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I guess nobody told her the Australian PM is a woman and an atheist

10:20 am - 11/08/2012
It must be quite a shock for Julia Gillard to find that President Barack Obama's re-election somehow transformed her into Australia's male, Christian president who "actually supports what he says".

Confused? So was Kristen Neel, a teenager from Georgia, who gained Twitter infamy in Australia in a matter of hours on Wednesday evening.

After news President Obama won four more years, the 18-year-old tweeted: "I'm moving to Australia, because their president is a Christian and actually supports what he says."

She has since deleted her Twitter account, but search tool Topsy showed she was retweeted over 1500 times.

Before she went offline, Ms Neel tried to explain.

"I was referring to the prevous (sic) office that actually had a moral position," she wrote.

Australian political and media observers didn't take long to pounce, sending out numerous tweets.

zanbam 8th-Nov-2012 11:50 am (UTC)
I can't even be offended by that tweet. I'm just mostly baffled.

I'm kind of confused about why so many republicans think Australia is some sort of conservative haven though. I just...like, what have we done to deserve that reputation?

ms_maree 8th-Nov-2012 11:55 am (UTC)
I think it's because we're a white almost-homogenous western country they think we're the same...idk. I mean, we have our issues, but ...they aren't in anyway the same flavour or type as US issues. And our democratic processes are so different.

But I"m baffled that anyone would think that Australia is a bastion of christian funadmentalism. We are one of the most secular countries in the world, christianity is on the decline, I have no clue how anyone would think otherwise.
zanbam 8th-Nov-2012 12:03 pm (UTC)
I knooowww. We've got like, universal health care, gun control, subsidised university, our taxes are hiiiiigh as! I had some old American lady complain to me about Obama being elected again today, while I dispensed medication covered by the government for her (concession price too!). The irony.
krystle_ab 8th-Nov-2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
Actually, I was doing some research the other day on taxes and compared to the rest of the OECD nations we pay pretty low taxes, the US of course is lower, but we are in the top 10.

This really shocked me as I thought that we pay a lot ( just by looking at the difference between my gross and net pay, let alone adding GST on top).
koken23 8th-Nov-2012 12:56 pm (UTC)
Not so homogenous as all that. Australian media is so white it glows in the dark, and doubtless this skews perceptions enormously, but statistically...we've got one of the highest rates of mixed-race marriages in the world, and a HUGE proportion of people not born in Australia.

(I fit into both categories. I'm a first gen migrant, Latina, Australian citizen married to an indigenous man. I, my husband and my son have had a LOT more trouble from a racial perspective living in Britain - as we currently do - than we ever did in Australia)
hammersxstrings 8th-Nov-2012 03:18 pm (UTC)
i need to move to Australia re: christianity lol
mirhanda 8th-Nov-2012 07:03 pm (UTC)
This. I think it's the racism. They figure that a country with a problem with racism has to be just like them.
deathbytamarind 8th-Nov-2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
More ignorant-ass fools who don't know shit about anything outside their own dumb little window. It's so damn sad that the average American can't comprehend what it's like in another country or culture just because they don't take the time to learn a little bit about it. It's an issue very close to my heart cos I'm a global studies major and international relations is my wheelhouse, but damn guys would it kill you to try and learn something that's a little different?
krystle_ab 8th-Nov-2012 12:00 pm (UTC)
I think it depends on what issues you look at. In some ways we are much more liberal than the US and in other ways we would fit right in with the Republicans.

Liberal/Democrat ideals: Healthcare, Public Education, Workers entitlements, etc
Conservative/ Republican ideals: Superannuation, Only a limited seperation of Church and state regarding schools (scripture, chaplains). No gay marriage (yet), talking tough on immigration, etc.

It all depends on what the person is looking at.
zanbam 8th-Nov-2012 12:06 pm (UTC)
Urgh public school chaplins. I rage so hard when I think about them. Waste of tax payers money. Use the time to teach ethics or Australian law or some shit.
lozbabie 8th-Nov-2012 12:34 pm (UTC)
Would they know enough about our country to even know about our superannuation though? (And can you explain to me why our super system would be considered good by Repubs. The employer pays it on top of our wages/salaries)
mirhanda 8th-Nov-2012 07:07 pm (UTC)
That internet censorship thing too. I think the republicans would love something like that. I hope that your government has dropped that idea by now!
merinnan 8th-Nov-2012 12:13 pm (UTC)
Two words: John Howard.
ms_maree 8th-Nov-2012 12:16 pm (UTC)
I'd almost forgotten him. Why did you have to bring back the bad memories?
furrygreen 8th-Nov-2012 12:26 pm (UTC)
I'm kind of confused about why so many republicans think Australia is some sort of conservative haven though. I just...like, what have we done to deserve that reputation?

A lot of Republicans just don't actually know what's going on out there in the world. There's this whole idea here that EVERYONE is doing things the way Republicans here want to do them and it's the Democrats who are trying to screw things up.

I mean, in example, a lot of tea party and conservative Republicans have said they plan on moving to Canada if Obamacare isn't repealed because hell if they're going to pay for their neighbors healthcare. What sense does that make?
the_physicist 8th-Nov-2012 12:35 pm (UTC)
Tell them to move to the Netherlands, Belgium or Germany maybe... , oh, please do! XD I wanna see their faces when they get their tax bills.
cinnamontoast 8th-Nov-2012 12:46 pm (UTC)
I saw someone on my FB feed talking to a Canadian about packing up and moving in with the Canadian because of the election. The Canadian was very gracious about it, and explained that if he wasn't happy with Obama, he would be very unhappy in Canada.

The conservatives don't seem to understand that it's very different when Liberals are unhappy with a conservative turn of events and express a desire to live in a different country. Liberals can move to an array of countries around the world and be quite content as political ex-pats.

Conservatives? Their choices are a bit more limited. Seriously. I can't think of a country where they'd be happier.
skellington1 8th-Nov-2012 04:50 pm (UTC)
Bingo. I've heard/seen them threaten to move to Canada, Australia, Brazil, and in at least one instance somewhere in Western Europe (that socialist pit of sin they're always complaining about).

They just really, really don't know what the world is like outside their own borders.
winniechili 8th-Nov-2012 12:57 pm (UTC)
Cause Australians have a nice long history of racism and oppressing native people too? Idk.
mirhanda 8th-Nov-2012 07:10 pm (UTC)
Heee! They probably think Outback Steakhouse serves Australian food too. LOL!
stormqueen280 8th-Nov-2012 04:41 pm (UTC)
These people are the same kind of morons who say they'll move to Canada now, not knowing that Canada is practically communist by their standards.
the_siobhan 8th-Nov-2012 05:00 pm (UTC)
Well the ones that threatened to move to Canada have already been mocked right out of their pants, and they haven't quite gotten over that little tiff with the Brits. So Australia is the other English-speaking country they've ever heard of?
mercystars 8th-Nov-2012 05:54 pm (UTC)
I'm kind of confused about why so many republicans think Australia is some sort of conservative haven though. I just...like, what have we done to deserve that reputation?

nothing. these are ignorant fools who know nothing about austrailia and probably couldn't find it on a map if it was the only labeled place.
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