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Those people who burned to death? They were happy for those jobs!

1:07 am - 11/27/2012
Fox Host: People Who Died In Walmart Factory Fire Were Thankful For Their Jobs

The 129 Bangladeshis who died in a fire caused by poor fire safety conditions in their garment factory should be thankful for their jobs, according to Fox Business host Charles Payne. Speaking with Neil Cavuto on Fox News this Monday, Payne excused this Sunday’s fire as a rare event and labelled all critics of the unsafe conditions that contributed to the tragedy as anti-Capitalist:

PAYNE: It is tragic. I don’t think something like this will happen again. Don’t think that the people in Bangladesh who perished didn’t want or need those jobs, as well. I know we like to victimize everyone in this country, particularly when it comes to for-profit motivation, which is being assaulted. But, you know, it is a tragedy but I think it is a stretch, an amazing stretch, to sort of try to pin this on Walmart but, of course, the unions in this country are desperate.

The Bangladeshi factory in question, Tazreen Factories, had no functioning extinguishers, locked the exits, and employed managers who told factory workers to go back to their stations when the fire alarm went off. Since 2006, over 200 people have died in Bangladeshi garment factories as a consequence of the substandard safety precautions prevalent in their factory. Some believe companies like Walmart — whose brands were found in the burnt factory — would move if production at the faculty were more expensive; that is, if things like basic safety precautions were implemented.

During his defense of the factory, Payne referred to himself as “a spokesman for capitalism and the American Dream” and said “for a lot of people, this [Walmart business practice] is a step in the right direction.”

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chaya 27th-Nov-2012 01:35 pm (UTC)
Damn, 3 of the 4 recent posts are hating something fierce on Fox News. It might appear that the comm has a bias against them.

*tries to care*

*oh well*
nicosian 27th-Nov-2012 02:20 pm (UTC)
I want to give him a taste of the scare treatment. Lock him in his office while the fire alarms are going and tell him to keep working. fill the office with smoke, and heat. Wait till he's pants-pissing terrified, read back what he's just said, and see what happens.

Goddamned flapping jackass.
shhh_its_s3cr3t 27th-Nov-2012 03:34 pm (UTC)

I really hate stupid people. UGH!
kynical 27th-Nov-2012 03:13 pm (UTC)
I haven't watched much coverage. However, the few articles I read didn't make mention of it at all...which Fucking Hell know your history people.
moonshaz 27th-Nov-2012 02:45 pm (UTC)
Don’t think that the people in Bangladesh who perished didn’t want or need those jobs, as well.

And this has WHAT to do with ANYTHING?

Oh, yeah. Fuck all, that's what.

red_pill 27th-Nov-2012 02:59 pm (UTC)
pritty much my thought. "its great they had a job, where prahapse there hard to get. now if it hadnt been a death trap of a building, and if walmart wasnt paying for that death trap of a building, more or less, i might be more included to look kindly upon them"

noneko 27th-Nov-2012 02:50 pm (UTC)
Triangle Shirtwaist Factory vibes, and not in a good way.
kynical 27th-Nov-2012 03:10 pm (UTC)
Very frightening and eerie vibes.
jasonbeast 27th-Nov-2012 02:58 pm (UTC)
Well, yes, they should be thankful. Instead, they're, you know ... dead.
sihaya09 27th-Nov-2012 03:06 pm (UTC)
It's "anti-Capitalist" to expect decent safety precautions? Jesus fucking christ, asshole. Reach for the moon.
kynical 27th-Nov-2012 03:11 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it is "anti-Capitalist" in the worldview of this dude and others. If it costs the rich and powerful money it is "anti-Capitalist."
kynical 27th-Nov-2012 03:09 pm (UTC)
Gee. Sounds like what was said here in this country after the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire

Massive fire. Check. Workers locked in (to prevent stealing). Check. "Grateful" to have a job that didn't include bathroom breaks. Check. No safety equipment. Check. People bleating that too much is getting made about it and those workers were and should be grateful. Check.
yeats 27th-Nov-2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
in 100 years will nyu use the building for faculty offices tho
ahzuri 27th-Nov-2012 03:23 pm (UTC)
Yes because any large company has ever had any shits to give when there are poor conditions in a foreign factory they use. I feel bad for these people they DESERVE better than working themselves to death. Fucking Sick.

Edited at 2012-11-27 03:23 pm (UTC)
shhh_its_s3cr3t 27th-Nov-2012 03:38 pm (UTC)

Sorry - I'm raging right now because too much stupid in the morning is bad for everyone.
poetic_pixie_13 27th-Nov-2012 03:58 pm (UTC)
ladylothwen 27th-Nov-2012 04:06 pm (UTC)
Are they serious right now? The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire was 100 years ago and people are still spewing this bullshit.
yamamanama 27th-Nov-2012 04:11 pm (UTC)
Why do you think they're opening factories in places like Bangladesh in the first place? It certainly isn't to improve their economies.

Edited at 2012-11-27 04:11 pm (UTC)
wikilobbying 27th-Nov-2012 04:25 pm (UTC)
Payne excused this Sunday’s fire as a rare event and labelled all critics of the unsafe conditions that contributed to the tragedy as anti-Capitalist

so "rarity" excuses not having proper safety precautions implemented by the corporation? criticizing those unsafe conditions is anti-capitalist? you know, i think y'all need to start seriously considering how unhealthy your relationship with capitalism is if you're not horrified by unsafe working conditions.

but then these assholes would have to view workers as people and god forbid they do that.
aviv_b 27th-Nov-2012 04:31 pm (UTC)
Rarity is irrelevant when the victims are 100% dead.
jenny_jenkins 27th-Nov-2012 04:31 pm (UTC)
No, they don't need a job where they are told to return to work when fire alarms go off so they can burn to death.

They need jobs where they are safe.

Simple enough.

What a fucking asshole.
violetrose 27th-Nov-2012 05:20 pm (UTC)
HDU criticise capitalism in any way you filthy commie!

In all seriousness, though - I completely agree. Unregulated capitalism is fucking awful and is all about placing profits above actual people.

Personally, I prefer either democratic socialism or social democracy; the latter works around capitalism and generally does a good job 'fixing' the holes and problems pure capitalism creates, by creating basic social safety nets so society can actually function.
violetrose 27th-Nov-2012 05:13 pm (UTC)
OP, this post shouldn't be tagged with 'India'. The fire was in Bangladesh.

And in situations like this, people will find any way to make excuses or support the major companies, rather than defend actual human beings. Sickening, but unsurprising.
beoweasel 27th-Nov-2012 08:39 pm (UTC)
For some reason, I can't get rid of the frigging India tag. :|
vvalkyri 27th-Nov-2012 05:21 pm (UTC)
Crikey, how the hell many times does the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire have to be recreated in the developing world? It is particularly galling when the factory supplies American retailers, given that our own Department of Labor was created in response to TSF.
kitanabychoice 27th-Nov-2012 05:36 pm (UTC)
This is just icing on the I-hate-everything-today cake. Why are people so fucking gross? -_-
tabaqui 27th-Nov-2012 05:45 pm (UTC)
Wow, guy. Fuck you so hard.
little_rachael 27th-Nov-2012 05:48 pm (UTC)
This is sickening and really fucking insensitive. May all the victims rest in peace.
wrestlingdog 27th-Nov-2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
redstar826 27th-Nov-2012 07:16 pm (UTC)
The frustrating thing is, people who are active in anti-sweatshop movements have been talking about things like fire safety for ages now and they just get ignored. I've heard workers' rights groups, including those that work in Bangladesh, raise this issue on multiple occasions.
thelilyqueen 28th-Nov-2012 02:41 am (UTC)
Seems to be the story all too often. People close to a problem try to get some attention brought to it, nothing happens, there's a tragedy that makes it into the mainstream news for whatever combo of reasons, and the general populace is *shocked, just shocked*. Long term thinking, how does it work?
furrygreen 27th-Nov-2012 08:28 pm (UTC)
Wait, what? Oh, god! That's horrible!
moonbladem 27th-Nov-2012 09:34 pm (UTC)
During his defense of the factory, Payne referred to himself as “a spokesman for capitalism and the American Dream” and said “for a lot of people, this [Walmart business practice] is a step in the right direction.”

Not for me, doucheface. This is no way a step in the right direction! 129 people burnt to death... 129, you fucking sociopath! Seriously, fuck you and the heartless corporations you speak for.
bushy_brow 28th-Nov-2012 01:05 am (UTC)
THIS! If corporations are "people", then they're the worst kind of people -- the kind we put in jail. BP's being brought up on criminal charges is a step in the right direction, IMO, not THIS.
free_spoons 27th-Nov-2012 09:41 pm (UTC)
While I don't doubt there were workers who were happy to have those jobs, I THINK THEY'D ALSO RATHER BE ALIVE RIGHT NOW ASSHOLE
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