ONTD Political

STEPHEN IRA BEATTY, a junior at Sarah Lawrence College, uploaded a video last March on We Happy Trans, a site that shares “positive perspectives” on being transgender.

In his video, Stephen Ira Beatty declared himself “a queer, a nerd fighter, a writer, an artist and a guy who needs a haircut.”

In the breakneck six-and-a-half-minute monologue — hair tousled, sitting in a wood-paneled dorm room — Stephen exuberantly declared himself “a queer, a nerd fighter, a writer, an artist and a guy who needs a haircut,” and held forth on everything from his style icons (Truman Capote and “any male-identified person who wears thigh-highs or garters”) to his toy zebra.

Because Stephen, who was born Kathlyn, is the 21-year-old child of Warren Beatty and Annette Bening, the video went viral, garnering nearly half a million views. But that was not the only reason for its appeal. With its adrenalized, freewheeling eloquence, the video seemed like a battle cry for a new generation of post-gay gender activists, for whom Stephen represents a rare public face.

Armed with the millennial generation’s defining traits — Web savvy, boundless confidence and social networks that extend online and off — Stephen and his peers are forging a political identity all their own, often at odds with mainstream gay culture.

If the gay-rights movement today seems to revolve around same-sex marriage, this generation is seeking something more radical: an upending of gender roles beyond the binary of male/female. The core question isn’t whom they love, but who they are — that is, identity as distinct from sexual orientation.

But what to call this movement? Whereas “gay and lesbian” was once used to lump together various sexual minorities — and more recently “L.G.B.T.” to include bisexual and transgender — the new vanguard wants a broader, more inclusive abbreviation. “Youth today do not define themselves on the spectrum of L.G.B.T.,” said Shane Windmeyer, a founder of Campus Pride, a national student advocacy group based in Charlotte, N.C.

Part of the solution has been to add more letters, and in recent years the post-post-post-gay-rights banner has gotten significantly longer, some might say unwieldy. The emerging rubric is “L.G.B.T.Q.I.A.,” which stands for different things, depending on whom you ask.

“Q” can mean “questioning” or “queer,” an umbrella term itself, formerly derogatory before it was appropriated by gay activists in the 1990s. “I” is for “intersex,” someone whose anatomy is not exclusively male or female. And “A” stands for “ally” (a friend of the cause) or “asexual,” characterized by the absence of sexual attraction.

It may be a mouthful, but it’s catching on, especially on liberal-arts campuses.

The University of Missouri, Kansas City, for example, has an L.G.B.T.Q.I.A. Resource Center that, among other things, helps student locate “gender-neutral” restrooms on campus. Vassar College offers an L.G.B.T.Q.I.A. Discussion Group on Thursday afternoons. Lehigh University will be hosting its second annual L.G.B.T.Q.I.A. Intercollegiate Conference next month, followed by a Queer Prom. Amherst College even has an L.G.B.T.Q.Q.I.A.A. center, where every group gets its own letter.

The term is also gaining traction on social media sites like Twitter and Tumblr, where posts tagged with “lgbtqia” suggest a younger, more progressive outlook than posts that are merely labeled “lgbt.”

“There’s a very different generation of people coming of age, with completely different conceptions of gender and sexuality,” said Jack Halberstam (formerly Judith), a transgender professor at the University of Southern California and the author, most recently, of “Gaga Feminism: Sex, Gender, and the End of Normal.”

“When you see terms like L.G.B.T.Q.I.A.,” Professor Halberstam added, “it’s because people are seeing all the things that fall out of the binary, and demanding that a name come into being.”

And with a plethora of ever-expanding categories like “genderqueer” and “androgyne” to choose from, each with an online subculture, piecing together a gender identity can be as D.I.Y. as making a Pinterest board.

BUT sometimes L.G.B.T.Q.I.A. is not enough. At the University of Pennsylvania last fall, eight freshmen united in the frustration that no campus group represented them.

Sure, Penn already had some two dozen gay student groups, including Queer People of Color, Lambda Alliance and J-Bagel, which bills itself as the university’s “Jewish L.G.B.T.Q.I.A. Community.” But none focused on gender identity (the closest, Trans Penn, mostly catered to faculty members and graduate students).

Richard Parsons, an 18-year-old transgender male, discovered that when he attended a student mixer called the Gay Affair, sponsored by Penn’s L.G.B.T. Center. “I left thoroughly disappointed,” said Richard, a garrulous freshman with close-cropped hair, wire-framed glasses and preppy clothes, who added, “This is the L.G.B.T. Center, and it’s all gay guys.”

Through Facebook, Richard and others started a group called Penn Non-Cis, which is short for “non-cisgender.” For those not fluent in gender-studies speak, “cis” means “on the same side as” and “cisgender” denotes someone whose gender identity matches his or her biology, which describes most of the student body. The group seeks to represent everyone else. “This is a freshman uprising,” Richard said.

On a brisk Tuesday night in November, about 40 students crowded into the L.G.B.T. Center, a converted 19th-century carriage house, for the group’s inaugural open mike. The organizers had lured students by handing out fliers on campus while barking: “Free condoms! Free ChapStick!”

“There’s a really vibrant L.G.B.T. scene,” Kate Campbell, one of the M.C.’s, began. “However, that mostly encompasses the L.G.B. and not too much of the T. So we’re aiming to change that.”

Students read poems and diary entries, and sang guitar ballads. Then Britt Gilbert — a punky-looking freshman with a blond bob, chunky glasses and a rock band T-shirt — took the stage. She wanted to talk about the concept of “bi-gender.”

“Does anyone want to share what they think it is?”

Silence.

She explained that being bi-gender is like manifesting both masculine and feminine personas, almost as if one had a “detachable penis.” “Some days I wake up and think, ‘Why am I in this body?’ ” she said. “Most days I wake up and think, ‘What was I thinking yesterday?’ ”

Britt’s grunginess belies a warm matter-of-factness, at least when describing her journey. As she elaborated afterward, she first heard the term “bi-gender” from Kate, who found it on Tumblr. The two met at freshman orientation and bonded. In high school, Kate identified as “agender” and used the singular pronoun “they”; she now sees her gender as an “amorphous blob.”

By contrast, Britt’s evolution was more linear. She grew up in suburban Pennsylvania and never took to gender norms. As a child, she worshiped Cher and thought boy bands were icky. Playing video games, she dreaded having to choose male or female avatars.

In middle school, she started calling herself bisexual and dated boys. By 10th grade, she had come out as a lesbian. Her parents thought it was a phase — until she brought home a girlfriend, Ash. But she still wasn’t settled.

“While I definitely knew that I liked girls, I didn’t know that I was one,” Britt said. Sometimes she would leave the house in a dress and feel uncomfortable, as if she were wearing a Halloween costume. Other days, she felt fine. She wasn’t “trapped in the wrong body,” as the cliché has it — she just didn’t know which body she wanted.

When Kate told her about the term “bi-gender,” it clicked instantly. “I knew what it was, before I knew what it was,” Britt said, adding that it is more fluid than “transgender” but less vague than “genderqueer” — a catchall term for nontraditional gender identities.

At first, the only person she told was Ash, who responded, “It took you this long to figure it out?” For others, the concept was not so easy to grasp. Coming out as a lesbian had been relatively simple, Britt said, “since people know what that is.” But when she got to Penn, she was relieved to find a small community of freshmen who had gone through similar awakenings.

Among them was Richard Parsons, the group’s most politically lucid member. Raised female, Richard grew up in Orlando, Fla., and realized he was transgender in high school. One summer, he wanted to room with a transgender friend at camp, but his mother objected. “She’s like, ‘Well, if you say that he’s a guy, then I don’t want you rooming with a guy,’ ” he recalled. “We were in a car and I basically blurted out, ‘I think I might be a guy, too!’ ”

After much door-slamming and tears, Richard and his mother reconciled. But when she asked what to call him, he had no idea. He chose “Richard” on a whim, and later added a middle name, Matthew, because it means “gift of God.”

By the time he got to Penn, he had been binding his breasts for more than two years and had developed back pain. At the open mike, he told a harrowing story about visiting the university health center for numbness and having a panic attack when he was escorted into a women’s changing room.

Nevertheless, he praised the university for offering gender-neutral housing. The college’s medical program also covers sexual reassignment surgery, which, he added, “has heavily influenced my decision to probably go under the Penn insurance plan next year.”

PENN has not always been so forward-thinking; a decade ago, the L.G.B.T. Center (nestled amid fraternity houses) was barely used. But in 2010, the university began reaching out to applicants whose essays raised gay themes. Last year, the gay newsmagazine The Advocate ranked Penn among the top 10 trans-friendly universities, alongside liberal standbys like New York University.

More and more colleges, mostly in the Northeast, are catering to gender-nonconforming students. According to a survey by Campus Pride, at least 203 campuses now allow transgender students to room with their preferred gender; 49 have a process to change one’s name and gender in university records; and 57 cover hormone therapy. In December, the University of Iowa became the first to add a “transgender” checkbox to its college application.

“I wrote about an experience I had with a drag queen as my application essay for all the Ivy Leagues I applied to,” said Santiago Cortes, one of the Penn students. “And I got into a few of the Ivy Leagues — Dartmouth, Columbia and Penn. Strangely not Brown.”

But even these measures cannot keep pace with the demands of incoming students, who are challenging the curriculum much as gay activists did in the ’80s and ’90s. Rather than protest the lack of gay studies classes, they are critiquing existing ones for being too narrow.

Several members of Penn Non-Cis had been complaining among themselves about a writing seminar they were taking called “Beyond ‘Will & Grace,’ ” which examined gay characters on shows like “Ellen,” “Glee” and “Modern Family.” The professor, Gail Shister, who is a lesbian, had criticized several students for using “L.G.B.T.Q.” in their essays, saying it was clunky, and proposed using “queer” instead. Some students found the suggestion offensive, including Britt Gilbert, who described Ms. Shister as “unaccepting of things that she doesn’t understand.”

Ms. Shister, reached by phone, said the criticism was strictly grammatical. “I am all about economy of expression,” she said. “L.G.B.T.Q. doesn’t exactly flow off the tongue. So I tell the students, ‘Don’t put in an acronym with five or six letters.’ ”

One thing is clear. Ms. Shister, who is 60 and in 1979 became The Philadelphia Inquirer’s first female sportswriter, is of a different generation, a fact she acknowledges freely, even gratefully. “Frankly, I’m both proud and envious that these young people are growing up in an age where they’re free to love who they want,” she said.

If history is any guide, the age gap won’t be so easy to overcome. As liberated gay men in the 1970s once baffled their pre-Stonewall forebears, the new gender outlaws, to borrow a phrase from the transgender writer Kate Bornstein, may soon be running ideological circles around their elders.

Still, the alphabet soup of L.G.B.T.Q.I.A. may be difficult to sustain. “In the next 10 or 20 years, the various categories heaped under the umbrella of L.G.B.T. will become quite quotidian,” Professor Halberstam said.

Even at the open mike, as students picked at potato chips and pineapple slices, the bounds of identity politics were spilling over and becoming blurry.

At one point, Santiago, a curly-haired freshman from Colombia, stood before the crowd. He and a friend had been pondering the limits of what he calls “L.G.B.T.Q. plus.”

“Why do only certain letters get to be in the full acronym?” he asked.

Then he rattled off a list of gender identities, many culled from Wikipedia. “We have our lesbians, our gays,” he said, before adding, “bisexual, transsexual, queer, homosexual, asexual.” He took a breath and continued. “Pansexual. Omnisexual. Trisexual. Agender. Bi-gender. Third gender. Transgender. Transvestite. Intersexual. Two-spirit. Hijra. Polyamorous.”

By now, the list had turned into free verse. He ended: “Undecided. Questioning. Other. Human.”

The room burst into applause.

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star_riku 10th-Jan-2013 04:02 am (UTC)
Some of this...rubs me the wrong way.

But first and foremost, gay/lesbian/bi/pan/etc aren't gender identities. So um, no.

((I c&ped this comment since I had to log in and ended up replying under the wrong post. FAIL. OTL))
girly123 10th-Jan-2013 04:03 am (UTC)
Please let there be no asexual wank.

Pretty pretty please please.
nagasasu 10th-Jan-2013 04:51 am (UTC)
IDK if such a thing is possible here...
girly123 10th-Jan-2013 04:19 am (UTC)
Anyway, the framing of this article is really condescending. Perhaps I'm an aberration, but the first time I heard LGBTQIA was ten years ago. That's hardly the newfangled, conceived by Tumblr and totes like putting together a Pinterest board you guys!!1! idea of sexuality and gender identity that this article writer seems to have.

Also, the assertion that queer folks "appropriated" a slur that's been used against us is annoying me for reasons that I can't put my finger on. It's not technically incorrect, but...still.
kyra_neko_rei 10th-Jan-2013 04:35 am (UTC)
Also, the assertion that queer folks "appropriated" a slur that's been used against us is annoying me for reasons that I can't put my finger on. It's not technically incorrect, but...still.

I prefer the term "reclaiming."

I mean, it's a bit much to insist that people respect someone's insults of them. IMHO the people it describes have more of a claim to it than its originators, and deserve more of a say in what it should mean and how it should be used, and if they can manage to turn it around, more power to them. At least, that's my quick analysis; I can't think of any example where I think they shouldn't have that power if they can swing it.

Of course, people as a community end up having their own say in what words mean---I remember McDonald's trying to get "McJob" redefined in some dictionary as "an engaging career with excellent advancement opportunities" or similar, and the general public went "yeah, right" at them and went with its own opinion of the quality of McDonald's employment.

(And then of course the originators, if they can, may hang onto their own meaning of it---I can think of several words which can be both neutral-to-complimentary descriptors AND vicious insults, depending on who's using them and in what context.)

But "appropriated" doesn't seem right at all, especially since the power imbalance is pretty much the opposite of what usually constitutes appropriation.
kyra_neko_rei 10th-Jan-2013 04:23 am (UTC)
I've seen the acronym with the letters switched around to say QUILTBAG, which brings to mind the idea to describe the whole group of sexuality/gender non-normative people as "the quilt," as in a patchwork quilt with all these different colors, fabrics, patterns, to represent the different things, with some of the people being two or more nonexclusive things in it (silk and purple, for example, or diamond-shaped and blue and cotton). Different characteristics, representing orientation, gender identity, gender fluidity, and subgroups within the larger group.

Or something. *fond of analogies*
teacup_werewolf 10th-Jan-2013 04:37 am (UTC)
I like QUILTBAG too in some manner. It kinda explains a lot of the criss-crossing that happens.
teacup_werewolf My head is full of fuck10th-Jan-2013 04:34 am (UTC)
I have no idea how to formulate anything right now. I did read all of the article but there are a lot of things that bothered me and I have a lot of comments on my experiences. Mostly with my experiences with intersectionality and the over lap that occurs with gender/orientation.
cellared Re: My head is full of fuck10th-Jan-2013 04:48 am (UTC)
srsly

awareness of intersectionality in this article? zerooooo.
justspaz 10th-Jan-2013 04:55 am (UTC)
The article itself is problematic in the way it discusses things, but I go to Penn and I know some of the people interviewed (but I'm not going to elaborate on that, because it isn't my place) and I'm really glad that they are getting to frame at least part of the discussion because they are really awesome people and Penn really is, for all its flaws, a great institution in the regards of the intricacies of Gender and Sexuality.
nagasasu 10th-Jan-2013 06:46 am (UTC)
yeah, that was the same part I felt uncomfortable with
wikilobbying 10th-Jan-2013 06:36 am (UTC)
there are some things about this article bugging me, but it's not coming out coherently right now.

like, yeah a lot of things are changing, evolving, adapting, getting more recognized, expanding, but i don't like how certain terms and ideas are getting branded as new~. it kinda feels like they're making it out like my generation sort of owns these terms/ideas, when people in my age group were hardly the first ones to acknowledge and talk about and identify with sexuality identities outside of straight/gay and gender identities outside of cis and man/woman. there also doesn't seem to be any inclusion of intersectionality with race, ethnicity, or culture and gender identities, so they're missing out on a loooot there.

i can, however, relate to how i've learned and been exposed to a lot thanks to the internet. like, where i live, people might know what the word transgender means but they wouldn't know what the hell genderqueer or bigender or anything like that means. i had no idea those were actual concepts until i came across those terms on the internet and looked into them and started learning more about the different ways other people were identifying. and holy hell, i felt soooo much better about my feelings about my own gender because suddenly i knew i wasn't the only one.

idk my head is everywhere right now on this.
alryssa 11th-Jan-2013 07:32 am (UTC)
people might know what the word transgender means but they wouldn't know what the hell genderqueer or bigender or anything like that means. i had no idea those were actual concepts until i came across those terms on the internet and looked into them and started learning more about the different ways other people were identifying. and holy hell, i felt soooo much better about my feelings about my own gender because suddenly i knew i wasn't the only one.

No fucking kidding. It was such a fucking RELIEF, actually, to have an actual term that made sense to me after all these years of just feeling 'not normal'.
apostle_of_eris 10th-Jan-2013 06:43 am (UTC)
The whole area needs a little more PR savvy.
I've seen it as "quilt bag", but I really wish someone would come up with a graceful umbrella term that's shorter than the Gettysburg Address.
odannygirl7 10th-Jan-2013 10:25 am (UTC)
There's GSM ... Gender and/or Sexuality Minority.
anamatics 10th-Jan-2013 06:49 am (UTC)
Just eliminate the a all together. Allies don't need to be included under the queer umbrella unless, you know, they're queer identifying in some way already.
ebay313 11th-Jan-2013 02:42 am (UTC)
I understand including allies like if you have an lgbtqqia (or similar) group and the "a" is included to specifically make it clear that allies are welcome- it makes sense to clarify that for a group. That comes to mind for me because I think that was the context I first heard A being added for allies. But it never makes sense to me when people put an A for allies on there at all times- "ally" is not an oppressed group. And I also find it odd when certain people take on "ally" as a personal label/identity.
lizzy_someone 10th-Jan-2013 07:19 am (UTC)
This article has a ton of problematic stuff, but right now I just want to say, knock it off with the condescending tone toward Wikipedia as an educational resource on gender and sexuality. When I was fourteen, I was confused as fuck because in my whole life -- even as someone who read lots of books and had relatively liberal parents and lived in a liberal region and attended a liberal and academically rigorous school in the 2000's -- I had never learned that it was in fact possible to be attracted to members of more than one gender. So I was like, "WTF is the deal with your sexual orientation, Self, this makes no sense at all."

And then I found the Wikipedia article on bisexuality, and suddenly I could make sense of myself. I knew I wasn't the only person like me in the world, and that what I was feeling was real and navigable and had a name. I was not doomed to be an eternally unsolvable riddle, some bizarre unfathomable paradox.

I know someone who realized she was asexual when she encountered the word on TV Tropes. I'm sure there are bigender and genderqueer and genderfluid and all sorts of kids out there who are finally solving the mystery of their own identity when they stumble upon it on Wikipedia or TV Tropes or Tumblr or Pinterest or elsewhere on the internet. Just because Tumblr is relatively new and trendy doesn't mean people's sexual orientations and gender identities are. It just means that now they have a resource to understand themselves and know they're not alone, because traditional education sucks at that. We should be condescending to the curricula that only represent straight white cis people, we should be condescending to educators who fail to challenge that status quo, we should be condescending to any form of education that does not recognize the existence of sexuality other than straightness and gender that is not cis or binary. We should not be condescending to the emerging digital communities that recognize our children's existence when nobody else will.
poetic_pixie_13 10th-Jan-2013 04:51 pm (UTC)
I first come across the term pansexual while lookin' around on wiki and it just fit. It was also a starting point for a lot of trans and gender issues, including introducing me to terms like genderqueer which I really loved but didn't know why I did for a long time.

The internet has been so fantastic for queer and trans folks who aren't white cis and/or male. It's through it that I've been able to unlearn a lot of the racist/transphobic/sexist/homophobic/classist/ableist/etc shit that are still part of the queer community.
jazzypom putting the ONTD into P10th-Jan-2013 09:29 am (UTC)
That's why Benning dropped out of the Oscar race a couple of years ago. I heard it had something to do with her kid, but the rumours didn't say why. Now we know. #csb

nonnycat 10th-Jan-2013 09:33 am (UTC)
Language changes are interesting. Ten years ago, when I came out, "GBLT" was the most common acronym that I ran across. LGBT a close second. Nowadays, I've actually had people ask me why I use GBLT instead of LGBT or QUILTBAG or whatnot. Just habit, really. /random thought

The article overall is a freaking mess, though. I'm not sure where to begin. o.O
martyfan 10th-Jan-2013 10:36 am (UTC)
“This is the L.G.B.T. Center, and it’s all gay guys.”

LGBT groups are often for gay men and no one else, and often ignore the Ts? YOU DON'T SAY.
kishmet 10th-Jan-2013 10:44 pm (UTC)
THIS IS A REVELATION especially for anyone who's not a white gay dude

it's not like we're left out all the time at all
crossfire 10th-Jan-2013 05:02 pm (UTC)
piecing together a gender identity can be as D.I.Y. as making a Pinterest board

ಠ_ಠ

I don't even know what this article was trying to do, but I stopped reading there.

Also, author dudebro? We did not "appropriate" the term queer. We fucking reclaimed it, and I'll thank you to educate yourself enough to know the difference.
poetic_pixie_13 10th-Jan-2013 05:05 pm (UTC)
Please don't get me started on queer groups at universities/colleges.

DO NOT GET ME STARTED.

Having been really active in my uni's queer and trans group for the two years I've been here I've dealt with... a lot of interesting things. This is the first week of classes and already I've had to explain why me jokingly saying that I hate white people (or even if I'd meant it) in the lounge space that our group doesn't somehow make the space unsafe for white people. And that the idea of having to make a space safe for everyone doesn't mean making it safe for oppressive groups. And that the idea of her not liking being 'lumped in' with a group of 'bad' people is, like, a) my entire life b) kind of accurate since she benefits from white privilege and is currently being a shitty ally.

She, of course, didn't get it. White queers. I swear.

This is of course ignoring the huge amounts of transphobia that exist. No, having a few token trans events doesn't mean you're being supportive. Having a vigil for TDOR for two hours (where the execs of the group were there off-and-on and I was the only one talking to passersby about what the fuck we were doing) and organizing a meeting right after is not actually honouring anything. Not thinking about vital issues of safety and confidentiality is the opposite of what the group's supposed to do. Being unwilling to do what is right for our students by going against uni policy and standing by our actions is not what the group is supposed to do holy shit why do I need to explain this to people we as a group are supposed to do what our students need and what keeps them safe and say fuck the other shit because that's our fucking job goddammit why does this need explanation.

And downtown campus is even worse. The group is full of queer white cis dudes who have no idea about anything that doesn't involve queer white cis dude activities. There are two or three guys there who do get it (and I love to pieces) but they have classes and lives and can't do everything.

I'm bitter. I'm also really pissed. This idea that universities and colleges are these oases for queer and trans kids in a sea of homophobia and transphobia is such bullshit. Acknowledging the plethora of identities is fantastic. But constantly talking about all this is ridiculous, clinical academic language that ignores people's actual experiences and realities while also being inaccessible to anyone not taking women and gender studies is not the way to do that.

So many of these groups are so depoliticized and are about white cis queer dudes partying and hooking up. Which, y'know, isn't helpful for a lot of us. Socializing is good, but it's not the only thing we should be doing. Not everyone is magically accepted and safe and free now that they're out of high school. Most of us aren't. And I'm so tired of these platitudes about us all being human~ and having the same struggle because we don't and ignoring that is one of the most harmful things that is being done to queer and trans kids all over.
crossfire 10th-Jan-2013 05:15 pm (UTC)
And I'm so tired of these platitudes about us all being human~ and having the same struggle because we don't and ignoring that is one of the most harmful things that is being done to queer and trans kids all over.

Preach.

Also, I cannot with this assertion that it's somehow inconvenient to acknowledge that our movement is diverse. Or that it leads to internal conflict, because usually the internal conflict I see is BECAUSE we're not acknowledging our own diversity.
j_o_n_n_o 10th-Jan-2013 08:54 pm (UTC)
ugh @ the 'i.a' on the end. 'i' should be covered by 'q' and lol at 'a'.
kishmet 10th-Jan-2013 10:31 pm (UTC)
'i' stands for 'intersex' though afaik (and since I am it's an important point for me lol, because intersex experiences can be very different from others)
keestone 10th-Jan-2013 09:39 pm (UTC)
Everybody seems to have really good insightful comments that have said it all already, so I really only have two silly things to add:

1. The author of the article seems to be trying ridiculously hard to invent a generational difference when stuff like disrupting the idea of a gender binary has kind of been around for a while. (Seriously, just because you hadn't bothered to find out about something before doesn't mean it's a new trend, NY Times.)

2. What the hell is a "nerd fighter"?

On a more positive note, though, it does seem to me lately that at least a tiny bit more more mainstream attention is finally getting paid to positive representations of trans and other non-normative-gender people. And if Wikipedia and Tumblr help people figure out that they're not the only one, yay for Wikipedia and Tumblr. Looks like they're ahead of the New York Times in providing needed information.

Edited at 2013-01-10 09:43 pm (UTC)
kishmet 10th-Jan-2013 10:43 pm (UTC)
This is about what I'd expect for a mainstream piece on queer or trans issues that looks mostly at affluent white kids tbh. I mean at least they used the right pronouns and it's really sad that I'm grateful for that minor courtesy

I'm kinda surprised people here are complaining about the more inclusive acronym though. Undecided and questioning are legitimate personal labels in a society that shows cisgendered heterosexuality as the default, and 'intersex,' 'agender,' and 'androgynous' are all perfectly good labels encompassed by the 'i' and 'a'. Not to mention they bring in more gender identities that used to be swept up in the already-tacked-on 'trans'
staringiscaring 10th-Jan-2013 11:05 pm (UTC)
I'm surprised that this isn't the Onion.
violetrose 10th-Jan-2013 11:14 pm (UTC)
By now, the list had turned into free verse. He ended: “Undecided. Questioning. Other. Human.”

Oh God am I done with ~we're all human stop accentuating your differences!~ Please. We don't all have the same experiences, and I see nothing wrong acknowledging that fact. But I guess it hurts to burst their little bubbles by saying that. Poor babies.

Also, this question seems appropriate to ask in this post, but does anyone not particularly like the term queer? I've never been able to like it. It's still a slur where I live, and gets used as such. And considering it's primarily used against gay men here, I don't see it as reclaiming anything at all. I'm not bothered if other people like it, but I doubt I'll ever use it to describe myself.
staringiscaring 10th-Jan-2013 11:30 pm (UTC)
I agree. I use it on papers and in academia because its now an academic term and a recognizable umbrella word but I don't think reclaiming really works. I'm from hick country and its definitely not a reclaimed word here. I think that academics and activists only reclaimed it in their own circles.
bizwac 11th-Jan-2013 01:53 am (UTC)
Besides the other stuff people have said, it really rubbed me the wrong way how the author felt the need to say the trans peoples' former names. To me, it just seems like they put that in to titillate and be like "ooooh, this is their REAL name". Idk, I just found it gross and disrespectful.
Anyone else get that feeling?
girly123 11th-Jan-2013 02:54 am (UTC)
I did. It was really unnecessary.
ebay313 11th-Jan-2013 02:58 am (UTC)
“Q” can mean “questioning” or “queer,” an umbrella term itself, formerly derogatory before it was appropriated by gay activists in the 1990s.

Ok, this is kind of a silly comment but I had a coworker very recently ask me what the "q" and "i" where for. I said queer and intersex. I later said q can also be questioning- I've personally usually heard two qs used in that case- one for queer and one for questioning. It was kind of funny though because her response was "really? you sure? that doesn't sound right. Isn't that offensive to say?"
In my experience IRL most straight folks aren't too familiar with queer being reclaimed. I first learned about queer being used as an identity, and reclaimed when I was in high school (and I did learn this on lj!) and I remember not long after that there was this ridiculous initiative thing at my school about not using bad words and one that was focused on was queer and I was kind of annoyed having learned about it being reclaimed that the school was talking about it as only being a slur.
zaure 11th-Jan-2013 11:46 am (UTC)
Late, but:

Is anyone allowed to have trouble with gender?

I only ask because a lot of it confuses me, mostly because I was born blind, am visually impaired, and didn't get a decent look at my own body until I was 21 years old. I have to admit that a lot of the discussion of gender (particularly the genderqueer parts) seems to veer in some sort of ableist directions in that it requires a gender identity to be connected to how one looks/how one's body looks, whether one is happy with that or not. Even concepts like being cis, where your internal gender identity matches up with the one you were assigned at birth (most likely due to how your body looks): If someone is not aware of their own body in that way, or what different bodies look like/all the markers of gender (which, let's be real, are about 90% about looks), can they really be said to be cis if they don't even know or have any reference point for how gender acts in culture?

Also, not here for so much of the 'gender queering' suggesting that you queer/subvert gender solely via your looks.

Or are perhaps blind/the severely visually impaired just outside the whole thing? I try to understand, but I just don't. I respect people's gender identities, but some of the discussion and theory veers into 'oh, sighted people' at lot.

Genuine question because I have no idea how to handle a lot of this stuff because of my vision, but it seems not automatically 'getting' this stuff is bad.
nonnycat 11th-Jan-2013 06:03 pm (UTC)
Are you asking about how to handle gender issues in regards to others or yourself? I'm a little confused by your question here.
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