 pm (UTC)
This man is a piece of shit.

From another video via Mother Jones: "And in a setting like this, a highly intellectual subject—discussion on a whole series of important topics typically doesn't win elections."

So basically "Crime. Boy, I don't know"?
celtic_thistle 17th-Sep-2012 09:32 pm (UTC)
I was coming here to post this. What an absolute fucking sociopath. YES GOD FORBID THE MOST OBSCENELY WEALTHY NATION ON EARTH ENSURES ITS PEOPLE HAVE BASIC FUCKING NECESSITIES

It's sure easy to handwave those who "depend" on government when you have no idea about their lives or WHY they're so poor...especially since people like YOU are a big part of the reason there's such inequality.

Fucking Willard.
masakochan 17th-Sep-2012 10:00 pm (UTC)
Seems a similar brainwave has been going others minds here. As soon as I saw it pop up on my tumblr dashboard- I came over here to see if I needed to post it.

What an absolute fucking sociopath.

He really is shaping up at sounding like one. Because- at the very least, he does check off on having sociopathic tendencies/mannerisms/behaviors.
yeats 17th-Sep-2012 09:35 pm (UTC)
"My dad, as you probably, know was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company. But he was born in Mexico ... and, uh, had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this," Romney said. "But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. ... I mean I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be Latino."

...orly
layweed 17th-Sep-2012 09:42 pm (UTC)
Ikr. That entire paragraph was like.......whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? "jokingly"...yeah. jokingly.
massielita 17th-Sep-2012 09:45 pm (UTC)
The shock on my face, you guys
redstar826 17th-Sep-2012 10:05 pm (UTC)
I think people tend to forget how many middle class Americans are middle class specifically because of government programs.

My grand father went to college because of the GI Bill. Same for my father. My grandparents went from being dirt poor farmers to middle class thanks to various veteran benefits and from wages my grandmother earned working here at home for the war effort. My mother went to nursing school for free thanks to a government program. My dad had a good job and great benefits working for our county government. Not to mention the value of public schools, public libraries, etc in all of our educations.
mollywobbles867 17th-Sep-2012 10:10 pm (UTC)
Needs "eat the rich" tag! lol
lollycunt 17th-Sep-2012 10:10 pm (UTC)
I doubt this will hurt him very much, a lot of his poor voter base doesn't like to think about people being dependant on the government (even when they are dependent themselves). He would probably get applause for saying this at a republican rally.
brucelynn 17th-Sep-2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
Photobucket


This moron ..... man listen

palebluedot09 18th-Sep-2012 03:03 am (UTC)
omg i love you
posting a gd gif in response to something political
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