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Cantor opposes fiscal cliff bill.

4:15 pm - 01/01/2013
Posted by CNN Senior Congressional Producer Deirdre Walsh

Washington (CNN) – House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said Tuesday he opposes the Senate version of the fiscal cliff bill, as the hours wind down for the House to vote on a deal that would avert a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts.

"I do not support the bill," Cantor told reporters while leaving a House GOP meeting.

After the Senate passed the legislation in the early hours of the morning with 89 senators in favor of the deal, the ball is now in the House's court to act.

Cantor said no decisions have been made on the bill and leaders are looking for the best path forward.

House Speaker John Boehner and House GOP Whip Kevin McCarthy both declined to answer questions as they emerged from the meeting.

Spokesmen for Boehner and Cantor said in identical statements that the speaker and the leader "laid out options to the members and listened to feedback" in the meeting.

"The lack of spending cuts in the Senate bill was a universal concern amongst members in today’s meeting. Conversations with members will continue throughout the afternoon on the path forward," the statements read.

Meanwhile, several members said they were unsure whether the House would vote Tuesday.


EDIT: The House will vote Tuesday night on a Senate bill - an up or down vote - to avert the fiscal cliff, a senior House GOP leadership aide told CNN's Dana Bash.1

EDIT 2: 10:57 p.m. ET - The U.S. House of Representatives approves fiscal cliff deal, surpassing the 217 votes needed for passage. The final breakdown is 257 in support and 167 in opposition.
simply_blah I'll let Optimus Prime speak for me..1st-Jan-2013 11:05 pm (UTC)

Fucking vote yes or no already.
one_hoopy_frood 1st-Jan-2013 11:07 pm (UTC)

Saw this on a post about Congress on tumblr yesterday and I think it needs to be in every post about it. God. Fuck Republicans, fuck the tea party. I can't believe they're willing to fuck with everyone's livelihoods over a political game. I thought they had the decency to at least be posturing and holding out until the last minute because they couldn't be THAT stupid, but apparently even that was an overestimation.
simply_blah 1st-Jan-2013 11:13 pm (UTC)
I really just needed someone to share my rage with. Jesus-effing-Christ! Why the fuck do people keep voting for people like this? Shit. Damn.
one_hoopy_frood 1st-Jan-2013 11:25 pm (UTC)
I feel like my thoughts are just a never ending stream of fuuuuuuuuuuck whenever I read about these assholes.
thecityofdis 3rd-Jan-2013 12:07 am (UTC)
omg i can't stop laughing at that cake
layweed 1st-Jan-2013 11:08 pm (UTC)
Someone needs to make a Boehner&Cantor/Thelma&Louise "driving over the cliff" gif.
jasonbeast 1st-Jan-2013 11:18 pm (UTC)
Cantor would oppose oxygen if it were a Democratic priority.
serendipity_15 2nd-Jan-2013 12:54 am (UTC)
Someone should get on that. I really want to see him stop using up all the oxygen.
bleakwinters 1st-Jan-2013 11:28 pm (UTC)
Good job plunging the world back into recession, you fucking asshats.
veracity 2nd-Jan-2013 12:48 am (UTC)
So, can we fucking RECALL ALL THESE ASSHATS NOW - or make the next ones step in and take over?! This is the second goddamn year in a row where they'll willing to shit done because no one wants to play in their pissing contest. This is not a do-nothing Congress. Even do-nothings at least shit and wipe occasionally. These fuckers just sit in their soiled diaper.

Goddamn I'm tired of this shit. Really, really tired. It's not fucking entitlement when it's pay in. You want to add more money? TAX THE PEOPLE WITH MORE MONEY. This is not fucking brain surgery.

I might have some serious rage after thinking this shit was over last night.
agentsculder 2nd-Jan-2013 02:45 am (UTC)
The 113th Congress will be sworn in the next few days, but don't expect a whole lot to change. There will be a few less Republicans in the House, but until the Democrats have a majority there (which is going to take a long time to regain thanks to redistricting) it going to be very slow going.

Once again, I'd like to thank all the people who didn't bother to vote in 2010 because they didn't think it mattered for this huge congressional clusterfuck.
veracity 2nd-Jan-2013 03:25 am (UTC)
I know it won't be completely different but I think it'll have a little more balance in the House (not enough to move a salt shaker, I know, but still. It's a little more.) I don't understand why the redistricting is freaking allowed in this day in age, to be honest. It's a gross overuse of power. I kinda of wish that we the voters would have to vote on it. If only to get out opinion on the matter demonstrated.
moonshaz DEAR U.S. CONGRESS:2nd-Jan-2013 01:02 am (UTC)

Edited at 2013-01-02 01:02 am (UTC)
fight4thislove the whole gop tbh2nd-Jan-2013 01:27 am (UTC)
blackjedii 2nd-Jan-2013 01:34 am (UTC)

it is actually kind of funny in a sad-way that my entitled uncle who has never had to budget in his life and takes trips to Europe but can't be buggered to take care of his mother because she'd "make a mess" even though she is 89 and requires a great deal of help is all happy and proud of himself because ~Eric Cantor sends him letters~
simply_blah 2nd-Jan-2013 01:41 am (UTC)
OMG. This is great!
lady_grace 2nd-Jan-2013 02:08 am (UTC)
This is so frustrating. If they don't pass anything, I lose $40/month more in taxes. I don't make tons to begin with, so that would hurt. Sigh.
blackjedii 2nd-Jan-2013 02:10 am (UTC)
If they fail to pass anything they can blame it on Obama/dems when the economy worsens and 2016 rolls around
If they pass something they can thump their chests and talk about how they ~saved the economy~

It's a win-win to the extreme right and unfortunately, they have a deathgrip on the rest of em
lady_grace 2nd-Jan-2013 02:12 am (UTC)
And in the end, the middle and lower classes continue to get squeezed dry.
lady_grace 2nd-Jan-2013 02:13 am (UTC)
oops, should have been a reply to blackjedii.

Edited at 2013-01-02 02:13 am (UTC)
blackjedii 2nd-Jan-2013 02:15 am (UTC)
But no need to worry about them - the repubs have the gerrymandered district advantage until 2020 and the people in power are getting raises + government sponsored health insurance. So it's all good!
veracity 2nd-Jan-2013 03:27 am (UTC)
You know this is some fucked up shit when I'm looking at graduate schools for Fall 2014 based on location versus, you know, program.
blackjedii 2nd-Jan-2013 03:36 am (UTC)
Come to Blacksburg / Virgina Tech! We have the most bizarre weather around!

(seriously - I just went off on someone on Tumblr for using the excuse that polarization at a local level was to blame and Congress is only a reflection of its people. No it's not and that is the whole damn problem)
veracity 2nd-Jan-2013 03:49 am (UTC)
I'm from Atlanta. If there's not bizarre weather around, I won't feel comfortable at all.

If people don't have the flipping sense to realize how rigged this is....I just don't know what to do with them anymore. My House rep is Woodall. He sure as heck doesn't represent me. I've written him enough to let the man know. http://votesmart.org/candidate/122251/rob-woodall#.UOOuJ7b4-Ug
blackjedii 2nd-Jan-2013 03:53 am (UTC)
We had Boucher who was admittedly a Blue Dog at best but he did so much for this area. But he dared to vote/co-author a climate change bill that would have hit the coal area (which is dying anyway thanks to natural gas) so he was essentially doomed.
And now we have Morgan Griffith, who refused to vote for the debt ceiling because "there wasn't enough spending cuts." Because the US defaulting and pretty much ruining the world economy as it sunk is clearly a better option.
Also he voted every single time against net neutrality bills. Which was one of Boucer's main tenants. No love man. No love.

Edited at 2013-01-02 03:53 am (UTC)
veracity 2nd-Jan-2013 04:09 am (UTC)
There has to be thump test on the head of all these southern Reps who don't realize we ain't rich down here. As a whole, region is failing. Coal dying maybe a good thing. For one thing, stop stripping the land and let it heal. Maybe not have entire meals burn for years. (Just a thought, though.) Which all means cleaner air.

This is also the same state that brought Sonny Perdue (broke state? let's sue other ones! dumb chicken man), Zell Miller (baaad for the most part), Nathan Deal and of course....Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isaakson. I never figured out by Mark Taylor never won since he was smart. I knew him since his daughter went to school with me and we were given a tour of the Capitol around elementary age.

blackjedii 2nd-Jan-2013 04:17 am (UTC)
Oh it's definitely all stupid. And unlike NoVa / Richmond / Norfolk / etc., Southwest Virginia gets very little in terms of financial aid. We had a tornado outbreak that affected Pulaski County and McDonnell didn't really make all that much of a fuss of helping the people there.

I think there's definitely some room for economic improvement and Boucher did actually bring in technical jobs, even if they were just thing like Echostar, etc. But I don't expect coal to last and I don't really think we should be angry at our representatives for it - I think we should be looking to them to find a replacement. Virginia Tech brings in TONS of business and that spreads outwards. There's a region in West Virginia that has really overhauled itself by selling the area as 4-Wheeler trails and historical paths. There's something here, it's just finding and investing in it.
veracity 2nd-Jan-2013 04:31 am (UTC)
I'm in metro Atlanta, and we get the lion's share of everything, but there's a lot of regions that need some serious help. (Outside Atlanta's issues, which are vast). I'm not surprised that money didn't trickle down. It rarely does or will. It's only areas that pay the coffers that gets anything.

I think we need to start looking outside the box, as a nation. There are options there but we're stuck in the same old schtick. Coal can't last forever as technology and areas are stripped. Our reps need to really look at ways to improve life rather then writing their names in snow. You have to look at the best thing for the community in order to create a more stable area that will keep you in versus some overtly shady actions.
blackjedii 2nd-Jan-2013 04:38 am (UTC)
Oh I think we need a massive infrastructure / energy overhaul and FAST.
There's a town in Germany that prouduces over 300x the energy they need. I really see no reason we can't do the same.

As for investing in folks - oh yes. It's sad because when I look back compared to my fellow graduates from high school I was over-educated. But when I got to college there were plenty of classes where I was average. Because my high school was so, so behind the curve in terms of teaching us the basics and getting people out understanding that stuff. It's crazy and pointless because it just turns into the vicious cycle of Uneducated Masses Beget Uneducated Masses. o.o

Edited at 2013-01-02 04:38 am (UTC)
veracity 2nd-Jan-2013 04:52 am (UTC)
BRB, moving to that town. Seriously, that's a smart, well thought out and planned decision to make things cheaper. Imagine how much easier it'd be in some of the mountain areas of Virgina when the power dies because yet another storm. (My godmom's son lives near Glasgow.) We should be able to do something similar - start small and go bigger as kinks are worked out.

I was smarter than a good 95% of my classmates simply because I was a book reader. I learned more from that than anything in class. We were so far behind. Our US history ended at Korea. Notice we never really touched any of those pesky social issues of the 60s and 70s at all. I still think I have trouble with math because I can't understand it given the way our education was set up. We went Algebra I, Geometry, Alge II...while our sciences were bio, chem, physics. I had to take two semesters of dumb math to catch up. I say dumb math because it was beyond Math for Dummies type education. The same reason my grammar is shot. I gave up caring when my teachers gave up teaching.
jadehunter 2nd-Jan-2013 03:59 am (UTC)
blackjedii 2nd-Jan-2013 04:39 am (UTC)
I should add while I'm at it -

At least this time it seems like genuine spite, as opposed to the debt ceiling where Eric Cantor was poised to make billions if the US defaulted.

simply_blah 2nd-Jan-2013 05:14 am (UTC)
I agree.
pennylane101 2nd-Jan-2013 02:45 pm (UTC)
he's gay, right?

whenever i see him i get SUCH vibes from him omg
wrestlingdog 2nd-Jan-2013 11:11 pm (UTC)

Of fucking course he did.

Edited at 2013-01-02 11:48 pm (UTC)
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