U.S. Set to Sponsor Health Insurance
The Obama administration will soon take on a new role as the sponsor of at least two nationwide health insurance plans to be operated under contract with the federal government and offered to consumers in every state.
These multistate plans were included in President Obama’s health care law as a substitute for a pure government-run health insurance program — the public option sought by many liberal Democrats and reviled by Republicans. Supporters of the national plans say they will increase competition in state health insurance markets, many of which are dominated by a handful of companies.
The national plans will compete directly with other private insurers and may have some significant advantages, including a federal seal of approval. Premiums and benefits for the multistate insurance plans will be negotiated by the United States Office of Personnel Management, the agency that arranges health benefits for federal employees.
Walton J. Francis, the author of a consumer guide to health plans for federal employees, said the personnel agency had been “extraordinarily successful” in managing that program, which has more than 200 health plans, including about 20 offered nationwide. The personnel agency has earned high marks for its ability to secure good terms for federal workers through negotiation rather than heavy-handed regulation of insurers.
John J. O’Brien, the director of health care and insurance at the agency, said the new plans would be offered to individuals and small employers through the insurance exchanges being set up in every state under the 2010 health care law.
No one knows how many people will sign up for the government-sponsored plans. In preparing cost estimates, the Obama administration told insurers to assume that each national plan would have 750,000 people enrolled in the first year.
Under the Affordable Care Act, at least one of the nationwide plans must be offered by a nonprofit entity. Insurance experts see an obvious candidate for that role: the Government Employees Health Association, a nonprofit group that covers more than 900,000 federal employees, retirees and dependents, making it the second-largest plan for federal workers, after the Blue Cross and Blue Shield program.
The association, with headquarters near Kansas City, Mo., was founded in 1937 to help railway mail clerks with their medical expenses, and it generally receives high scores in surveys of consumer satisfaction.
Richard G. Miles, the association’s president, expressed interest in offering a multistate plan to the general public through insurance exchanges, but said no decision had been made.
“Our expertise in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program would be useful in the private marketplace,” Mr. Miles said in an interview. “But we are concerned about the underwriting risk in providing insurance to an unknown group of customers.”
To be eligible to participate in the multistate program, insurers must be licensed in every state. The Government Employees Health Association recently bought a company that has the licenses it would need.
The new health care law stipulates that at least one of the multistate plans must provide insurance without coverage of abortion services. If a plan does cover abortions, it must establish separate accounts, one with money for abortion and one for all other medical services.
National insurance plans will be subject to regulation by the federal government, state insurance commissioners and state insurance exchanges. That mix could cause confusion for some consumers who have questions or complaints about their coverage.
The federal standards will pre-empt state rules in at least one respect: the national health plans will automatically be eligible to compete against other private insurers in the new exchanges, regardless of whether they have been certified as meeting the standards of those exchanges.
The administration has promised to “work cooperatively with states.” But it is unclear whether the government-sponsored plans will have to comply with all state laws and consumer protection standards; whether they will have to comply with state benefit mandates; and whether they will have to pay state fees and taxes levied on other insurers to finance exchange operations.
The National Association of Insurance Commissioners, which represents state regulators, expressed alarm at the prospect of a double standard.
“It is absolutely essential that multistate plans compete on a level playing field with other qualified health plans, which are subject to state insurance law,” the association said in a letter to the Office of Personnel Management.
Consumer groups expressed similar concerns. The national insurance plans and other carriers must be subject to identical standards, they say, or consumers cannot make valid comparisons.
“Multistate plans have real potential benefits for consumers,” said Ronald F. Pollack, the executive director of Families USA, a liberal-leaning consumer group. “But there is also potential trouble if the multistate plans are exempted from some consumer protection standards.”
Robert E. Moffit, a senior fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said he worried that “the nationwide health plans, operating under terms and conditions set by the federal government, will become the robust public option that liberals always wanted.”
Insurers are pleading with the Office of Personnel Management to provide more detailed guidance.
“We are concerned that O.P.M. has not yet released rules specifying the requirements for the multistate plan,” said Jay A. Warmuth, a lawyer at UnitedHealth Group, one of the nation’s largest insurers.
Rules for the new program have been under review by the White House for three months, and officials said they would be issued soon.
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OP: So, what do you all think? Can these two national plans be considered the public option or are they going to force the other insurance companies to play on a national level? For those of you outside the US, laws were passed that forbid national plans and, at most, the companies compete with one or two other insurers (which is why insurance is expensive here -- they have a near monopoly.)
The Obama administration will soon take on a new role as the sponsor of at least two nationwide health insurance plans to be operated under contract with the federal government and offered to consumers in every state.
These multistate plans were included in President Obama’s health care law as a substitute for a pure government-run health insurance program — the public option sought by many liberal Democrats and reviled by Republicans. Supporters of the national plans say they will increase competition in state health insurance markets, many of which are dominated by a handful of companies.
The national plans will compete directly with other private insurers and may have some significant advantages, including a federal seal of approval. Premiums and benefits for the multistate insurance plans will be negotiated by the United States Office of Personnel Management, the agency that arranges health benefits for federal employees.
Walton J. Francis, the author of a consumer guide to health plans for federal employees, said the personnel agency had been “extraordinarily successful” in managing that program, which has more than 200 health plans, including about 20 offered nationwide. The personnel agency has earned high marks for its ability to secure good terms for federal workers through negotiation rather than heavy-handed regulation of insurers.
John J. O’Brien, the director of health care and insurance at the agency, said the new plans would be offered to individuals and small employers through the insurance exchanges being set up in every state under the 2010 health care law.
No one knows how many people will sign up for the government-sponsored plans. In preparing cost estimates, the Obama administration told insurers to assume that each national plan would have 750,000 people enrolled in the first year.
Under the Affordable Care Act, at least one of the nationwide plans must be offered by a nonprofit entity. Insurance experts see an obvious candidate for that role: the Government Employees Health Association, a nonprofit group that covers more than 900,000 federal employees, retirees and dependents, making it the second-largest plan for federal workers, after the Blue Cross and Blue Shield program.
The association, with headquarters near Kansas City, Mo., was founded in 1937 to help railway mail clerks with their medical expenses, and it generally receives high scores in surveys of consumer satisfaction.
Richard G. Miles, the association’s president, expressed interest in offering a multistate plan to the general public through insurance exchanges, but said no decision had been made.
“Our expertise in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program would be useful in the private marketplace,” Mr. Miles said in an interview. “But we are concerned about the underwriting risk in providing insurance to an unknown group of customers.”
To be eligible to participate in the multistate program, insurers must be licensed in every state. The Government Employees Health Association recently bought a company that has the licenses it would need.
The new health care law stipulates that at least one of the multistate plans must provide insurance without coverage of abortion services. If a plan does cover abortions, it must establish separate accounts, one with money for abortion and one for all other medical services.
National insurance plans will be subject to regulation by the federal government, state insurance commissioners and state insurance exchanges. That mix could cause confusion for some consumers who have questions or complaints about their coverage.
The federal standards will pre-empt state rules in at least one respect: the national health plans will automatically be eligible to compete against other private insurers in the new exchanges, regardless of whether they have been certified as meeting the standards of those exchanges.
The administration has promised to “work cooperatively with states.” But it is unclear whether the government-sponsored plans will have to comply with all state laws and consumer protection standards; whether they will have to comply with state benefit mandates; and whether they will have to pay state fees and taxes levied on other insurers to finance exchange operations.
The National Association of Insurance Commissioners, which represents state regulators, expressed alarm at the prospect of a double standard.
“It is absolutely essential that multistate plans compete on a level playing field with other qualified health plans, which are subject to state insurance law,” the association said in a letter to the Office of Personnel Management.
Consumer groups expressed similar concerns. The national insurance plans and other carriers must be subject to identical standards, they say, or consumers cannot make valid comparisons.
“Multistate plans have real potential benefits for consumers,” said Ronald F. Pollack, the executive director of Families USA, a liberal-leaning consumer group. “But there is also potential trouble if the multistate plans are exempted from some consumer protection standards.”
Robert E. Moffit, a senior fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said he worried that “the nationwide health plans, operating under terms and conditions set by the federal government, will become the robust public option that liberals always wanted.”
Insurers are pleading with the Office of Personnel Management to provide more detailed guidance.
“We are concerned that O.P.M. has not yet released rules specifying the requirements for the multistate plan,” said Jay A. Warmuth, a lawyer at UnitedHealth Group, one of the nation’s largest insurers.
Rules for the new program have been under review by the White House for three months, and officials said they would be issued soon.
Source
OP: So, what do you all think? Can these two national plans be considered the public option or are they going to force the other insurance companies to play on a national level? For those of you outside the US, laws were passed that forbid national plans and, at most, the companies compete with one or two other insurers (which is why insurance is expensive here -- they have a near monopoly.)
I think it's about as close to public option as we'll get.
ETA: I hope Texas doesn't find a way to screw this up, but I'm sure it will. :-/
Edited at 2012-10-29 11:46 pm (UTC)
they really want me to die of a funny freckle, apparently. because lol preventative care.
Are you talking about at a national level? This seems to be similar to what Mitt Romney said in one of the debates about current limits on the number of insurance companies (he claimed two) limiting the free market, which I didn't understand at the time and am clearly still confused about. Could someone please elaborate on this?
As for Mitten's talking about this, well, that's more of Mitten's BS. It was set up this way via the healthcare industry lobbyists. I'm sure it went something like "if there is competition, patient quality care will go down". Mitten's wouldn't change this.
And I will back you. My family had it while I was growing up. My parents have it as retirees. Best damn thing ever.
As a point of reference, I am using to a system where the provincial government runs a health plan that covers everyone in that province, and the plan is transferrable to any province in the Country. There is no charge for this plan. (Doctors, medical tests, surgeries, hospital stays and more are all included at no charge - we do however have to pay for prescription meds, although those who work and have a good health plan often have these costs defrayed.
We'll probably have to pay the bi-monthly premiums and will have a co-pay. What the gov'n is doing, I think, is trying to force the companies into a free market system. Right now in the US, we can't buy insurance from other states (even if it's from the same company.) There are usually only a handful of insurance companies in state so it's a monopoly. That's the reason HC is so god damn expensive and we get such crappy care. I mean, what are we going to do? Go without? Ha.
A public option (a gov'n healthcare plan) was shot down but I think these two plans will probably work about the same. As in, if the other companies want to stay in business, they'll have to compete with the two national plans. And since those two plans will be national, they'll have more subscribers and will thus be cheaper over all.
But it won't be free for the majority. Later on, the bill has provisions that'll help keep costs down, but those are years in the future. (eg, forcing everyone to buy insurance, limit the amount of profit a company can make, pay in terms of results and not procedures, accepting everyone and charging all the same, and higher taxes on higher paying plans are a couple.)
If they're not free, what is the difference between them and regular health plans?
You'd have to read what they offer to know the difference. Each company covers different things. You don't get everything when you buy insurance from a company. Usually, you have the premium to pay every two weeks, a co-pay, and then it'll go down a list. Ah, like, it'll pay 80% of an ER visit up to a limit (say 10k or something) or it'll pay 75% of the cost of drugs. A lot of companies have yearly and lifetime limits in what they'll pay.
if they have to pay for this federal health insurance, what has changed?
The law will force people to buy insurance from one of the various companies. They did this to forestall the "we can't afford to take on the sick people" and the "healthy people won't buy the insurance" whining.
Doctors, medical tests, surgeries, hospital stays and more are all included at no charge
Ontario, Quebec, and British Columbia don't cover a lot of routine medical tests. It costs about $50 to take an ambulance in Ontario, and it seems like hospital stays cost money unless you're placed in a ward and you're receiving government assistance. Newer hospitals are built without wards, in my experience. Quebec has a mandatory prescription drug insurance plan too.
Edited at 2012-10-30 02:05 pm (UTC)
It's just the prices here make that look like nothing. My last ER visit (without insurance) was about 30 minutes long. I had 5 minutes with the doctor. Got two shots of morphine and a prescript for a pain pill. That was over $3,000. People here die in police cells, after the hospital kicks those that can't pay for treatment out. Others can't get to an ER doc without going through the creditors hospitals have as a buffer.
As someone who has had life saving treatment denied because I had no insurance, I kind of feel strongly about those that want to make an issue over $50. Nothing in life is free. I think most know Canada pays for their insurance (what you hear on the news here is crap.) However, I'll take your $50 ambulance ride in a heartbeat without complaint if it's too much for you. ;P
But... Canadians don't usually sit back and admire our health care, unless we're comparing it to yours. There is always room for improvement. Things like $50 ambulance charges are one flaw in a system that is failing, for example, uninsured Canadians who have chronic conditions. We also have a personnel shortage that is going to explode in the next 10-15 years as many Canadian doctors retire. Health care funding and accessibility have been huge issues in every provincial election I've experienced. Being better than the US isn't good enough.
However, I think that bringing that up in a discussion about the US healthcare system -- by way of pointing out rather trivial payments when compared to our system -- isn't the right place for the discussion. It sounds trite, callus, and a little spoiled to be honest. I'm sorry. What is $50 to an uninsured Canadian with chronic disease is thousands monthly (meds alone can range in the hundreds monthly) without decent care and certainly an early, painful death after losing pretty much all their worldly goods. It is a bit like someone complaining about the rise in food prices to someone who's dying of starvation. Certainly, the rise in prices is a legit problem but trying to point that out to said starving person is rather callus, don't you think?
All I'm saying is that pointing out how you feel Canadian healthcare is failing in a post about US healthcare isn't the right place or way to get your point across. I'm certainly not saying that Canada has no healthcare problems. I think you have a valid claim and I do believe this is a subject that should be discussed. I understand that one hundred percent and agree. I think that healthcare is one of those things people must always be watchful of because it can really get out of hand.
I apologize for jumping on you like this. I'm not trying to attack you or anything.
*Apparently gas stations are "streets" so you're at fault if you open the door into "traffic." Despite the fact that it's a gas station and you should expect people getting out of the car. Also you shouldn't be driving fast enough to take someone's door off. ~The more you know~
LOL. Sounds like what my sisters insurance company did. She was parked legally in parking lot at a big box store and some idiot backed into her car. Even with the store surveillance footage, they still said she was "driving recklessly" and was "100% at fault". She wasn't even in the car. XD
Sure it's not perfect, and nobody is suggesting it is, but we're still incredibly lucky.
That you are! :)
If you quit or lose your insurance then this becomes a pre-existing condition to whatever insurance plan you're trying to get on in the future. In other words, until the further out Obamacare provisions come into law, don't quit your job and/or try as hard as you can to not be laid off or fired.