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Rove: Obama won 'by suppressing the vote'

4:38 pm - 11/08/2012


GOP strategist Karl Rove went on Fox News today to argue that President Barack Obama "succeeded by suppressing the vote" -- an argument that directly contradicts the conventional wisdom that Romney failed to appeal to non-white and female voters.

Rove argued that Obama won with a smaller popular vote and a smaller margin of victory than in the 2008 election against Sen. John McCain. Instead of expanding voters, Rove argued, Obama "suppressed the vote" by demonizing former Gov. Mitt Romney and encouraging people not to vote.


"President Obama has become the first president in history to win a second term with a smaller percentage of the vote than he did in the first term," Rove said.

"But he won Karl, he won!" Fox News host Megyn Kelly interjected. Kelly also asked Rove how Republicans intended to appeal to minority groups, especially Hispanics, after doing so much to alienate them in 2012. Rove pointed to Hispanic-voter turnout in Texas to argue that there was no fundamental disconnect between his party and Latino voters.

As many pundits and strategists have pointed out, the Obama campaign succeeded in large part because it appealed to -- and registered -- non-white voters, expanding (rather than suppressing) the vote in key battleground states.

In a subsequent segment, Kelly would cite "demographics" and a "racial divide in the voting booth" that "raised questions" about whether the GOP needed to do more to reach Latinos and African-Americans. "Why can't the Republicans do better with people of color?" she asked her guests.

Rove's appearance on Fox News follows the now-infamous moment from election night when he argued with Kelly and co-host Bret Baier over the network's decision to call Ohio for the president.

By Dylan Byers. Posted 11/8/12 2:43 PM EST


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chimbleysweep 9th-Nov-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
Y'know, the more fallout I read, the less I am convinced that the Republicans will endure a civil war until after 2014 or 2016 (should they lose again). Maybe more moderates will starting voting for Democrats and Independents, but idk if there will be anything dramatic. There SHOULD be, but Fox is demonstrating that they have no shame.

There's so much vindictiveness towards Obama and it's going to remain, and Fox already framed this argument as being about THE BROWN PEOPLE AND WIMMENZ WANTING THINGS and not owning up to what every other network has said--that the Republicans are falling more and more out-of-touch and will not and cannot reach enough people to win anymore.

I'd like to hope that this initial reaction will change, however, especially leading up to 2014. I like to hope that they have nothing to grasp onto. I'd like to hope that Karl Rove and Limbaugh and Trump will be called out and dismissed and dismantled for their lies and racism and stupidity. But I don't know.
purplerains 9th-Nov-2012 03:19 am (UTC)
I agree! And I really don't like how, across the board, the networks frame this as "demographics!!!"

It's not as if the democrats just take out a wand and wave it in the faces of non-white male voters, or like Fox would claim give out food stamps, abortions and citizenship door to door, it's because their policies are more beneficial to minority groups. Why can't they frame it that way?

The republicans cannot reach these groups because their policy outright DENIES the rights of minority groups. Why exit polls don't report democrats get 100% women, youth, latino, black, asian votes is amazing to me.
chimbleysweep 9th-Nov-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
Exactly. Very few people are explaining why these demographics favor the Democrats right now. They're just leaving it at demographics and that's it. This leaves it open to HORRIBLE classist and racist interpretation which will probably get infinitely worse.
cyranothe2nd 9th-Nov-2012 06:03 am (UTC)
This morning the Republicans were talking about how they needed to "rebrand" and "tone down" their racist rhetoric. As opposed to, you know, NOT BEING SO FUCKING RACIST.
thenakedcat 9th-Nov-2012 03:12 pm (UTC)
Thiiiiiiiis.

One of NPR's commentators pointed out that, although Republicans made a lot of noise about the growing importance of the Hispanic vote in places like Colorado, they failed to do anything that might be reasonably construed as courting that vote--like coming up with a viable path-to-citizenship immigration reform package. Instead, they pandered heavily to teabagger racism and nativism, especially during the primary.

Obama may not have been able to get comprehensive immigration reform passed, but he did make an effort to show that he understood the concerns of Hispanic communities--by appointing Latin@s to high-profile positions (like Sotomayor), issuing the executive order to stop deporting people who would qualify under the Dream Act, suing Arizona over SB 1070, making sure that his campaign had Spanish-language competency, etc. And voters responded to that by turning out at the polls and voting heavily in his favor.
blackjedii 9th-Nov-2012 03:20 am (UTC)
See I was hoping this after 2008's mandate.

Truthfully I think the super-rich white dudes will just do something incredibly horrible.
chimbleysweep 9th-Nov-2012 03:26 am (UTC)
That's my feeling. These guys are not going to give an inch. They've never had to before now.

Sure, they might bring out some ~brown people~ to nominate, but will their policies actually show any progress? Ummm doubtful.
schexyschteve 9th-Nov-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
I think it'll take FOREVER for Republicans to completely dismantle. When things like this happen, they don't read it as "We're really out of touch. What can we do to appeal to a broader audience?" They look at the progressiveness, and go, "We're not conservative enough! FARTHER TO THE RIGHT, EVERYONE!"

There's just so much pure hatred from the right that I don't know if they'll ever wake up and realize how out of touch they are.
chimbleysweep 9th-Nov-2012 03:28 am (UTC)
So damn true. They're not introspective. They're reactionary extremists and if ever we needed a better example of it... well. There's Karl Rove.
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