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Tests Only Identify Zimmerman's DNA on Handgun

3:14 pm - 09/19/2012
By MIKE SCHNEIDER Associated Press
ORLANDO, Fla. September 19, 2012 (AP)

Forensic tests made public Wednesday show that George Zimmerman's was the only DNA that could be identified on the grip of the gun used to fatally shoot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The results rule out Martin's DNA from being on the gun's grip. Zimmerman's DNA also was identified on the gun's holster, but no determination could be made as to whether Martin's DNA was on the gun's holster, according to the report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder for fatally shooting Martin during a confrontation in a gated community in Sanford in February. Zimmerman is pleading not guilty, claiming self-defense.

A delay in Zimmerman's arrest led to nationwide protests.

The question of whose DNA is on the gun and holster could play a role in Zimmerman's defense.

Zimmerman says Martin had been on top of him, slamming his head against the ground and smothering his mouth and nose with his hand and arm when he grabbed his gun from a holster on his waist before Martin could get it. He shot the teenager once in the chest.

Other documents released by prosecutors Wednesday include an interview with the clerk of a convenience store where Martin purchased Skittles and a can of iced tea moments before his confrontation with Zimmerman. The clerk said in the interview, more than a month after Martin was shot, that he didn't remember Martin.

"To be honest, I don't even remember that day," said the clerk, whose name was redacted from the audio interview.

Prosecutors also released hundreds of emails sent to then-Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee whose agency came under fire when Zimmerman wasn't immediately arrested. An email dated more than a week after Martin's death from a resident of the development where Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch leader thanked Lee for attending a recent association meeting. The email's author, Molly Jackson, said in an interview Wednesday that Zimmerman wasn't present at that association meeting.

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In the news that surprises nobody with a brain.
angi_is_altered 20th-Sep-2012 02:17 am (UTC)
"I'm am so shocked!" said NO ONE EVER!
ellenel13 20th-Sep-2012 02:27 am (UTC)
in b4 zimmerman apologists
lovedforaday 20th-Sep-2012 03:49 am (UTC)
BUT GUIZ WE DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY!!11
meran_flash 20th-Sep-2012 03:59 am (UTC)
aka flcadam
margerydaw_s2 21st-Sep-2012 06:50 pm (UTC)
A+
antique_faery 20th-Sep-2012 05:10 am (UTC)
Whatever happened to that weirdo-for-justice, aka anyone who is white, straight, and male? They were all over for being a Zimmerman apologist amongst many things. It's not flcadam or whatever, they had shadow in their name, I think.
doverz 20th-Sep-2012 02:28 am (UTC)
Not shocked at all. But what does this do to help/hurt his testimony??
jettakd 20th-Sep-2012 02:31 am (UTC)
If he ever claimed that they fought for the gun, this proves that's a lie.
sio 20th-Sep-2012 02:34 am (UTC)
pretty sure he has claimed that more than once, along with the bullshit claims that Trayvon did the stalking and Trayvon was on top of him beating him up first, rather than vice versa.
granting 20th-Sep-2012 11:51 am (UTC)
Which he did (claim)
sio 20th-Sep-2012 02:37 am (UTC)
i bet the apologists will claim that the tests were doctored.
zinnia_rose 20th-Sep-2012 02:42 am (UTC)
OMG, what a surprise!!!!!

Except not.
jettakd 20th-Sep-2012 02:43 am (UTC)
This is OT but your username is so pretty. I have a character named Zinnia, I just love the name!
zinnia_rose 20th-Sep-2012 02:57 am (UTC)
Aw, thank you! Zinnia's not my real name but I do love it. I could never actually saddle a child with it, though, so username it is. :p
flcadam 20th-Sep-2012 02:59 am (UTC)
I nearly forgot about this case altogether. I agree that this isn't exactly shocking news. There's no dispute that Zimmerman was the only person handling the gun that night.
paksenarrion2 20th-Sep-2012 03:06 am (UTC)
So is Zimmerman going to claim that Travyon Martin wiped his DNA off the gun before he got shot? Because that is the only thing that is plausible. NOT.

alierakieron 20th-Sep-2012 03:33 am (UTC)
"A delay in Zimmerman's arrest led to nationwide protests."

I love how they make it sound like it just took the cops a while to get around to arresting him, rather than weeks of protest being needed to badger them into doing the right thing.
astridmyrna 20th-Sep-2012 04:04 am (UTC)
Other documents released by prosecutors Wednesday include an interview with the clerk of a convenience store where Martin purchased Skittles and a can of iced tea moments before his confrontation with Zimmerman. The clerk said in the interview, more than a month after Martin was shot, that he didn't remember Martin.

"To be honest, I don't even remember that day," said the clerk, whose name was redacted from the audio interview.


As someone who works in retail, yeah, all the days kind of meld into one and you're not going to remember every face you see, especially if asked about someone a month after you saw them for five minutes. Hopefully this won't be used against Trayvon, but I'm sure it will.
post_position 20th-Sep-2012 04:22 am (UTC)
they'll probs accuse him of stealing the candy or some bullshit.
antique_faery 20th-Sep-2012 05:11 am (UTC)
What gets me about that is that even if he did (a mighty big IF because he didn't), then these assholes would say that he "deserved it." SMH. He was a kid ffs!
effervescent 20th-Sep-2012 04:34 am (UTC)
Don't the tapes show him paying at the counter? I thought I saw something like that.
moonbrightnites 20th-Sep-2012 01:48 pm (UTC)
They did. I remember the apologists pointing to that tape and screeching that Trayvon was huge, scary, etc.
alierakieron 20th-Sep-2012 02:35 pm (UTC)
Because "someone is scary" is a great reason to shoot them.
pleasure_past 20th-Sep-2012 07:14 am (UTC)
Seriously. I mean, it would be one thing if he were an actual witness to Zimmerman shooting Martin, or if Martin had been an every-day customer of his, but "So, do you remember this kid who bought iced tea here a month ago?" is kind of a bullshit question. There is nothing about a teenager buying iced tea that would make the human brain code it as important enough to remember two days later, let alone a full month later.
tabaqui 20th-Sep-2012 11:11 am (UTC)
I don't really get the point of including that in the article. Like you said - retail job, you get tons of people, that fact that Martin wasn't memorable isn't really that big a deal.

And actually maybe is a good thing, since he obviously wasn't out causing trouble or being 'thuggish' in his hoodie, since this guy doesn't even remember him.
redstar826 21st-Sep-2012 01:02 am (UTC)
Yeah, in my experience, you are more likely remember the people who are rude or actually threatening.
antique_faery 20th-Sep-2012 05:01 am (UTC)
Zimmerman is pleading not guilty, claiming self-defense.

abiding 20th-Sep-2012 06:12 am (UTC)
And no one was surprised.
alas_a_llama 20th-Sep-2012 06:33 am (UTC)
What a twist.
mephisto5 20th-Sep-2012 09:15 am (UTC)
Good. The net just keeps getting tighter and tighter.
tabaqui 20th-Sep-2012 11:13 am (UTC)
This makes me think he shot Martin from a distance, since wouldn't there be 'blow back' DNA on the gun if he jammed it into a guy supposedly right on top of him?

And what is the point of the last paragraph about Lee? It doesn't seem to impart any information even remotely relevant.
vanishingbee 20th-Sep-2012 12:36 pm (UTC)
it had already been established that trayvon was shot at this vague ~middle distance that is anywhere from 1 foot away to a few feet, iirc.
tabaqui 20th-Sep-2012 12:52 pm (UTC)
Oh, was it? For some reason i was under the impression that Zimmerman shot him during the so-called 'assault'.
vanishingbee 20th-Sep-2012 12:56 pm (UTC)
well that's still very likely, it just means that there was a small amount of space between them rather than, say, the gun barrel being shoved directly into Trayvon's chest.
shadwing 20th-Sep-2012 12:58 pm (UTC)
There would be powder burns on Martin's clothing/skin if the gun was jammed or really close to him when it was shot.

I don't think they found any such contact evidence, there was residue but not enough to suggest the gun barrel had contact with Martin, suggesting a range farther than contact/point blank as zanzou_chan stated
tabaqui 20th-Sep-2012 05:01 pm (UTC)
I guess i just don't remember the original story well enough at this point. I was sure that Zimmerman had said he shot him point-blank because he was being attacked.

In my mind, the fact that he seems to have shot him from a distance makes his story just that less credible.
vanishingbee 20th-Sep-2012 12:31 pm (UTC)
I was just asking myself yesterday what had been happening with this case. Is there a set trial date yet?
cpsings4him 20th-Sep-2012 02:03 pm (UTC)
Well, isn't that just a shocker. Seem Mr. Zimmerman can't tell the truth about one single solitary thing.
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