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After Election Losses, Media Agree That Fox News Has Damaged The GOP

3:49 pm - 11/11/2012
After Election Losses, Media Agree That Fox News Has Damaged The GOP

The end of the 2012 election has raised questions about media's impact on results. As candidates and their campaigns celebrate wins or mourn defeats, observers in the media argue that Fox News' political activism has damaged the Republican Party in light of its losses.

Over the past four years, Fox News employees have aggressively campaigned for Republican candidates. A Media Matters report found that leading up to the 2012 presidential election, over 32 Fox hosts and contributors campaigned for GOP candidates in more than 300 instances, nationally and in more than 40 states. Among them was Fox contributor Karl Rove, whose American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS promised to spend $300 million on ads for conservative candidates.

The same report revealed that five Fox figures advised Mitt Romney's campaign, and nine -- including John Bolton and Mike Huckabee -- "played key roles" at Romney events.

During the 2010 election cycle, more than 30 Fox hosts and contributors endorsed, fundraised, or campaigned for Republican candidates. According to a Media Matters report, those candidates often highlighted the support they had received from Fox.

Romney, the largest beneficiary of Fox News campaigning, was often advised by Fox's on-air personalities about what he should do. For instance, Bill O'Reilly said that Romney should "keep pounding" the message that Obama "doesn't like this capitalistic system." Fox & Friends co-host Gretchen Carlson said that Romney could create a "pretty compelling campaign ad" by juxtaposing Obama saying he had three years to fix the economy with him saying he needs another four years.

Fox also aggressively counseled elected Republicans not to cooperate with Democrats. Sean Hannity, for example, told Congressman Paul Ryan in April 2011 not to vote to raise the debt ceiling, and the co-hosts of Fox & Friends urged House Republicans to repeal light bulb efficiency standards.

In light of the Republican Party's 2012 election losses, many in the media have argued that this political activism by Fox has hurt rather than helped the GOP.

The American Prospect's Paul Waldman wrote that Fox and other conservative media are effective at "whipping up stories out of nothing and forcing the mainstream media to pay attention, capable of keeping their troops in line and bucking up their morale, capable of quickly disseminating messages far and wide, creating new stars and enforcing discipline." But, he added, the success of this misinformation resulted in the "single most damaging moment for Mitt Romney in this election, the 47 percent tape." Waldman further wrote that Fox and other conservative media may be "the right's Achilles' Heel."

Salon's Alex Pareene suggested that Fox "knows it's constantly lying to its audience" and that it discovered "constant lying isn't [a] consistently effective electoral strategy." Conor Friedersdorf of The Atlantic likewise argued that misinformation from Fox and conservative media cost Romney the election and wrote that "right-leaning outlets like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh's show are far more intellectually closed than CNN or public radio. If you're a rank-and-file conservative, you're probably ready to acknowledge that ideologically friendly media didn't accurately inform you about Election 2012."

And The Telegraph's Dan Hodes, in a column headlined "Fox News is killing the Republican party," even posited that "Fox News, widely perceived to be one of the Republican party's greatest assets, has actually become a liability to it":

[W]atching Rove vainly raging against the dying of the light cemented for me a view that's been forming throughout this campaign. Fox News, widely perceived to be one of the Republican party's greatest assets, has actually become a liability to it.

To describe Fox as a polarising broadcaster would be to give understatement a manly bear-hug. For Democrats and the liberal Left it is effectively an extension of the GOP press office, prosecuting a vicious and biased campaign against their candidates and values. For Republicans and the Right it provides a vital balance against the liberal prejudices of the Main Stream Media. But whatever the perceptions, Fox -- to my mind -- proved to be an albatross around the neck of Mitt Romney throughout this campaign.
pinksta_r 12th-Nov-2012 12:19 am (UTC)
Fox news is nothing less than shameful. The GOP needs no help in looking racist, homophobic, sexist, and just plain hateful but faux pushes it over.

I'd rather be stuck in a room with my eyes stuck open watching a Kardashian marathon.
layweed 12th-Nov-2012 12:30 am (UTC)
HAY U.
pinksta_r 12th-Nov-2012 12:47 am (UTC)
I'm here. I can't promise how long. lol
fiddlingfrog 13th-Nov-2012 12:44 am (UTC)
A friend of my wife's once asked an anchorman for the local Fox affiliate if they "have to skew the local news too".
bushy_brow 13th-Nov-2012 02:30 am (UTC)
LOL! I love it. :-D
layweed 12th-Nov-2012 12:30 am (UTC)
too bad it won't stop them from continuing to be a fucking rightwing nutjob faux news outlet.

For starters, as much as I hate FauxNews, they aren't even the problem. They cater to a market of rightwing nutjobs who refuse to get their news anywhere else and revel in the sort of conservative circle jerk that they get from FoxNews and Rush Limbaugh and people like that. As long as there's a market, they'll continue to exist.

Then again, if that causes the GOP to edge closer to the cliff of irrelevence, BROADCAST ON!

eta: then again, FoxNews and their rabid watchbase is something of a chicken and egg problem. sigh.

Edited at 2012-11-12 12:40 am (UTC)
dorknessrising 12th-Nov-2012 12:47 am (UTC)
Yep. It's kind of sad since I am a registered Republican who has been watching the party's case of dementia steadily worsen over the last two decades.

The problem with Fox is not that they're a propaganda channel; MSNBC has a very heavy lean to the left. The problem with Fox is that they refuse to acknowledge their bias, and they lack the journalistic integrity to be a source of good information despite having an obvious ideological spin.

The reason it grinds my gears when people refer to MSNBC as the "Fox of the Left" is because unlike Fox erroneouslv billing itself as "fair and balanced", MSNBC makes absolutely no pretenses that they have a left-wing slant ("lean forward"). They admit it openly and honestly. And when MSNBC does end up reporting a piece of misinformation, they make retractions on-air as soon as they have the corrected version and apologize for getting it wrong.

When Fox reports misinformation, they do one of three things:

1) "correct" the report with even more misinformation
2) report the correct information and pretend the inaccurate report never happened
3) ignore the correct information and keep repeating the same lies

TL;DR At least MSNBC has the guts to admit they're biased and make mistakes.

Edited at 2012-11-12 12:48 am (UTC)
tabaqui 12th-Nov-2012 01:03 am (UTC)
Exactly. I don't pretend Rachel Maddow isn't left-leaning, but she reports *facts*, not made up bullshite and hype, and she *always* corrects any mistakes on air.

And if she's got a right-wing guest on her show? She never shouts them down or talks over them, she is always respectful. Though she won't let them lie.
dorknessrising 12th-Nov-2012 01:20 am (UTC)
Yep. I don't think anyone who watches MSNBC pretends they're unbiased, either. I personally watch them for Ed Schultz, Chris Hayes, and Rachel Maddow. Which are all opinion blocks and I know it. But unlike O'Reilly or Hannity, they're opinions about facts, rather than opinions about how mean liberals are being this week.

I just find it amusing that any given episode of Ancient Aliens is more rooted in factual basis than anything said on Fox News. At least when the folks on H2 start extrapolating preposterous theories, they’re doing so from facts and evidence that actually exist. Fox simply makes up the evidence as needed.
tabaqui 12th-Nov-2012 01:22 am (UTC)
I find it mind-boggling that anyone with half a brain can see Fox as anything but rank propaganda. I mean - they are banned from Canada! They won a lawsuit *to lie*!!

How much more obvious to they have to be?
dorknessrising 12th-Nov-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
That's because the people who watch Fox News don't care about how factually accurate they are. Watching Fox is like listening to a sermon; they want to hear someone whom they see as an authority validate their opinions, even if they have to lie to do it.
tabaqui 12th-Nov-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
This.
dorknessrising 12th-Nov-2012 03:46 am (UTC)
It's sad, really. My mother watches it all the time and thinks they're the only unbiased news source there is; even CNN is too left for her, and she thinks everything on the internet is completely fabricated.

But every time, I see her react to Fox the same way she reacts to the sermons she hears every Sunday, which is where I draw my conclusions from. "Leave your brain at the door and just trust God" is so ingrained in Catholic dogma that she cannot form an opinion of her own without someone she agrees with holding her hand.

And she is exactly the kind of audience Fox preys on. Angry, easily swayed, reactionary, emotional, and scared of becoming irrelevant.

She also hates when I psychoanalyze this shit, because the truth is like a branding iron on very raw nerves to people like her.

Edited at 2012-11-12 03:47 am (UTC)
tabaqui 12th-Nov-2012 05:46 am (UTC)
Yet another reason i find organized religion repugnant.
dorknessrising 12th-Nov-2012 05:50 am (UTC)
Same. Faith itself is not bad. But when you try to ascribe rules to that faith and forbid critical thinking and asking questions, it's not going to end well. Any kind of belief that discourages thinking and questioning is dangerous, whether it's religious or not.
meran_flash 13th-Nov-2012 07:33 am (UTC)
Holy bananas you're also a member of jetheartszuko
skellington1 12th-Nov-2012 07:49 pm (UTC)
Angry, easily swayed, reactionary, emotional, and scared of becoming irrelevant.

My father out-of-law fits that bill perfectly (and the Catholic bit, as well). He's angry because he's always been the Powerful Bread Winning Patriarch, and as he ages he's not even THAT anymore.
stainedfeathers 12th-Nov-2012 03:10 am (UTC)
"I mean - they are banned from Canada! "

You had me all excited to read about that- turns out it's not true... I'm disappointed, I had the popcorn in the microwave: http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/foxcanada.asp
tabaqui 12th-Nov-2012 03:24 am (UTC)
That makes me sad.
layweed 12th-Nov-2012 01:18 am (UTC)
I don't have cable so I get my news from PBS NewsHour and local/national broadcast networks. But my impression of FoxNews from everything I've ever seen on here and on the local Fox channel that rebroadcasts their segments and all that is that not only are they farrrrrrrrrr from "fair and balanced", they are also fucking inept at reporting the news, even if it's something as simple as maps and things like party notations (turning R into D and vice versa). I get that mistakes happen, but wtf?

But yeah, if they would just come out and admit that they are a conservative news source instead of hiding behind this guise of being "fair and balanced", that would definitely be a start.
dorknessrising 12th-Nov-2012 01:37 am (UTC)
I don't even go to MSNBC for actual news. I watch the opinion segments because Ed Schultz, Chris Hayes, and Rachel Maddow are hilarious and awesome, and that they report accurate facts and correct themselves when they screw up while being sensible and funny about it is merely a bonus.

I get my actual news from sources like Reuters' and Associated Press' websites as well as my local news sites. If I have to get it from TV, I prefer C-SPAN (where you can watch the actual government proceedings in real-time without any commentary, period).
layweed 12th-Nov-2012 01:46 am (UTC)
I wish I had C-SPAN on tv. I could watch it all day long, even though most government proceedings sound terribly dull.
masakochan 12th-Nov-2012 01:41 am (UTC)
Well- if you wanna see a "best"/worst hits collection of some of their headlines: I recently found a BuzzFeed link that lists 45 of 'em from 2011. Though I don't know how many have mentioned over here.
layweed 12th-Nov-2012 01:47 am (UTC)
oh lordy.
skellington1 12th-Nov-2012 07:53 pm (UTC)
... I thought I'd seen enough faux news headlines to be unsurprised by the hate and stupidity.

And then I saw: "CHUCK NORRIS FACTS. ARE THEY TRUE?"

DYING.
bushy_brow 13th-Nov-2012 02:48 am (UTC)
OMG, the horns on Rupert Murdoch! *dead* And Universal Nightmare: Sarah Palin. *can't breathe*

Thank you for this. :-D
liret 12th-Nov-2012 06:07 am (UTC)
I used to think Fox was just conservative the way MSNBC or NPR is liberal - I don't really mind a news outlet showing a bias or presenting a certain interpretation of facts, because as long as the facts are sound you can work around it. And then I was stuck watching Fox for a day and I heard the same completely misleading statements being announced as absolute truth in three different shows. I've realized the dangerous difference with Fox is that they can assume that a lot of their viewers will not get or trust news from anywhere else. It means they can outright lie, and insist the story is whatever they say it is, and there is no one who matters to call them on it,
pennylane101 12th-Nov-2012 03:00 pm (UTC)
how can you stand watching this? or has it been 2 decades bc you're family is super conservative?
dorknessrising 12th-Nov-2012 03:15 pm (UTC)
To be honest, the only thing that hasn't made me change my registration is that if I register as a Democrat, I can't vote in the Republican primaries. And as it stands now, the Democrats don't need people like me to filter out the crazy in their party. The Republicans do. Oh lord do they.

One of the GOP's biggest problems is that it's gone on such an eat-their-own crusade for the last few decades that all the moderates have crossed over to either Independent or even Democrat. I don't want to be one of those people who gets chased out, because that won't ground the party back into reality.
shhh_its_s3cr3t 12th-Nov-2012 01:23 am (UTC)
Is it horrible of me to actually be thankful that FoxNews continues to be a millstone around the GOP's neck?

Anytime a fact is checked off it seems that its a conspiracy of the liberals to deny God's True Meaning where I live.

So I say let em sink... Have a great trip! :)
blackjedii 12th-Nov-2012 01:44 am (UTC)
Why should they change. They're making billions.

Even if Romney won, I think Fox would pick out a brand new boogeyman. Because what they're doing is $$$$.
jwaneeta 12th-Nov-2012 02:48 am (UTC)
Glad to hear it.
bushy_brow 12th-Nov-2012 03:16 am (UTC)
IKR? I'm like, "And this is a problem because...?"
hilsongirl 12th-Nov-2012 03:31 am (UTC)
i love how they are blaming anyone and anything but Mitt or Karl Rove. It was Sandy! It was Orca! It was Fox News! It was the demographic!

hinoema 12th-Nov-2012 04:25 am (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed they're trying to blame Fox for the 47% thing. No, Mitt, that was you.
shortsweetcynic 13th-Nov-2012 12:24 pm (UTC)
LOL

ARE YOU SERIOUS
hinoema 13th-Nov-2012 01:05 pm (UTC)
That's what I got from this bit:

The American Prospect's Paul Waldman wrote that Fox and other conservative media are effective at "whipping up stories out of nothing and forcing the mainstream media to pay attention, capable of keeping their troops in line and bucking up their morale, capable of quickly disseminating messages far and wide, creating new stars and enforcing discipline."

But, he added, the success of this misinformation resulted in the "single most damaging moment for Mitt Romney in this election, the 47 percent tape." Waldman further wrote that Fox and other conservative media may be "the right's Achilles' Heel."


They're basically saying that the 47% tape was 'misinformation' from the conservative media.
cozmic_oceanz 12th-Nov-2012 12:54 pm (UTC)
Yeah seriously!!
sephirajo 12th-Nov-2012 04:49 pm (UTC)
~Personal Responsibility~ doesn't mean what they think it means, apparently.
deathbytamarind 12th-Nov-2012 06:09 am (UTC)
I'm a journalist and I think it's hilarious that Fox News and the GOP go to hell together in their sick little handbasket. I can't abide by journalists using the trade for all the wrong reasons like Fox News does. They deserve each other.
cozmic_oceanz 12th-Nov-2012 12:54 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I kinda wish though that people/conservatives would quit blaming other things for why Romney lost and just realize, in the end, it is because the majority of this country disagrees with his straight up policies.
recorded 12th-Nov-2012 02:00 pm (UTC)

this gif has been useful.
mollywobbles867 12th-Nov-2012 04:59 pm (UTC)
~shocking~
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