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There Is A Brutal Civil War In The GOP, And It Looks Like Karl Rove Will Be The First Casualty

Grace Wyler | Nov. 10, 2012, 5:58 PM

Grassroots Republican operatives and Movement conservatives are quickly turning against the GOP Establishment in the wake of the party's expensive defeat this election cycle.

Republicans we spoke to this week voiced a near-universal disgust with the national Republican Party leaders and Washington political class, who are seen as having put their personal financial interest above winning the election.

As this internecine struggle gathers steam, the first target appears to be Karl Rove, the former Bush campaign mastermind who has dictated much of the GOP's strategy over the past decade.

In the wake of the party's 2012 losses, however, Rove and his well-funded American Crossroads super PAC have become a symbol of misguided Establishment strategy, party cronyism, and Beltway bloat. The fall from grace is perhaps unsurprising, given his group's disastrous performance this cycle. According to a new report, American Crossroads got a mere 1% return on its $104 million investment in 2012 races.

For social conservatives, Rove's treason began long before election day, when the Fox News contributor led the party's tar-and-feathering of Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin, who came under fire for his now infamous "legitimate rape" comments. The party's perceived betrayal of Akin confirmed what many grassroots conservative activists had long suspected: That the Republican Establishment was willing to throw the base under the bus to serve the interests of deep-pocketed donors.

Chief among Rove's critics is David Lane, a powerful evangelical kingmaker and conservative operative who organizes briefings between pastors and politicians. In an email obtained by Business Insider, Lane lays out his criticism of Rove and sets the stage clearly for the coming war between the GOP Establishment and the party base.

Lane writes:

Karl Rove presents a different problem -- while [evangelical leaders] are politically naive (from my angle) — Karl is not, he's as shrewd as a serpent.

Karl is far more formidable...in the presidential Republican primary in 12', Karl stepped on Rick Perry and then Newt Gingrich every chance he got — albeit with deceit and sophistication — and elevated Mitt Romney at strategic, crucial points along their way to the Republican nomination — Rove's candidate.

As an example of how sophisticated Rove is…Karl Rove was out raising money to keep Santorum alive until they could kill Newt — Santorum basically ran for Governor of Iowa in 2011, visiting all 99 counties; Santorum, out of Iowa, had no organization, no money and no chance in 2012 to be the Republican nominee; he was only a stalking horse for Mitt Romney — Rove kept Santorum alive until he could kill Rick Perry first, and then Newt Gingrich.

It's instructive to note that Santorum placed 3rd in the South Carolina Presidential Primary the third week of January, and placed 3rd again the next week in Florida — yet Rove [by encouraging GOP donors to donate Santorum] was able to parlay two third place finishes into a $1M shot of money to keep Santorum alive...this is political gamesmanship on a whole other level, plus access to unlimited money.

That FOX News and the The Wall Street Journal worked out a hefty financial contract with Karl Rove is of no concern to me, Karl has every right to be paid well and — like me —participate in the political process. But giving Karl Rove the perch as a neutral analyst and an unbiased observer -- honest broker — when in reality Karl is driven by his desire to enhance his clients and/or personal interests — corrupts the process.

Being whipsawed…[by] Karl Rove & the GOP chieftains and lieutenants has to be dealt with on our way toward 2016.

Attacks on the GOP Establishment and Washington political class have not been limited to Rove. In a post leading the conservative site RedState this weekend, the Romney campaign is accused of being a "con job," in which consultants spun "false data as truth in order to paint a rosy picture of a successful campaign as a form of job security."

The feeling that Republicans were duped by their own is echoed around the conservative blogosphere, as right-leaning writers, activists, and the party's rank-and-file collectively process how the GOP lost an election that less than a year ago looked to be in the bag. These tweets, from Breitbart.com editor John Nolte, provide a good illustration:

(OP Says: I don't know how to copy the tweets, so I'll type them out verbatim. Feel free to check, and please correct me if I made a copyist's error)

John Nolte @NolteCE 8Nov
Actually, my gut told me the polls were correct. I've always believed RCP averages. Arguments against were so good, I went against my gut.

John Nolte @NolteCE 8Nov
Frequently, I accuse the media of being in a bubble, but Right Media built its own around these polls. Never happening to me again.

John Nolte @NolteCE 8Nov
Not believing the polls was my own choice. No one's fault but mine. But worrisome that no Grown Up on our side bucked this.

John Nolte @NolteCE 8Nov
Honest question: Was anyone on our side trying to make the case that these polls were correct? Anyone trying to talk us down?

And among Republicans, there is a sense that the Establishment is getting what it deserves. In an email to Business Insider, one GOP strategist summed it up:

"A party who won't paint in bold colors, who puts out flawed messengers, who doesn't focus on fundamentals, who pisses off the young and the libertarian, well, that party just got what was coming to it."

Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/karl-rove-gop-money-civil-war-republicans-2012-11

OP Says: Oh, Turd Blossom. You tried.
4o5pastmidnight 13th-Nov-2012 05:52 am (UTC)
OP Says: Oh, Turd Blossom. You tried.

I lol'd
arielcharming 13th-Nov-2012 05:53 am (UTC)
Your title makes me giddy because my bff & I are going to see Avenue Q at a college theater this Friday. I am so excited lol

Edited at 2012-11-13 05:54 am (UTC)
maisontv 13th-Nov-2012 02:56 pm (UTC)
I knew that title sounded familiar! (Confession: I sing the end of that song in my head any time I need to spell schadenfreude. I did it just now.)
effervescent 13th-Nov-2012 06:27 am (UTC)
(Watching actors never reach the ending of their Oscar speech! Schadenfreude~)

It'll be interesting to see if they manage to bring themselves to cooperate, in the end.
butterbuns 13th-Nov-2012 06:29 am (UTC)
Dammit you beat me to it XD
vanishingbee 13th-Nov-2012 06:36 am (UTC)
For social conservatives, Rove's treason began long before election day, when the Fox News contributor led the party's tar-and-feathering of Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin, who came under fire for his now infamous "legitimate rape" comments. The party's perceived betrayal of Akin...

The Republican Party: Where the problem is that you didn't support the rape apologist!

Edited at 2012-11-13 06:37 am (UTC)
hinoema 13th-Nov-2012 06:46 am (UTC)
Just what I was thinking.
koshkabegemot 13th-Nov-2012 07:16 am (UTC)
mte

I found that portion of the article to be very telling of how the party feels.
beoweasel 13th-Nov-2012 07:20 am (UTC)
Yup.
effervescent 13th-Nov-2012 07:21 am (UTC)
I don't think they have any awareness of just how disgusting they've become.
maladaptive 13th-Nov-2012 12:35 pm (UTC)
I know, right? "That thing that made moderates feel that Rove wasn't totally evil because he showed a modicum of decency opposing blatant cruelty and utmost stupidity. That's where we went wrong!"

....Uh.....
wumbawoman 13th-Nov-2012 01:08 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you made this comment. It's early for me and when I read that part I thought, "Surely I'm reading this wrong."
bushy_brow 13th-Nov-2012 04:01 pm (UTC)
Sad but true. *sigh*
little_rachael 13th-Nov-2012 05:50 pm (UTC)
Yep.
skellington1 13th-Nov-2012 08:08 pm (UTC)
IKR?
hinoema 13th-Nov-2012 06:45 am (UTC)
The party's perceived betrayal of Akin confirmed what many grassroots conservative activists had long suspected: That the Republican Establishment was willing to throw the base under the bus to serve the interests of deep-pocketed donors.

So let me get this straight- Akin should get support despite his pathetic remarks because he's 'one of us'? That is a far stronger condemnation of these 'social conservatives' than of Rove.
mercystars 13th-Nov-2012 07:09 am (UTC)
maybe dogs will eat him, like they ate Ham Rove on Colbert's show this evening
cyranothe2nd There isn't enough side-eye in the world.13th-Nov-2012 07:13 am (UTC)
The party's perceived betrayal of Akin confirmed what many grassroots conservative activists had long suspected: That the Republican Establishment was willing to throw the base under the bus to serve the interests of deep-pocketed donors.

Let me get this straight...they are mad because the Party "betrayed" Akin??? Wow.

Depp judges you



atomic_joe2 13th-Nov-2012 09:58 am (UTC)
I think the choice is for the GOP: evolve or die. Ironically along the lines of Darwinism that a lot of them don't believe in.
keestone 13th-Nov-2012 01:10 pm (UTC)
Wow. Way to go Republican party "grassroots" folks. I didn't think it was possible to make Karl Rove look like the good guy in a situation.

(Also LOL at the implicit suggestion that keeping Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich in the race any longer would have done anything other than completely kill any chances of a Republican president earlier. Rove was right that Romney was the best shot they had this time around -- not the best GOP candidate, just the best shot considering the nutjob "grassroots" base the GOP has been pandering to -- he was just wrong in thinking their best shot was good enough.)

"A party who won't paint in bold colors, who puts out flawed messengers, who doesn't focus on fundamentals, who pisses off the young and the libertarian, well, that party just got what was coming to it."
. . . Even more LOL. Dude, strategist, can't you see that you're splitting yourself apart here? The GOP idea of "bold colors" and "focus on fundamentals" has been exactly the kind of stuff that "pisses off the young and libertarian".
skellington1 13th-Nov-2012 08:09 pm (UTC)
One of these days I'm going to have to do a silly otter cheesecake icon just to go with yours. :P
thecityofdis 13th-Nov-2012 02:18 pm (UTC)
a+ subject line, op.
nicosian 13th-Nov-2012 02:26 pm (UTC)
They really have NO clue what went badly for them, nor do I suspect they're capable of such deep insight.

It couldn't have been the rape apologism, the obsession over retracting rights from anyone but the big white dudes, the creepy Mittens show. And then getting into bed with corporate interests who might rightfully be pissed that the GOP used it to fund a fundie-bender and lost.

I fully expect a double-down, quadruple down on the extremism, because they really haven't the capacity to see it could be anything but "the message wasn't conservative enough".

They won't learn the lessons.
bnmc2005 13th-Nov-2012 02:59 pm (UTC)
Republicans we spoke to this week voiced a near-universal disgust with the national Republican Party leaders and Washington political class, who are seen as having put their personal financial interest above winning the election.

WAIT. Someone in this party ... Put personal financial gains... ahead of anything else? WHAT?

moonshaz 13th-Nov-2012 11:27 pm (UTC)
A+++
maisontv 13th-Nov-2012 03:01 pm (UTC)
I am gobsmacked that the takeaway they got from this whole shellacking (to borrow from Rachel Maddow) is that they need to be more conservative.
astridmyrna 13th-Nov-2012 03:17 pm (UTC)
For social conservatives, Rove's treason began long before election day, when the Fox News contributor led the party's tar-and-feathering of Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin, who came under fire for his now infamous "legitimate rape" comments. The party's perceived betrayal of Akin confirmed what many grassroots conservative activists had long suspected: That the Republican Establishment was willing to throw the base under the bus to serve the interests of deep-pocketed donors.

These people seem to have forgotten what the GOP is at its heart:

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crossfire 13th-Nov-2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
For social conservatives, Rove's treason began long before election day, when the Fox News contributor led the party's tar-and-feathering of Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin, who came under fire for his now infamous "legitimate rape" comments. The party's perceived betrayal of Akin confirmed what many grassroots conservative activists had long suspected: That the Republican Establishment was willing to throw the base under the bus to serve the interests of deep-pocketed donors.

There are so many things wrong with these two sentences it's hard to list them all. BUT I WILL TRY:

1. What Akin said was disgusting, and he should feel disgusting.
2. Motive aside, not rallying around Akin is the correct thing to do.
3. I don't recall Rove tarring and feathering anyone on this topic
4. These two sentences seem to be equating "social conservatives" and "the party."
5. If "the party" really did feel like everyone should have rallied around Akin, then "the party" is disgusting and should feel disgusting
and finally
6. NONE OF THIS MATTERS. Akin didn't get ousted because he was betrayed. He didn't get ousted because Rove tarred and feathered him. He didn't get ousted because of deep-pocketed donors. Akin got ousted because he's a misogynistic shitbag and THE VOTERS DECIDED HE SHOULD GO BECAUSE MISOGYNISTIC SHITBAGS SHOULDN'T OCCUPY PUBLIC OFFICE.

JFC these people JUST DON'T GET IT.
uluviel 13th-Nov-2012 07:31 pm (UTC)
For social conservatives, Rove's treason began long before election day, when the Fox News contributor led the party's tar-and-feathering of Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin, who came under fire for his now infamous "legitimate rape" comments. The party's perceived betrayal of Akin confirmed what many grassroots conservative activists had long suspected: That the Republican Establishment was willing to throw the base under the bus to serve the interests of deep-pocketed donors.

Wait, the GOP base is angry that the GOP leaders threw Akin under the bus? Todd "your body has ways to shut the whole thing off" Akin?

Your problem is not your leaders, GOP.
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