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A decisive conclusion is necessary

11:33 am - 11/19/2012
A decisive conclusion is necessary
There is no middle path here – either the Gazans and their infrastructure are made to pay the price, or we reoccupy the entire Gaza Strip.

Anyone who thinks Hamas is going to beg for a cease-fire, that Operation Pillar of Defense will draw to a close and quiet will reign in the South because we hit targets in the Gaza Strip, needs to think again.

With the elimination of a murderous terrorist and the destruction of Hamas’s long-range missile stockpile, the operation was off to an auspicious start, but what now? This must not be allowed to end as did Operation Cast Lead: We bomb them, they fire missiles at us, and then a cease-fire, followed by “showers” – namely sporadic missile fire and isolated incidents along the fence. Life under such a rain of death is no life at all, and we cannot allow ourselves to become resigned to it.

A strong opening isn’t enough, you also have to know how to finish – and finish decisively. If it isn’t clear whether the ball crossed the goal-line or not, the goal isn’t decisive. The ball needs to hit the net, visible to all. What does a decisive victory sound like? A Tarzan-like cry that lets the entire jungle know in no uncertain terms just who won, and just who was defeated.

To accomplish this, you need to achieve what the other side can’t bear, can’t live with, and our initial bombing campaign isn’t it.

THE DESIRE to prevent harm to innocent civilians in Gaza will ultimately lead to harming the truly innocent: the residents of southern Israel. The residents of Gaza are not innocent, they elected Hamas. The Gazans aren’t hostages; they chose this freely, and must live with the consequences.

The Gaza Strip functions as a state – it has a government and conducts foreign relations, there are schools, medical facilities, there are armed forces and all the other trappings of statehood. We have no territorial conflict with “Gaza State,” and it is not under Israeli siege – it shares a border with Egypt. Despite this, it fires on our citizens without restraint.

Why do our citizens have to live with rocket fire from Gaza while we fight with our hands tied? Why are the citizens of Gaza immune? If the Syrians were to open fire on our towns, would we not attack Damascus? If the Cubans were to fire at Miami, wouldn’t Havana suffer the consequences? That’s what’s called “deterrence” – if you shoot at me, I’ll shoot at you. There is no justification for the State of Gaza being able to shoot at our towns with impunity. We need to flatten entire neighborhoods in Gaza. Flatten all of Gaza. The Americans didn’t stop with Hiroshima – the Japanese weren’t surrendering fast enough, so they hit Nagasaki, too.

There should be no electricity in Gaza, no gasoline or moving vehicles, nothing. Then they’d really call for a ceasefire.

Were this to happen, the images from Gaza might be unpleasant – but victory would be swift, and the lives of our soldiers and civilians spared.

IF THE government isn’t prepared to go all the way on this, it will mean reoccupying the entire Gaza Strip. Not a few neighborhoods in the suburbs, as with Cast Lead, but the entire Strip, like in Defensive Shield, so that rockets can no longer be fired.

There is no middle path here – either the Gazans and their infrastructure are made to pay the price, or we reoccupy the entire Gaza Strip. Otherwise there will be no decisive victory. And we’re running out of time – we must achieve victory quickly. The Netanyahu government is on a short international leash. Soon the pressure will start – and a million civilians can’t live under fire for long. This needs to end quickly – with a bang, not a whimper.


The writer, whom I currently think is evil, is the son of former PM of Israel Ariel Sharon.

He certainly isn't alone in his thinking; according to a HuffPo article: Israel's Deputy Prime Minister Eli Yishai is reported by The Yeshiva World News to have said, "We must blow Gaza back to the Middle Ages, destroying all the infrastructure including roads and water." Haaretz also reports that Yishai stated, "The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages."

So far, 73 Palestinians and 3 Israelis have died.
ennifer_jay Re: and what do yu think about this?19th-Nov-2012 09:43 am (UTC)
homasse Re: and what do yu think about this?19th-Nov-2012 10:34 am (UTC)
ennifer_jay Re: and what do yu think about this?20th-Nov-2012 04:31 pm (UTC)
skellington1 Re: and what do yu think about this?19th-Nov-2012 09:18 pm (UTC)
A) an international internet community on a russian-owned platform is not the USA.
B) The right to Free Speech in the US means that the government is not supposed to censor your speech. Individuals can still tell you they think you should shut up.
redstar826 Re: and what do yu think about this?19th-Nov-2012 09:57 pm (UTC)
Posting an image with the word "stop" does nothing to infringe upon your right to speak. You have every right to share you views and other people have every right to tell you they disagree, that they want you to stop with a particular line of reasoning, etc.

celtic_thistle Re: and what do yu think about this?19th-Nov-2012 10:12 pm (UTC)
Yeah, and we can tell you to fucking stop because the shit you're posting is vile and derailing.
ladypolitik Mod Warning. 20th-Nov-2012 06:16 pm (UTC)
The next time you spam-link to triggering photos of dead children, you will be banned.

Consider this your first official warning.
ladypolitik Re: Mod Warning. 21st-Nov-2012 06:46 am (UTC)
You cannot be seriously defending yourself with "But mommy, the other kids did it first" tropes.

(1) That post has a notable absence of link-spam to dead bodies; you cant quite claim the same. Had you linked to your weird link once, that would have been forgiveable.

(2) You conveniently ignored that members in that post were quick to demand that the OP place graphic photos behind an lj-cut, before any mods needed to intervene. Any regularly participating member of this community (which you're not) knows that's routine (i.e., members' ability to self-police, and short of that, contacting the mods).

(3) It's interesting that you said nothing at the time, even while members sympathetic to the Palestinian narrative spoke up about the photo in that post. What were you waiting for, exactly, besides an excuse to exploit grossly misinterpreted loopholes with regard to graphic content when you saw fit?

Try as you might, you cant make this into an Israeli/Palestinian competition over disaster porn; that's clearly your own hang-up.
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