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For the Radical Right, Obama Victory Brings Fury and Fear

1:27 pm - 11/10/2012
by Mark Potok on November 7, 2012

When the word came in last night that Barack Obama and the Democrats had won national elections in a decisive victory, millions of Americans went to bed, satisfied that even if their candidate didn’t win, democracy had survived. The results made it clear that this election had in no way been stolen.

But not so at Ole Miss, which last month marked the 50th anniversary of deadly segregationist riots. Shortly after midnight, several hundred mostly white students protested furiously, reportedly yelling anti-black racial slurs and throwing rocks at passing cars. An Obama/Biden campaign sign was burned before campus police broke up the crowd in Oxford. There were apparently no arrests or injuries.

The reaction to the re-election of our first black president from the radical right — and that seemed clearly to include some University of Mississippi students — ranged from sputtering rage and name-calling to calls for a new Southern secession, mass emigration to Europe, or even the break-up of the United States. There was one thing large numbers seemed clearly to agree on: The changing racial demographics of our country, expected to lose its white majority by 2050, was key to the result.

“Welcome to a truly white minority world,” wrote one commenter on Stormfront, the world’s largest white supremacist Web forum, which is run by a former Alabama Klan leader. “The future is now. There is no denying this. The sun has set on humanity’s greatest era: 1500-2000. … [T]he only way to survive this war of annihilation is separatism. … [W]e have to choose regions or states.”

“We have truly fallen under God’s judgment,” wrote another. “You will never see another white man occupy the White House again.” Responded a third: “If you can immigrate to Europe you start making plans. … America will become largely a non-white population that is poverty stricken and all those government programs will soon disappear. It will happen. No more Medicare and no more social security.”

The loss of a white majority in the United States has helped drive a truly explosive growth of the radical right in the last three years, and that now seems likely to accelerate. Hate groups in recent years have risen to more than 1,000, and the number of antigovernment “Patriot” groups has shot up from just 149 in 2008 to 1,274, according to research by the Southern Poverty Law Center. For months now, groups on the radical right have increasingly fretted about a possible Obama victory. Now that that has occurred, the radical right may grow more dangerous still.

On Stormfront, given this reality, it wasn’t surprising to find talk of violence in the wake of the election. “I live in a liberal area so many of my ‘friends’ are shouting for joy,” lamented one poster at the racist site. “I don’t actually have many real friends and the ones I do have are scared and talking about arming themselves.”

Over at the conspiracist website Infowars, some reactions weren’t that different. “Now is the time to leave this country,” wrote a commenter using the name munglejonkeys. “[T]hey have brought about a communist takeover without firing a single shot. America will resemble Zimbabwe (economically) in a few years and there will be a huge shift in the welfare-dependent knob-slobs who thought that selling their souls for an Obama-phone was such a great deal. … All because white people didn’t oppose political correctness 35 years ago.”

Remarkably, similar sentiments seemed to crop up in what is taken as the political “mainstream.” Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly, fearing an Obama victory, said last night: “The white establishment is now the minority. And the voters, many of them, feel that the economic system is stacked against them and they want stuff.” He added: “The demographics are changing. It’s not a traditional America any more.”

Donald Trump, the billionaire unrepentant “birther,” didn’t mention race. But he tweeted last night that the election was “a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!” He went on to characterize the Electoral College, which gave the race to Republican George W. Bush in 2000, as a “disaster for democracy.”

The anti-gay right reacted with fury, as well. In a long thread on the passage of same-sex marriage referenda at the antigovernment site Free Republic, commenters were apoplectic — and frightened. “Get ready for God’s wrath,” wrote one. “The people are choosing Satan’s finest.” “Fudgies win again,” wrote another. “Incidents of HIV [to] rise again.” And a third: “America is going to pay for its unbelief and its love of abortion and homosexuals. … And IT DESERVES IT.”

“SICK SICK SICK,” wrote still another. “What a filthy night this election is.”

In fact, as pointed out on CNN’s religion blog, the whole election was a “nightmare scenario” for conservative Christian leaders. Noting the approval of two same-sex marriage referenda, the re-election of a president who supported such marriages, and the rejection of hard-line anti-abortion candidates, CNN said the election results “seemed to mark a dramatic rejection of the Christian right’s agenda.”

“The historic nature of these results are hard to overstate,” Robert P. Jones, a pollster who specializes in politics and religion, told CNN regarding the referenda in Maine and Maryland. “Given the strong support of younger Americans for same-sex marriage, it’s unlikely this issue will reappear as a major national wedge issue.”

Non-Islamic domestic terrorism in the United States shot up in the wake of President Obama’s first election in 2008, spurred by fury over the “socialist” president and the racial change that he represents in the American population. Now, given the reaction from the radical right to last night’s election results, that seems likely to continue — or to get even worse, as racists and right-wing radicals seethe.

Joseph Farah, who runs the conspiracist “news” site WorldNetDaily, sounded typical. “I think things are going to get very tough in America over the next four years,” he said. “I expect more division, more stratification, maybe even the disintegration of the constitutional republic that was the envy of the world for so long. It’s time to hunker down. It’s time to prepare for the worst — economically, militarily, socially, culturally. The revolutionaries have won a major political victory. The America haters are running the country for another four years.

“That is not a pretty prospect.”

“OK, now we have all seen the writing on the wall, AGAIN!” wrote one person in a Stormfront post that seemed to capture the general feeling of helpless rage. “The question is, What are we going to do about it? What is our plan?”

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/11/07/for-the-radical-right-obama-victory-brings-fury-and-fear/ <-- In-case the first link doesn't work.
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layweed 11th-Nov-2012 05:29 am (UTC)
Wish we could put these fuckers on an iceberg and watch it float into the ocean and melt, drowning them all. Assholes. Shark food is too good for them.
koshkabegemot 11th-Nov-2012 11:25 pm (UTC)

Also, lol @ them suggesting a mass immigration to Europe. LOLOLLLLLLLLLLLL
astridmyrna 11th-Nov-2012 05:31 am (UTC)
I am legitimately worried about Obama and his family.
layweed 11th-Nov-2012 05:34 am (UTC)
Me too, but I'm more worried about all the ordinary citizens who don't have Secret Service protection and who encounter these racists on a daily basis.
vampslayer04 11th-Nov-2012 05:46 am (UTC)
These fuckers are why my roommates and I joke about founding our own country. We'd have refugee centers at the border for people escaping from families and communities like these.
moonshaz 11th-Nov-2012 06:02 am (UTC)
If only all these whiny assholes really WOULD leave this country. *sigh* It would be a huge improvement. Too bad it'll never actually happen.
cyranothe2nd 11th-Nov-2012 05:13 pm (UTC)
Where would they go? "socialist" Europe? LOL, I'd like to see that...
effervescent 11th-Nov-2012 06:04 am (UTC)
When I read stuff like this, sometimes I can't help but shake my head. To live with such hate and fear, all the time... I don't understand it.
mickeym 11th-Nov-2012 07:14 am (UTC)
This. I just cannot fathom it. To be so afraid, and to hate so much, all the time -- it's just mind-boggling.
beoweasel 11th-Nov-2012 06:06 am (UTC)
The white establishment is now the minority...

Yes, even though we made up seventy-percent of the vote, we're a fucking minority. Get the fuck over yourselves, despite what you think, Republicans are not the representation of white people EVERYWHERE. Go kiss my fat, flabby, and pasty white ass.
kyra_neko_rei 11th-Nov-2012 06:57 pm (UTC)
It's always weird to hear someone whine about being in the minority. If being in the minority is inherently such a bad thing, there's something wrong with the system already, even when they weren't a minority.
mskye 11th-Nov-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
The desperation of these hateful people would be funny if it wasn't so scary. I hope we won't have another Loughner on our hands.
hinoema 11th-Nov-2012 06:55 am (UTC)
Now is the time to leave this country.

karma_aster 11th-Nov-2012 07:00 am (UTC)
I know. I'd be thrilled to help them pack if they just promise to GO.
karma_aster 11th-Nov-2012 06:59 am (UTC)
What are you going to do? I'd imagine accepting your own irrelevance, stfu, and gtfo is NOT on the table for you lot?

Personally, this little white girl from Georgia is overjoyed to see these kinds of sweeping societal changes and I really think things ARE going to be better in the long run for everyone. But, in the meantime, hold tight to your ideals, and don't let these archaic wackjobs win.
romp 11th-Nov-2012 07:14 am (UTC)
bushy_brow 11th-Nov-2012 08:36 am (UTC)
jadehunter 11th-Nov-2012 07:20 am (UTC)
calls for a new Southern secession

History is not your strong point, I see.

mass emigration to Europe

Neither is basic knowledge about the world.

or even the break-up of the United States.

Add a sad lack of logic to that as well.

These people, JFC. Does anyone have a gif of Joyce doing that epic eyeroll in Band Candy when Snyder is trying to get with her? Insert that here.

The white establishment is now the minority.

Oh geez, this is exactly what my boss said to me today. And a few of the customers. Plus they went on and on all day about how it would've been better if Romney had won because the economy is so important but young people and minorities don't care about the economy because they have no money in the first place blah blah fucking white privilege bullshit blah blah. Like, yeah, it makes no difference to you who's President, Mr. Well Off White Man, but it makes a hell of a lot of difference to me as a POC woman who also happens to be an immigrant, and to others as well.
bestdaywelived 11th-Nov-2012 03:45 pm (UTC)
I HATE that attitude. As a young person, I voted Obama because he and I share a vision of what the United States should be .... and it's certainly not allowing the rich to get richer while the poor starve.

The United States used to have upward mobility. You used to be able to transcend your social class. Not anymore.
flake_sake 11th-Nov-2012 07:22 am (UTC)
Ahahahahahahhahahahah!!! Have they ever been to Europe? We are way more socialist, then Obama will ever be.
Where is my tiny tiny violin when I need it?
cpsings4him 11th-Nov-2012 05:27 pm (UTC)
Pfft!  Silly,  they aren't planning on going and leaving things all socialist and stuff as it currently is. They will,  of course,  establish their OWN government and policies to create their perfect vision of conservative fundamentalist utopia. You know... Like in the olden days before every in got silly and imperialism was frowned upon. </p>


zinnia_rose 11th-Nov-2012 07:31 am (UTC)
"We are not a democracy!"

nesmith 11th-Nov-2012 07:32 am (UTC)
Ah, the sturm und drang is in full swing, I see.

I think it was just last night as I was catching up on the Daily Show from Nov. 7th that my rage began to transmute into this wonderful bemusement, because a lot of this really strikes me as the hyper-pitched squealing that happens at the far end of the denial scope, when a group finally begins to realize that the world really isn't going they way they want it to, and they get louder and more desperate and twisted as if that could turn back the inevitable tide. I think in the end some of them may actually realize that the world is not what they see on Fox News, and a lot of them won't, but it won't stop change and progress no matter how much they howl.
tiddlywinks103 11th-Nov-2012 07:43 am (UTC)
maybe even the disintegration of the constitutional republic that was the envy of the world for so long.

Seriously, their problem start with the mass delusion that the world is up our ass this much, or that they think we are OMGZ, TEH BESTEST.

Other than that, this article is sufficiently terrifying, and makes me hate white people. Such fucking hateful drama queens, who can't stand a world not built for, by, and around them. Then they wrap it up in 'patriotism' and lynch people. Fucking hate.
korppi_ravn 11th-Nov-2012 01:49 pm (UTC)
Came here to fucking say this. I laugh thinking about their delusion.
zanbam 11th-Nov-2012 08:44 am (UTC)
I sometimes wish these anti government groups would lose their collective sanity one day and try and start something and 'take back' America with force. Then you could cut them off of everything the government provides them, barracade them inside where ever they are and watch them eat each other alive. It is, of course, cruel and impractical, but sometimes I think about it.
cindyanne1 11th-Nov-2012 11:28 am (UTC)
That would be the greatest reality TV show EVER.

Oh wait... did I say that out loud? >_>
blackjedii 11th-Nov-2012 09:32 am (UTC)
See this is why I kind of think Rupert Murdoch and his ilk were dancing around Tuesday night. Woo hoo, the Democrats won and all but...

Think how much more money Fox News is making since they have TEH DEVIL in office. Think how much more the whole hate+racist engine can run with a second term.

It's going to be ugly, y'all.
fuck_of_nature 11th-Nov-2012 02:33 pm (UTC)
Yeah, and probably Obama getting elected polarized the country so much more.

I'm not sure if it would have been the same if Romney got elected.

little_rachael 11th-Nov-2012 10:46 am (UTC)
I'll just repeat what I said on my tumblr:

Fine, go hide in your bunkers until President Obama's term is over. It will be doing us all a favor.
shortsweetcynic 11th-Nov-2012 02:28 pm (UTC)
i approve.
mokie 11th-Nov-2012 12:46 pm (UTC)
“America is going to pay for its unbelief and its love of abortion and homosexuals. … And IT DESERVES IT.”

Disturbing how so much of the wailing and gnashing of teeth sounds like Westboro talking points.
korppi_ravn 11th-Nov-2012 01:50 pm (UTC)
Lol as if they'd like Europe better.
wrestlingdog 11th-Nov-2012 02:30 pm (UTC)
IKR? Have they been listening to themselves at all over the last decade, whining about those ~eeevil~ European socialists?
masakochan 11th-Nov-2012 03:05 pm (UTC)
“Get ready for God’s wrath,” wrote one. “The people are choosing Satan’s finest.” “Fudgies win again,” wrote another. “Incidents of HIV [to] rise again.” And a third: “America is going to pay for its unbelief and its love of abortion and homosexuals. … And IT DESERVES IT.”

Ugh- Free Republic is one of, if not THE, favorite website/message board that my dad likes to hang out at. I mean, it's not surprising to see the site's reactions were like that (and talked about), but IDEK- it just makes me even more paranoid about coming out, eventually, to my family. (I've got some relatives who believe in ex-gay "therapy", and who honestly think that this country is going down the drain because of things like teaching kids to be accepting of LGBT*Q people.)
bestdaywelived 11th-Nov-2012 03:48 pm (UTC)
I grew up with a religious family like that. I'm really, really sorry that your relatives suck so hard; even having an evangelical family, my relatives are surprisingly not THAT homophobic (many support gay marriage, etc.).

My church growing up said that AIDs was pushed on this country because God was angry at the homosexuals, and that innocents would have to die, too, because of God's wrath at their sin. (In response to my question about Ryan White being a "homosexual".)
tigerdreams 11th-Nov-2012 03:38 pm (UTC)
"Joseph Farah, who runs the conspiracist “news” site WorldNetDaily"

First legitimate use of "scare quotes" I've seen in a long time.
poetic_pixie_13 11th-Nov-2012 04:01 pm (UTC)
“You will never see another white man occupy the White House again.”


“I don’t actually have many real friends and the ones I do have are scared and talking about arming themselves.”

Two things. One, Democrats and liberals have guns too. Two, your spoiled, privileged asses aren't the children of the American Revolution. Y'all are just the scared members of the ruling class that revolutionaries have fought against for millennia.

“Get ready for God’s wrath,” wrote one. “The people are choosing Satan’s finest.” “Fudgies win again,” wrote another. “Incidents of HIV [to] rise again.” And a third: “America is going to pay for its unbelief and its love of abortion and homosexuals. … And IT DESERVES IT.”

Oh, honeylambs. It's like they're grouchy toddlers who aren't allowed an extra cookie. I think it's nap time.

“The demographics are changing. It’s not a traditional America any more.”

Oh, no, bb. This is still 'traditional' America. Those pesky women and poc (including Native Americans who have more claim to this land and its traditions than your pasty ass ever will) and queer and trans folks and the poor and folks with disabilities andandand have always been part of America. It's just now, after 200 some years, all of America is starting to have a voice in the political process. And here's the thing about the oppressed, Billo, we have long, detailed memories.

Edited at 2012-11-11 04:02 pm (UTC)
tabaqui 11th-Nov-2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
THIS this this. What you said.
beoweasel 11th-Nov-2012 04:45 pm (UTC)
“You will never see another white man occupy the White House again.”

Really. REALLY.

Even though white people are still majority population in this country, even though white MEN still have the run of both the House AND the Senate, and EVEN THOUGH A WHITE GUY IS THE FUCKING VICE PRESIDENT, the age of White Dudes in the White House is now officially over.

I just can't wrap my head around this kind of thinking.
cyranothe2nd Boo-hoo motherfuckers11th-Nov-2012 05:10 pm (UTC)
“You will never see another white man occupy the White House again.”

John uh-huh
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