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2 firefighters shot, killed while battling New York blaze

9:17 am - 12/24/2012


(CNN) -- At least two firefighters died when they were shot at the scene of a blaze in upstate New York on Monday, police said.
Two other firefighters were injured, police in Webster, New York, told reporters.

Authorities believe one or more shooters took aim at the firefighters after they left their vehicles, Police Chief Gerald Pickering said.
It was unclear whether there were any suspects.

"We have different individuals that were possible people with knowledge, but at this point I can't really comment," Monroe County Sheriff Patrick O'Flynn told reporters.

For hours, the gunfire stopped firefighters from working to extinguish the fire and forced police SWAT teams to evacuate homes in the area.

Firefighters first arrived before 6 a.m., said Rob Boutillier, Webster's fire marshal. By 9 a.m., flames had engulfed three houses and a vehicle, he said.

"It's still an active crime scene," Pickering said. "We have firefighters there at the location. It took a while to make it safe ... to put out the fires."

Doctors were treating the wounded firefighters Monday morning, said Teri D'Agostino, a spokeswoman for Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester, New York. They were in guarded condition, she said.

One firefighter escaped from the scene in his own vehicle about an hour after he was shot, then was taken to the hospital by an ambulance from another location, Boutillier said. He was listed in satisfactory condition, Boutillier said.

Another wounded firefighter was conscious and speaking when he was removed from the scene, Boutillier said.

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____jonas 24th-Dec-2012 05:17 pm (UTC)
Their poor families. I hope the two that survived make a full recovery.

And I assume we'll be arming firefighters now? This shit is ridiculous.

Edited because I apparently fail at grammar.

Edited at 2012-12-24 05:45 pm (UTC)
kangofu 24th-Dec-2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
I honestly just can't even and I just...

Wut...

What...

Wat...
yamamanama 24th-Dec-2012 05:50 pm (UTC)
It wouldn't surprise me at all if the shooter started the fires in the first place.
ladygoddess 24th-Dec-2012 05:51 pm (UTC)
That was the most recent theory I read on CNN (?).
hammersxstrings 24th-Dec-2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
It's Christmas Eve, ffs, what....
oceandezignz 24th-Dec-2012 05:53 pm (UTC)
Just saw an update on AP's twitter feed. Gunman's dead, the firefighters were victims of a trap.

#fuckeverything
bellichka 24th-Dec-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
This is local news for me, so it's crazy to see it on _P.

I had thought the first was maybe to cover up a crime scene, and then the shootings to prevent the fire from doing its job, but local PD are thinking that the fire was set as a trap to target first responders. :(

The shooter is also confirmed dead.

For updates, I'd check out @13Wham and @EvanDawson on Twitter.
starsinshapes 24th-Dec-2012 06:25 pm (UTC)
Same. I'm a rochester native, still living here, so waking up to this news was heart-wrenching
bellichka 24th-Dec-2012 06:06 pm (UTC)
It's also crazy for me to see the local media reaction to the deaths.... many of the journalists reporting on the shootings/fire have interacted personally for years with the injured & dead... Evan Dawson just interviewed one of the dead last week regarding scams which target senior citizens. The reporters are very much in shock and disbelief, and it's been heartbreaking to see. Rochester is home to a host of fucked up stuff, but this takes the cake.
ahria 24th-Dec-2012 06:11 pm (UTC)
That's so sad. Those poor people and families. *sigh* I hope 2013 is better for everyone, every where.
theloudcafe 24th-Dec-2012 06:18 pm (UTC)
My thoughts and prayers with those firefighters' families. This is dreadful.
ragnor144 24th-Dec-2012 06:27 pm (UTC)
And the news item above this one for me is that there is a petition at Whitehouse.gov that has surpassed 25,000 signatures to have Piers Morgan (not a fan, but still) deported for supporting gun control.
poetic_pixie_13 24th-Dec-2012 06:56 pm (UTC)
poetic_pixie_13 24th-Dec-2012 06:57 pm (UTC)
So, the whole thing about this possibly being a trap.

I can't. It's Christmas Eve, I can't.
bellichka 24th-Dec-2012 07:15 pm (UTC)
I know :( It's awful. At least the other two look like they're going to make it, and the shooter is dead. But it's so macabre to see footage of one of the officers who was killed, he was on the news a week ago, and it's like.... he had no idea what was going to happen to him. None of them did. And none of us know what is going to happen to us, or when.... and that thought? Is fucking terrifying. And I'm tired of living in fear. I mean, this is a good town... I go to the movie theater there, or the Thai place, or the fucking Hobby Lobby and Wegmans. And the idea that this kind of bullshit can go down there, it's like... where are we safe? We're not.
sihaya09 24th-Dec-2012 07:06 pm (UTC)
Totally fucking heartbreaking. Their poor families.
baka_tenshi 24th-Dec-2012 07:18 pm (UTC)
i can still barely wrap my mind around the newton shootings and then what happened in PA and now. jesus christ.
doverz 24th-Dec-2012 07:22 pm (UTC)
You know what the solution is???? ARMING FIREFIGHTERS!!!!!!
baka_tenshi 24th-Dec-2012 07:23 pm (UTC)
armed guards for the firefighters!!!!11
bellichka Update24th-Dec-2012 07:28 pm (UTC)
According to local PD, the fire was a trap, set by the homeowner, who was also the shooter. He has a criminal history, and was convicted in the 80s for killing his grandmother. His sister, who lived in the home as well, is currently unaccounted for.

Seven home total were destroyed, so please keep those families in your thoughts.
wikilobbying 24th-Dec-2012 07:51 pm (UTC)
and to top it all off, it's christmas freaking eve and almost a new year. and now all the people and families involved have to deal with this. terrible doesn't even begin to describe this.
lunchy 24th-Dec-2012 07:49 pm (UTC)
Holy crap this is like 15 mins from my apartment. This is just too awful, on CHRISTMAS FUCKING EVE no less!
otana 24th-Dec-2012 07:50 pm (UTC)
I read this story out to my gf and she said she saw a similar plot in a movie once (gunmen shooting at firefighters) and laughed because she thought it was ridiculous because no one would shoot at firefighters, of all people.

This is heartbreaking.
betray802 25th-Dec-2012 02:35 am (UTC)
It was also an ep of Walker, Texas Ranger.
pandaeatworld 24th-Dec-2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
Humanity, what the fuck. Get it together. I don't know if the worlds gotten a whole lot worse in the last decade or if I'm just more aware but I cannot believe stuff like this happens....

It seems like every day brings another headline that makes me lose faith in my fellow human beings, and that's the one thing everyone should share faith in...
aviv_b 24th-Dec-2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
Jesus fucking Christ on a cracker. Merry Christmas, bah humbug.
bowling_otaku 24th-Dec-2012 08:59 pm (UTC)
What the actual fuck.
moonshaz 24th-Dec-2012 09:36 pm (UTC)
For hours, the gunfire stopped firefighters from working to extinguish the fire and forced police SWAT teams to evacuate homes in the area.



[Edited to change image, because I didn't realize how freaking ginormous that first one was going to be!]

Edited at 2012-12-24 09:39 pm (UTC)
cozmic_oceanz 24th-Dec-2012 09:40 pm (UTC)
what the everloving fuck =[
hey_kayla_jay 24th-Dec-2012 09:44 pm (UTC)
This has gotta be the most fucked up year regarding mass shootings to happen in a long time...
shadowwolf1321 24th-Dec-2012 10:26 pm (UTC)
This is like 1 1/2 hours away from me.


This has to be the most fucked up year.


dienaid 24th-Dec-2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
This happened in the place my friend grew up, on the street she grew up on. :/
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