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10:03 am - 11/12/2012
Crime won't pay: Gangsters flaunting "bling" will lose it if they can't prove it was bought legally

The move, raising an extra £125million a year to be ploughed back into crime-hit neighbourhoods, is part of a plan unveiled by Ed Miliband

Gangsters flaunting “bling” will lose it if they cannot prove it was bought with legal earnings, under Labour plans to ensure that crime doesn’t pay.

The move, raising an extra £125million a year to be ploughed back into crime-hit neighbourhoods, is part of a three-point “restorative justice” plan unveiled by Ed Miliband today.

The Labour leader also wants to close loopholes that allow crooks to put ill-gotten gains such as flash cars, yachts and jewellery out of reach of the courts by signing them over to wives or girlfriends.

And he wants victims of anti-social behaviour to have a legal right to get yobs to make amends by cleaning graffiti or fixing vandalised property.

He said: “I will stand up for the police and victims of crime. That means giving people whose lives are being damaged by anti-social behaviour a legal right to ensure those responsible get more than a slap on the wrist.

“It also means demonstrating that crime does not pay by making criminals pay back more of their ill-gotten gains to the communities they have made suffer.”

Courts can only seize proven crime proceeds currently, and the £125million a year it raises goes to the Treasury and police.

Placing the burden of proof on criminals could double the income, so the rest could go to communities. [Ed: And completely overturn the principle of innocent until proven guilty.]

Mr Miliband also urged people to use their vote in Thursday’s Police Commissioner polls.


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So essentially if a policeman thinks you've got something too nice for your apparent income, they can take it away unless you can prove that you bought it. Not sure why I expected any better from the party that gave us ludicrously authoritarian stop and search laws. More fool me.
pepsquad 12th-Nov-2012 05:53 pm (UTC)
wtf f that noise!
hobnailedboots 12th-Nov-2012 05:54 pm (UTC)
wtf about the principle of innocent until proven guilty? SMH Ed. We already have the Proceeds of Crime Act - amendment of that, rather than a complete overhaul that undermines the foundations of our legal system, please.
ellonwye 12th-Nov-2012 05:59 pm (UTC)
.. what?

Yes this is the REAL issue here, poor people with nice things!
strandedinaber 12th-Nov-2012 06:06 pm (UTC)
WTF LABOUR.

YOU WERE MY LEAST BAD OPTION. STOP IT WITH THIS SHIT.

ETA: Oh wait. Mirror source. I'll be back once I find out if it's actually true or not. This is why I should check the source before getting ragey.

Edited at 2012-11-12 06:07 pm (UTC)
paulnolan 12th-Nov-2012 06:51 pm (UTC)
Eh, the Mirror's not normally that bad wrt. accuracy. Certainly better than the Mail, Sun etc., anyway.
poetic_pixie_13 12th-Nov-2012 06:53 pm (UTC)
Soooooooooooooo, is the Queen and the rest of the monarchy going to give back their illegally obtained bling and wealth?
mskye 12th-Nov-2012 07:27 pm (UTC)
srsly
luminescnece 12th-Nov-2012 08:22 pm (UTC)
It isn't crime when you have other people do it for you is the moral of this story I guess...
alryssa 13th-Nov-2012 06:10 am (UTC)
It isn't crime when you have white people do it


seems more accurate now



luminescnece 13th-Nov-2012 06:20 am (UTC)
You win good fellow,
alryssa 13th-Nov-2012 08:37 am (UTC)
'tis but one small service I provide! Avast!

*rides off into the sunset*
keestone 12th-Nov-2012 11:19 pm (UTC)
Quick! Someone tell Greece that now's the time to claim back the Elgin Marbles.
mephisto5 12th-Nov-2012 11:21 pm (UTC)
No Prime Minister will ever give them back because they would be crucified in the press as having 'lost their marbles'. The awful puns in the headlines would go on for weeks.
keestone 13th-Nov-2012 01:12 pm (UTC)
Ye gods. I want it to happen SO MUCH MORE NOW!
mskye 12th-Nov-2012 07:28 pm (UTC)
Yeahhhhhh.... I'm sure this bill makes sense in the minds of sheltered rich people (or as I like to call them, "assholes").
mollywobbles867 12th-Nov-2012 08:13 pm (UTC)
What a waste of fucking time.
lil_insanity 12th-Nov-2012 08:13 pm (UTC)
Ugh, I can't believe I'm even reading that correctly. People sicken me.
elobelia 12th-Nov-2012 08:26 pm (UTC)
This isn't a joke? This is a real idea that a real person thought up and thought was good?
mephisto5 12th-Nov-2012 08:28 pm (UTC)
A real person who is the real leader of a real political party, no less.
blackjedii 12th-Nov-2012 08:40 pm (UTC)
intrikate88 12th-Nov-2012 11:13 pm (UTC)
How... what? How does this make any sense? How on earth would that be enforced without risking massive police corruption, expensive "anti-theft" initiatives, a waste of police funds, while all the time assuming that the same number of police, with more laws to enforce, will not choose to go receipt- and paystub-checking instead of, perhaps, investigating actual crimes?
mirhanda 13th-Nov-2012 12:11 am (UTC)
Sounds rather like the forfeiture laws here in the U.S. They are constantly abused too.
caffeine_buzz 13th-Nov-2012 02:46 am (UTC)
Meanwhile, somewhere in Arizona Jan Brewer's just gotten a great idea for a new law.
1trackmind 13th-Nov-2012 03:08 am (UTC)
God I hope not.

Why don't we just merge this with the awesome "stop and frisk" laws in New York?

I was interested by the repeated reference to "gangsters." So does the law only apply to people who have been affirmatively identified in some way as belonging to a gang? Are people suspected of gang ties just supposed to carry around receipts (including gift receipts) all the time? Really?
bleakwinters 13th-Nov-2012 01:33 pm (UTC)
Way to go about not being a Tory, Milliband.
its_anya 13th-Nov-2012 04:59 pm (UTC)
Wtf Labour, wtf. You're supposed to be the lesser of two evils.
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