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Mod Post: Moment of Truth

1:09 pm - 12/08/2012


Early Tuesday morning it was brought to our attention that koken23 was not who she was claiming to be, an accusation that was proven to be true within minutes.

She quickly released a statement:

"Jules is fictional. She's a character in a novel I've been writing - a younger version of the novel character - and I made this blog to flesh her out, to see if I could get into her head. Along the way, she became a sort of escape for me".

Thus, she was removed from her responsibilities as a moderator for not being real.

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darth_eldritch 9th-Dec-2012 01:58 am (UTC)
My mother did this shit, except she posed as a male fighter pilot online and managed to dupe a lot of people into revealing thier own feelings, including vets, military wives, people in the service. She had everything well researched and had notes and everything on the character she built to make him authentic. She even relied on my dad for details on military jets and fighters so she could really fake knowing the technical stuff and what it's like being a pilot.

Really fucked up. She did it for the hell of it.

And she always criticized me for playing RPGs. At least at our games we knew who we were and weren't duping anyone.
idemandjustice 9th-Dec-2012 03:06 am (UTC)
This always amazes me, because I just tend to assume people are honest until proven otherwise.

Your last sentence is pretty much what I was mentioning as well!
darth_eldritch 9th-Dec-2012 03:38 am (UTC)
Seriously. I can't comprehend the time and energy put into a fabricated persona like that. Or the reasons why to do it, unless it is to gain sympathy, which this person seems to be doing in a lot of the links shown here. Or to be someone they will never be in real life? I don't even know.
serendipity_15 9th-Dec-2012 03:17 am (UTC)
She did it for the hell of it.

....So basically she was bored one day and decided that this was a totes awesome idea???
darth_eldritch 9th-Dec-2012 03:34 am (UTC)
Yep. I couldn't fucking believe it.
serendipity_15 9th-Dec-2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
Hearing all these stories makes me think that I should reconsider my general philosophy of thinking that people are honest about themselves online (at least the basics like gender, what country you grew up in, ect) until it's proven that they're not being truthful.
darth_eldritch 10th-Dec-2012 02:42 am (UTC)
I think this stuff goes on all the time, to some extent or another. TBH, I'm not surprised something like this happened.
the_physicist 9th-Dec-2012 02:08 pm (UTC)
I was fooled for years by someone online who created a fake persona as a doctor. D:

It was all pretty terrible.

And hearing there are more people like her out there makes me not want to post online at all. But then I also remember all the real friendships with real people that i have made, who don't lie online, but instead use the opportunity to be more themselves.
darth_eldritch 9th-Dec-2012 02:29 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry :( *hugs* if you want them.

Having seen my mother do that early, before I got active online, and knowing some people in rl RPG groups who spun some wild stuff about their own lives, I've been pleasantly surprised by how many people who are real online and don't need to resort to lies. I've made some really good friends online.
the_physicist 9th-Dec-2012 02:45 pm (UTC)
We were a very close knit community online and her making up everything about her life while the rest of us were all sharing so much of our real lives with this fake person? Urgh. She was the root admin too and we had to delete everything - luckily she had no clue at all about actually being an admin in a tech sense. But yeah, it was the beginning of the end for our forum. A fair few couldn't trust again and withdrew from posting. I shared private stuff with her about medical conditions just before she was exposed, but one of the other admin was going through chemo for years and the whole time the faker had the gall to play along being a doctor and yeah... She just made up this awesome life of young Australian medical student, then doctor who saved so many people's lives, rode a motorbike, surfed etc - with the odd horrific personal tragedy throw in when an excuse was needed to explain things, such as not turning up when her online boyfriend flew to Sydney to meet her etc. (several couples in the community got married, have kids together, live together now... so yeah, lots of real, good people online. The snakes are horrible though)
darth_eldritch 9th-Dec-2012 03:08 pm (UTC)
OMG, that's horrible. People like that playing with other people's lives. And ruin a close knit community like that. I guess fakers like that need therapy for whatever, because it isn't healthy, but I don't have sympathy for them when they ruin what's good for others with their games and betray the trust of others.
the_physicist 9th-Dec-2012 03:46 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the worst thing she did I don't even want to say as it enrages me so much. She got so much trust and deserved none of it.

That she is in serious need of therapy is definitely the most charitable thought I can have about her as to why she did what she did. :-/
darth_eldritch 9th-Dec-2012 04:11 pm (UTC)
*HUGS* again. No one like that deserves trust.

I'll say they need therapy, but for all the damage they do it's only to make them stop these sick games hurting others. I honestly don't care how they feel or what their problem is. There are many other, honest ways to get the support and attention they need.
the_physicist 9th-Dec-2012 05:28 pm (UTC)
I think if she hadn't screwed over others I might feel sad for someone like that. But yeah...

I understand wanting to escape reality, but there are ways to do that without deceiving people about being a doctor.

also I guess can't quite grasp really wanting to be seen as someone you're not because of my personal experiences of having to hide who I am IRL. Online I feel safer to be honest.
ennifer_jay 10th-Dec-2012 08:03 pm (UTC)
I've had that happen to me a few times as well. It causes a unique form of hurt and pain.
the_physicist 10th-Dec-2012 08:41 pm (UTC)
sorry you encountered people like that too. -_-
wrestlingdog 9th-Dec-2012 03:44 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I had an aunt who was a pathological liar. She claimed she was pregnant for waaaayyy too long for it to even resemble the truth (like, a year or some shit) and then swindled another one of my relatives out of a shitton of money. I don't even know all the details.
darth_eldritch 9th-Dec-2012 04:05 pm (UTC)
Wow!

I've known so many of these liars it's not even funny. At the best they are boring and pathetic, and the worst, my god, manipulative as hell.
empirebird 9th-Dec-2012 07:30 pm (UTC)
you mother is a psycho, man. smh
darth_eldritch 9th-Dec-2012 07:37 pm (UTC)
She's something all right.

I haven't spoken with her in years.
empirebird 9th-Dec-2012 07:42 pm (UTC)
good deal. she sounds toxic.
darth_eldritch 9th-Dec-2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
She's very toxic. I cut her out of my life as soon as I was able to be on my own.
empirebird 9th-Dec-2012 07:55 pm (UTC)
Good thing, I feel sorry for people who don't have that option. Toxic parents are legit the worst.
darth_eldritch 9th-Dec-2012 08:17 pm (UTC)
Thanks :)

It was difficult getting independent and I feel for those who haven't yet, or can't.
empirebird 9th-Dec-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
It's really sad.
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