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Hobby Lobby To Deny Contraception To Employees, Ignoring Court Order

12:11 pm - 12/29/2012
Craft store chain Hobby Lobby announced on Friday that it will ignore the ruling of U.S. courts and refuse to provide copay-free birth control access to its employees. It will do so despite whatever costs it may incur, even if they are higher than the cost of birth control itself.

Upon learning that Obamacare required employers and insurance companies to provide birth control with no cost to employees, Hobby Lobby sued, saying that, despite the secular nature of the business, the company’s owner’s religious objections should be taken into consideration. When a court denied that line of reasoning, Hobby Lobby took its grievances to the Supreme Court and asked for an injunction. The highest court in the land denied that request, telling Hobby Lobby that it must allow its employees access to birth control as it seeks further litigation.

But Hobby Lobby is saying no.

The store plans to ignore the provision anyway, opting to pay a fine instead of provide birth control, including the morning after pill commonly known as Plan B, which the owner feels goes against his personal religious values:

With Wednesday’s rejection of an emergency stay of that federal health care law by Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, Hobby Lobby and sister company Mardel could be subject to fines of up to $1.3 million a day beginning Tuesday.

“They’re not going to comply with the mandate,” said Kyle Duncan, general counsel of The Beckett Fund for Religious Liberty, which is representing the company. “They’re not going to offer coverage for abortion-inducing drugs in the insurance plan.”

As for the potential fines, Duncan said, “We’re just going to have to cross that bridge when we come to it.”

This ignores two obvious points — first, that Plan B is not an ‘abortion-inducing’ drug, as Hobby Lobby claims, and second, that the company may well end up paying more to avoid covering contraception than they would simply providing access. It also takes a twisted view on the ‘Freedom of Religion’ argument; the company is actually forcing its owner’s religious beliefs on all employees, no matter their personal religious views.

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archanglrobriel 29th-Dec-2012 05:31 pm (UTC)
Well good thinking Hobby Lobby - let's see how long your company can stay afloat while hemmoraging millions of dollars on a daily basis. Hey Hobby Lobby, you remember what hemmoraging is right? That's what happens to women when you make safe abortions and alternatives like the Plan B drug inaccessible to the women who need it.

I hope they start circling the drain in short order. I don't know that there's a company that could stand a siphon of over $365 million dollars a year and still keep the lights on. I'm going to be curious to see how long their "moral principles" will hold out once it becomes clear that this move is going to chuck their company into the dustbin. Not to mention seeing how far they get once they can no longer afford to pay their lawyers.
tabaqui 29th-Dec-2012 05:45 pm (UTC)
Hope they go out of business. Screw this jackass.
xo_bumblebee 29th-Dec-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
Yep and a bunch of people will probably quit. I know I would.
bellichka 29th-Dec-2012 05:51 pm (UTC)
UGH, Hobby Lobby, WHY are you the only place nearby that sells some of my craft supplies??? Looks like I'll be ordering online now.
bellichka 29th-Dec-2012 06:00 pm (UTC)
Annnnnd, email of disappointment informing them that I will no longer be patronizing their store.... sent.
oceandezignz 29th-Dec-2012 05:58 pm (UTC)
I feel blessed to not have to use Hobby Lobby for my craft supply purchases, as I have Michaels, JoAnns and Blick.

But fuck I'd love to walk into one of their stores at be all "SEE YA FUCKERS YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY OUT"

Of course this also solidifies my feelings that we need to drop "birth control" as the common name. "Period Regulator" or "Rag Stopper" "Ovulation Inhibitor" - anything but "birth control" because stupid folks like this just automatically see the BIRTH part and just assume it to be ABORTION.
kagehikario 29th-Dec-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
I like this idea. I think a more clinical term that is inclusive of all the non-reproductive medical uses would be a good move.

That said, there should be NOTHING WRONG with medication to regulate your own reproductive system. I hate the idea of throwing the issue of sexual agency under the bus to negotiate with controlling assholes and convince them to stop fighting against access to basic medical services.
cozmic_oceanz 29th-Dec-2012 05:59 pm (UTC)
Wow, I don't throw around this word easily, but what utter idiots.
cinnamontoast 29th-Dec-2012 05:59 pm (UTC)
Glad I have local craft shops where I can shop. Never setting foot in a Hobby Lobby is something I'm very proud of.
peace_piper 30th-Dec-2012 07:24 am (UTC)
I know right? I've lived in small towns for the past five years, never heard or seen a Hobby Lobby.
violetrose 29th-Dec-2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
The store plans to ignore the provision anyway, opting to pay a fine instead of provide birth control, including the morning after pill commonly known as Plan B, which the owner feels goes against his personal religious values:

Your ~religious values~ are shitty and misogynistic. Claiming they come from your religion does not eradicate this fact. Dick.

Edited at 2012-12-29 06:06 pm (UTC)
moonbladem 29th-Dec-2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
Go ahead and go bankrupt... no skin off my nose.
executivehpfan 29th-Dec-2012 06:23 pm (UTC)
Fuck this place.
simply_blah 29th-Dec-2012 06:27 pm (UTC)
Not that they aren't complete and total jackasses, they are, but how would they know? Did I miss that?
quixotic_coffee 29th-Dec-2012 06:27 pm (UTC)
What a dumb ass. Does this guy's hatred for Obama and/or his wanting to make it as hard as possible for women to get b/c mean so much to him that he'll ruin his business and take his employees down with him?
jocelyncs 29th-Dec-2012 07:00 pm (UTC)
In a word: yes.
effervescent 29th-Dec-2012 06:30 pm (UTC)
Ugh, I ran across an entry elsewhere on LJ yesterday where someone was saying that they hope that Hobby Lobby sticks to their guns on this and that other companies follow their example. Because religious freedom, or whatever. Which makes me fume, because this is a large corporation, not one person! How does religious freedom even apply to a large business? I hate the arguments that a pharmacist can refuse treatment to a woman, for example, but I at least see the reasoning behind the argument because it's just one person. (Don't get me wrong, I still disagree, I'm just saying that I understand the argument they use in their defense.)

But just because the company was started by a religious person doesn't mean that everyone employed by them should be held to the same standard or religious expectations. That's forcing their religious beliefs on others, just like the article said. I hope this bankrupts them or they're forced to give in. Contraception is a valid medical treatment and should be treated that way.
thelilyqueen 29th-Dec-2012 06:58 pm (UTC)
To me, a big part of it is this: the compensation I receive -salary and benefits- from working I get to decide how to spend. If this didn't involve women's bodies, there wouldn't even be a debate. Can you imagine the outrage if Hobby Lobby and similar businesses tried to forbid their employees from using their salary to purchase Hindu religious materials because they'd feel like they were condoning idolatry?
kagehikario 29th-Dec-2012 06:32 pm (UTC)
Curious where all this fine money is going to go. Hopefully into public health care and paying for estrogen pills/ hormone regulators! :D (trying out words other than
Birth Controls for a test run...)
anjak_j 29th-Dec-2012 06:37 pm (UTC)
So not surprised by this. I figured some douchewad company would thumb its collective nose and decide to pay fines rather than pay for birth control, in the name of "sticking up for their principles" - even if the latter costs less. I really hope the principles of all decent USians lead them to buying their craft items elsewhere - that and the fines should force Hobby Lobby's asshole owners to either comply and provide birth control, or to sell up.

Just waiting now for a company to outright say it won't hire women to get around the birth control issue... unlikely because of the problems it would cause, but someone outright admitting to misogyny would be refreshing.
lovelokest 29th-Dec-2012 06:41 pm (UTC)
Ugh, I stepped inside a Hobby Lobby Thursday on the way home from work to see about buying a Tunisian crochet hook. Glad I ended up taking my business to JoAnn's.

Part of me wishes I lived on the side of town with two independent yarn stores, but part of me is really glad (namely, the pocketbook part - all those pretty, expensive, yarns just begging to be made into something).
365reasonswhy 29th-Dec-2012 06:43 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've spent some money in this store before on holiday decor and craft supplies. Won't be doing it anymore.
fenris_lorsrai FOR EXTRA FUCKERY...29th-Dec-2012 07:04 pm (UTC)
Hobby Lobby used to cover Plan B and Ella (another emergency contraceptive). when they reviewed their policies to comply with Obamacare, they REMOVED THAT COVERAGE.

So they had been providing it. ACA tells them they have to cover it. They remove that coverage and file with the Supreme Court about how its unfair they have to cover it.

PDF of Supreme Court case: scroll down to page 14 to see the relevant info


coraki Re: FOR EXTRA FUCKERY...29th-Dec-2012 08:15 pm (UTC)
o.O (to the owner) What a whiny brat! Oh the government says I have to do it! Well I'll show them!

There's some laws I don't necessarily agree with, but I have to follow them, just like everyone else. (I also hear everyday people complaining about their disagreement about the emission law for my state and how I'm a government worker who is stealing their hard earned money). *Rolls eyes* Of course Head of Ecology didn't make it easier for us.

Ok sorry got OT /csb
wikilobbying 29th-Dec-2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
that sure is a nice looking grave hobby lobby is digging for themselves.
kitschaster 29th-Dec-2012 07:34 pm (UTC)
I remember reading about their past fuckery from being overly religious. I haven't shopped there since, maybe, January because of it. And fuck them.
mskye 29th-Dec-2012 07:53 pm (UTC)
Hahahahahaha I bet that as soon as the fines become too much of a financial burden, they'll start providing birth control. Just wait.

And if not, holy shit. I've heard of a bunch of companies that hate women and/or Obama, but I've never heard of a company that hates them more than they love money. This is some crazy nose-cutting shit right here.
baka_tenshi 29th-Dec-2012 09:40 pm (UTC)
saw that earlier on twitter. i hope it bites them in the place worse than anywhere else - their wallets.
wordnerd98 29th-Dec-2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
I have never heard of this place until this entire mess and I'm going to say I'm glad there don't appear to be any in California.

Idiots.
nonnycat 29th-Dec-2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
They're mostly a Southern chain. (When I lived in TX, they were sadly one of the best stocked craft shops around.)
karma_aster 29th-Dec-2012 11:23 pm (UTC)
Yep. I do believe MY personal beliefs are telling me to take my business elsewhere. Enjoy filing for bankruptcy, asshats!
bowtomecha 29th-Dec-2012 11:42 pm (UTC)
What would be great is if any company found in violation gets part of the fine money put into a fund for the employees to pay for their insurance's coverage of their birth control. Hahaha.
mollybarton 30th-Dec-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
Hope they get fined until they go bankrupt! More business for JoAnn, AC Moore, and Michaels. I stopped shopping at Hobby Lobby a year ago when I learned more about their crappy beliefs, and haven't looked back.
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