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Five Injured In Accidental Gun Show Shootings On ‘Gun Appreciation Day’

8:07 pm - 01/19/2013
As gun rights activists celebrated the turnout at gun shows for national Gun Appreciation Day Saturday, police responded to at least thee accidental shootings that left five people injured at shows across the country.

• In Indianapolis, a man shot himself when his gun went off outside a gun show. From WISH-TV:

A person who was loading a gun outside of the Indy 1500 Gun and Knife Show at the State Fairgrounds was accidentally shot when his gun discharged Saturday afternoon. ... The man, identified as Emory L. Cozee, 54, was walking back to his car, was loading his .45 caliber semi-automatic and accidentally shot himself in the hand, [police said.]

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mercystars 20th-Jan-2013 06:06 am (UTC)
heavily armed morons who know absolutely nothing of how to safely handle a gun, you say?

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eveofrevolution 20th-Jan-2013 06:29 am (UTC)
Ugh, fucking idiots. A gun should not be loaded unless you intend on firing it, and you should ALWAYS treat every gun as if it is loaded.

That said, I was just at a gun show a few weeks ago (my boyfriend has a couple for target shooting) and there were kids running around, sticking their fingers down or looking down the barrels of guns. I wish there was a way to mandate gun safety in gun enthusiasts' households, because it was really clear the parents just didn't give a crap.
hinoema 20th-Jan-2013 07:31 am (UTC)
I could not with that. I would be making with the handbag like Mrs. Crumplebottom.
cindyanne1 20th-Jan-2013 12:45 pm (UTC)
Now I have an urge to go to a gun show, stand around disapprovingly knitting a giant green and red something, and beating stupid people with my purse. I probably wouldn't get much knitting done at a gun show. T_T
bestdaywelived 20th-Jan-2013 02:30 pm (UTC)
That sounds like a great way to die.
hammersxstrings 20th-Jan-2013 09:03 pm (UTC)
Lmao
thelilyqueen 20th-Jan-2013 01:32 pm (UTC)
Yup. And alongside the rules you mentioned above, isn't there one about never pointing a gun at something you don't intend to shoot?
eveofrevolution 20th-Jan-2013 03:02 pm (UTC)
Yes, very true!
chaya 20th-Jan-2013 03:10 pm (UTC)
Don't point it at something you don't intend to shoot, always treat it as loaded, and use trigger discipline! To have an accident you pretty much have to break all three rules.
xballroomblitz 21st-Jan-2013 12:56 am (UTC)
I don't know if it's like a gun-owner wide rule, but when I was a kid, my dad had guns in the house. While he hide them away from us and kept the gun and the ammo separate, we were told if we were ever to find them, to not touch it, but if we had to move it, don't aim it towards ANYTHING that was living.

We were six and three, and we understood that. I don't understand how adults don't.
lizzy_someone 20th-Jan-2013 07:21 am (UTC)
It apparently was loaded, and while the exhibitor was looking at the gun, it accidentally went off

So....how's that "guns don't kill people, people kill people" thing working out for you?
alexvdl 20th-Jan-2013 09:41 am (UTC)
Well considering no one died, and all injuries were caused by people being irresponsible with guns...

I'd say that "guns don't kill people, stupidity kills people" would fit better.
homasse 20th-Jan-2013 03:26 pm (UTC)
But guns sure do help that stupidity along.
alexvdl 20th-Jan-2013 06:02 pm (UTC)
One of the privileges of living in the modern age is that we can do just about anything quicker, easier, and cheaper than we used to.
lizzy_someone 20th-Jan-2013 11:03 pm (UTC)
Yes, for example, transportation. Which is why driving and flying are subject to lots of regulations and restrictions. Another example: killing people. Which is why buying guns is...actually hardly restricted at all in some contexts...such as gun shows...where people have been shot...hmmm. Maybe we should do something about that.
alexvdl 20th-Jan-2013 11:39 pm (UTC)
Actually there are hardly any regulations and restrictions at all as to who can BUY airplanes or motor vehicles. To say that guns are hardly restricted at all is to ignore the laws currently on the books.

I'm not arguing for OR against gun control. I'm saying that if you're going to discuss guns you should do so without relying on logical fallacy.
lizzy_someone 20th-Jan-2013 10:28 pm (UTC)
It was sheer luck that nobody died here, there are plenty of similar incidents where guns went off accidentally and did kill people. The point is, "guns don't kill people, people kill people" implies that guns are only dangerous when used by people who want to kill others in the first place, but incidents like this one show that guns are dangerous even in the absence of human intent to kill. By your logic you could argue that the general public should be allowed to own nuclear bombs because nuclear bombs don't kill people, only people who handle nuclear bombs either maliciously or stupidly kill people.
alexvdl 20th-Jan-2013 11:31 pm (UTC)
There are plenty of things that are dangerous in absence of human intent to kill.

Setting up strawman is hardly conducive to a proper discussion. In this instance, in relation to THIS article, stupidity is far more dangerous than guns. Think of how many hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of guns were handled without incident. It was the stupid and the people around them who were punished.

Whether or not stupidity is ALWAYS more dangerous than guns is a different discussion completely.

Edited at 2013-01-20 11:41 pm (UTC)
mskye 20th-Jan-2013 08:00 am (UTC)
Honestly, I'm impressed that only five people got injured.
corbyinoz 20th-Jan-2013 10:07 am (UTC)
The Darwin Awards people just sat up, all bright-eyed and perky.
louisiane_fille 20th-Jan-2013 06:05 pm (UTC)
It's like the gun control talking points write themselves. *smh*
betray802 20th-Jan-2013 09:17 pm (UTC)
Just dragged out the rules of behavior from the last sci-fi convention I attended. PEACE-BONDED MEANS PEACE-BONDED, DAMMIT!!! My personal club even peace-bonds mock-up weapons, just to be on the safe side.

When geeks have better grasp of safety rules than the 'normal people' do ...
missmurchison 21st-Jan-2013 04:10 am (UTC)
Long ago, I ran a bookstore, and our adolescent customers were divided into kids buying science fiction and D&D stuff and kids in camo looking for Soldier of Fortune. I had quite a few parents come in worrying about the D&D kids (OMG, Satanism!), but I was the only one expressing concern about the Rambo worshippers. Thirty years later, the D&D crowd are mostly in cubicles making decent livings. The Rambos are creating headlines like the one in the OP.
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