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Rove: Obama won 'by suppressing the vote'

4:38 pm - 11/08/2012


GOP strategist Karl Rove went on Fox News today to argue that President Barack Obama "succeeded by suppressing the vote" -- an argument that directly contradicts the conventional wisdom that Romney failed to appeal to non-white and female voters.

Rove argued that Obama won with a smaller popular vote and a smaller margin of victory than in the 2008 election against Sen. John McCain. Instead of expanding voters, Rove argued, Obama "suppressed the vote" by demonizing former Gov. Mitt Romney and encouraging people not to vote.


"President Obama has become the first president in history to win a second term with a smaller percentage of the vote than he did in the first term," Rove said.

"But he won Karl, he won!" Fox News host Megyn Kelly interjected. Kelly also asked Rove how Republicans intended to appeal to minority groups, especially Hispanics, after doing so much to alienate them in 2012. Rove pointed to Hispanic-voter turnout in Texas to argue that there was no fundamental disconnect between his party and Latino voters.

As many pundits and strategists have pointed out, the Obama campaign succeeded in large part because it appealed to -- and registered -- non-white voters, expanding (rather than suppressing) the vote in key battleground states.

In a subsequent segment, Kelly would cite "demographics" and a "racial divide in the voting booth" that "raised questions" about whether the GOP needed to do more to reach Latinos and African-Americans. "Why can't the Republicans do better with people of color?" she asked her guests.

Rove's appearance on Fox News follows the now-infamous moment from election night when he argued with Kelly and co-host Bret Baier over the network's decision to call Ohio for the president.

By Dylan Byers. Posted 11/8/12 2:43 PM EST


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chaya 9th-Nov-2012 03:04 am (UTC)
perfect use of bawww tag
moonshaz 9th-Nov-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
Also butthurt and cry moar.
layweed 9th-Nov-2012 03:04 am (UTC)
of course he did
schexyschteve 9th-Nov-2012 03:07 am (UTC)
Man, I just submitted the HuffPo article on this :(

Republicans are so delusional
mollywobbles867 9th-Nov-2012 03:07 am (UTC)
le sigh That didn't take long.
layweed 9th-Nov-2012 03:15 am (UTC)
Apparently he was flipping out on election night itself, saying that it was completely premature to declare Obama the winner and he did it on Fox News. *rolling my eyes*
klutzy_girl 9th-Nov-2012 03:09 am (UTC)
Wait, he encouraged people not to vote? Because I'm pretty sure it was the other way around.

Ugh.
schexyschteve 9th-Nov-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
"He succeeded by suppressing the vote," Rove said in an interview on Fox News with anchor Megyn Kelly on Thursday afternoon, "by saying to people, 'You may not like who I am and I know you can't bring yourself to vote for me, but I'm going to paint this other guy as simply a rich guy who only cares about himself.'"

Yep, Obama sure suppressed the vote, by telling the truth.

Edited at 2012-11-09 03:13 am (UTC)
bacchae23 9th-Nov-2012 03:11 am (UTC)
I take comfort in the fact he's on the downward spiral. All the money people invested in him went nowhere, and now he's panicking because he's got to explain HOW Romney didn't win. Obviously, it must of been a conspiracy or something...
scriptedending 9th-Nov-2012 03:11 am (UTC)
Karl Rove is trying desperately to avoid being eaten alive by the donors he screwed over, hence blaming every/anything.
browneyedguuurl 9th-Nov-2012 03:33 am (UTC)
I would PAY to see their smackdown. Well deserved, lbr.
shadowwolf1321 9th-Nov-2012 03:11 am (UTC)
I was anticipated this. Ever since election night when he argued with the network. I knew he was going to be butt-hurt and spew bullshit. He'll say anything to get the donors off his back.

Edited at 2012-11-09 03:12 am (UTC)
chimbleysweep 9th-Nov-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
Y'know, the more fallout I read, the less I am convinced that the Republicans will endure a civil war until after 2014 or 2016 (should they lose again). Maybe more moderates will starting voting for Democrats and Independents, but idk if there will be anything dramatic. There SHOULD be, but Fox is demonstrating that they have no shame.

There's so much vindictiveness towards Obama and it's going to remain, and Fox already framed this argument as being about THE BROWN PEOPLE AND WIMMENZ WANTING THINGS and not owning up to what every other network has said--that the Republicans are falling more and more out-of-touch and will not and cannot reach enough people to win anymore.

I'd like to hope that this initial reaction will change, however, especially leading up to 2014. I like to hope that they have nothing to grasp onto. I'd like to hope that Karl Rove and Limbaugh and Trump will be called out and dismissed and dismantled for their lies and racism and stupidity. But I don't know.
purplerains 9th-Nov-2012 03:19 am (UTC)
I agree! And I really don't like how, across the board, the networks frame this as "demographics!!!"

It's not as if the democrats just take out a wand and wave it in the faces of non-white male voters, or like Fox would claim give out food stamps, abortions and citizenship door to door, it's because their policies are more beneficial to minority groups. Why can't they frame it that way?

The republicans cannot reach these groups because their policy outright DENIES the rights of minority groups. Why exit polls don't report democrats get 100% women, youth, latino, black, asian votes is amazing to me.
twirlgrrl 9th-Nov-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
lol wut is right.
sweetnessarose 9th-Nov-2012 03:14 am (UTC)
You know what, at first I thought it was funny how they were just bawwing all over the place, but this isn't even funny anymore. Really, just shut up.
nutmegdealer 9th-Nov-2012 03:19 am (UTC)
white republicans are taking this so damn personally. the world isn't gonna stop turning because the president's still black.
purplerains 9th-Nov-2012 03:22 am (UTC)
This was their life's work for 4 years and they failed miserably. This is meltdown mode.
blackjedii 9th-Nov-2012 03:21 am (UTC)
I will quoe Rachel from last night or so:

Karl Rove is hiding from any phone calls with a Nevada area code.
browneyedguuurl 9th-Nov-2012 03:30 am (UTC)
Is Karl Rove fucking kidding me?!? Talking about voter suppression?!? KARL ROVE?!? FUCK HIM!
kitanabychoice 9th-Nov-2012 03:30 am (UTC)
Project harder! They can't see you on the moon yet!
window_girl 9th-Nov-2012 03:24 pm (UTC)
This made me giggle.
keeperofthekeys 9th-Nov-2012 03:40 am (UTC)
I see his ODS is just getting worse and worse each year...
lovedforaday 9th-Nov-2012 03:44 am (UTC)
Rove argued, Obama "suppressed the vote" by demonizing former Gov. Mitt Romney and encouraging people not to vote.

I can't believe that this garbage about Mitt Romney being a nice, sensitive, caring and compassionate guy who Obama lied about and defamed is an actual talking point. Limbaugh said it on his program yesterday, O'Reilly said it last night, and now Rove is saying it. Even if Obama lied about Romney, which he didn't, he beat Rove, Limbaugh and the GOP at their own dirty-ass game.

n a subsequent segment, Kelly would cite "demographics" and a "racial divide in the voting booth" that "raised questions" about whether the GOP needed to do more to reach Latinos and African-Americans.

They're already saying they have to convince Latinos, white women and young white people that an entitlement society is bad and only leads to ruin and tyranny. I have a bad feeling the GOP is yet again going to scapegoat black folks.
ladypolitik 9th-Nov-2012 03:48 am (UTC)
The only thing that made having to listen to that tolerable was Megyn Kelly being all "...Yeeeeah but he won tho, bb, he won. Let it go, hun'." Even Megyn Kelly is sick of that shit. I cackled.
bmh4d0k3n 9th-Nov-2012 03:58 am (UTC)
Just for you:

schexyschteve 9th-Nov-2012 04:02 am (UTC)
I saw that live yesterday, and god, it was a thing of beauty
dark_puck 9th-Nov-2012 04:03 am (UTC)
The GOP is melting down. They put people in the House, in the Senate, on the promise of making Obama a one-term president.

They poured millions, if not billions, of dollars into the Romney campaign.

And they failed.

Oh, how they failed.

So what can they do now? What will they do now?
oceandezignz 9th-Nov-2012 05:58 am (UTC)
They poured millions, if not billions, of dollars into the Romney campaign.

They poured over 300 billion into GOP campaigns across the map! I cannot find the infographic I saw on tumblr to link it and am maaaad about that.

But they poured so much money in and lost so much. What ground they did win (or hold), cost them nearly 40 mil a win.

If the GOP was a legitimate country at war, they just got boned by the nation they were going after.
tabaqui 9th-Nov-2012 04:14 am (UTC)
It's actually kind of scary, how freaking batshit this is.
jessyryan 9th-Nov-2012 04:20 am (UTC)
He's just trying to save his ass after he blew 300 mill for nothing. Fucking loser.
mercystars 9th-Nov-2012 05:24 am (UTC)
wow, these delusional fucks just cannot get it thru their thick skulls that they lost the election BECAUSE OF THEIR PLATFORM
sunktheglow 9th-Nov-2012 05:30 am (UTC)
Wasn't this the highest voter turnout ever, though? CRY MORE, KARL ROVE.
oceandezignz 9th-Nov-2012 06:24 am (UTC)
Youth, Black and Latino vote went UP! But...

I'm sitting here wondering if the election would have went in the GOP's favor if they did not try so hard to FIX the election with these stupid Voter ID laws, fucking with voter registration, jacking up the machines and the polls... the news media ate this up. Social media ate it up harder. It probably got some people curious. So guess what? THEY ALL WENT OUT TO VOTE to see if they could catch shenanigans and the like.

Like they literally blew enough money to put a gazillion kids through college on a free ride, to cheat, lie, make special snowflake rules, etc... and lost.

But this is one humble pie the GOP won't eat.
nicosian 9th-Nov-2012 05:40 am (UTC)
they will get their chance again in a few years.

Of course it remains to be seen whether they take a good honest look at their actions,platform, stances and how they locked themselves up with Fox and Fundies, or if they realize that's a bad strategy, and start backing into moderation again.

I suspect they'll simply wail like its the end times, and cry, and weep and not take this for what it was, a lesson in "you don't always get what you want."

The crying is getting embarassing, entitled folk. Grow up. Put the big pants on, and deal with the loss. I really want to also believe this is the death throes of 50's white picket fence idealism of church on sundays, womens in their place and those minorities and gays didn't get all...well, vocal. When the manly white man was king. Change is hard for them.
hinoema 9th-Nov-2012 06:36 am (UTC)
Of course it remains to be seen whether they take a good honest look at their actions,platform, stances and how they locked themselves up with Fox and Fundies, or if they realize that's a bad strategy, and start backing into moderation again.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
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