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People wounded by gunman at community college in Houston

2:26 pm - 01/22/2013
Sheriff’s deputies were responding to reports that shots were fired at a Houston-area community college with multiple people wounded.

NBC station KPRC-TV reported that investigators were working to determine if there was an active shooter on the North Harris campus of Lone Star College.


Live aerial video taken by the station showed emergency crews moving two people on stretchers into ambulances.

Dozens of police vehicles were visible.

Police officers in SWAT gear were shown on the video entering buildings on the campus.

It was unclear how many people were injured or if the people seen on the stretchers had been shot.

At least one person has been detained at the college, deputy constables told KPRC, but they did not say if that person was suspected of shooting anyone.

Jed Young, a spokesman for the college system, told The Associated Place that a "shelter-in-place order" was issued at the college due to reports of a shooter on campus. Students, faculty and staff were advised by the college website to take immediate shelter where they were.

Lone Star College is a community college system based in the Houston region and has six campuses associated with it.

Harris County sheriff’s deputies told KPRC-TV that the shooting was reported shortly after noon CT at the North Harris campus.

Lone Star College's North Harris campus is 20 miles north of Houston in unincorporated Harris County. The campus has roughly 18,000 students.

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rjdaae 22nd-Jan-2013 07:34 pm (UTC)
More info from here.

At least two people were shot in a shooting at Lone Star College in north Houston, Texas. Witnesses on the scene say the shooting may have escalated after a heated argument. Both victims have “multiple gun shot wounds,” ABC13 reports, and are in serious condition. They will be brought into surgery. One of the victims — who was shot in the leg — is a school employee. The other, a younger man, was found on the ground unconscious, with his eyes closed.

The college, as well as other neighboring schools, are on lock down. Lone Star College has been evacuated and police are looking for the suspect who has fled the scene into a wooded area.

Witnesses report hearing at least 5 gunshots and say there may be two shooters, one of whom is in police custody. The other shooter ran from the library into an administrative building.
mollywobbles867 22nd-Jan-2013 07:47 pm (UTC)
I saw on MSNBC that there's speculation that there were two gunman who started shooting at each other. If that's the case, then the wounded were shot by stray bullets.

They just said that federal officials are saying there are indications that it was gang related.
hinoema 23rd-Jan-2013 04:47 am (UTC)
This illustrates my main argument against civilians carrying guns. Why swing a fist when you can start shooting in a moment of anger? Thousands of examples like this and zero to no examples of heroic shooter preventions prove the point.
spyral_path 22nd-Jan-2013 07:36 pm (UTC)
Texas is a state where anyone with an ID can buy a gun with no waiting period, and it's a conceal and carry state, so if the gun rights people are right, this shooting should not have been possible.
corroded_tears 22nd-Jan-2013 08:05 pm (UTC)
I' m a Texan gun owner (W&S hand pistol) and yeah, all I had to do was show my ID despite being a bipolar person in a wheelchair. I got it for safety and so far haven't had to use it sans when I used it ( unloaded) as a prop in my one woman show.


Incidents lke this shooting make me feel guilty and like maybe I'm "part of the problem"

(sorry ranting/rambling)
chaya 22nd-Jan-2013 09:38 pm (UTC)
Wait, how does the wheelchair enter into it?
fenris_lorsrai 22nd-Jan-2013 10:36 pm (UTC)
I am totally picturing them buying a gun and some armor so they now count as a very small tank.
corroded_tears 23rd-Jan-2013 08:01 pm (UTC)
LOL that would be a lot of fun but I'm a rather small woman with mobility and epilepsy problems so I'd have to hire someone to drive my tank for me and where's the fun in that if i can't fully enjoy it myself? heh


Although, I do own armor for my Lady Sif cosplay...hmmmm
zharia 22nd-Jan-2013 10:39 pm (UTC)
Or being bipolar.
jeweledvixen 23rd-Jan-2013 05:35 am (UTC)
Bipolar people are crazy, dontcha know? Can't have those mentally deficient whackadoodles running around with guns. Just those Amurikans with their arsenal in the basement, ready to defend their right to bear arms.
corroded_tears 23rd-Jan-2013 08:16 pm (UTC)
I had assumed that I would be turned away from buying/owning one because I'm mentally ill. Dunno where I got that idea but I just assumed that the clerk would go "says here that you're crazy so...NOPE! Get out of my store!" but, looks like I was wrong.
corroded_tears 23rd-Jan-2013 08:06 pm (UTC)
The recoil can be an issue since I'm either at the mercy of my wheelchair's (and on super!good days, my rollator) breaks or whatever is behind me and I could fall or hurt myself due to that. Luckily, my gun isn't enormous or super powerful so if it happens I peon ably won't get severely hurt but there's always that risk, y'know?
owl_eyes_4ever 23rd-Jan-2013 12:52 pm (UTC)
sans when I used it ( unloaded) as a prop in my one woman show.

Isn't the first rule of gun safety that the gun is ALWAYS loaded?
corroded_tears 23rd-Jan-2013 08:12 pm (UTC)
The rule is to keep it unloaded until you require it but to always treat it like it is fully loaded.

I'll admit that when I used it as prop last November and December that I flailed it and whipped it about when I was onstage but I make sure that the programs said in big,bold letters that the gun was empty/unloaded. It wasn't an easy production but I had warnings on addition slips/programs/the announcer even reminded the audience. Foolish and dumb? Yes. Important to the story I was telling? Sorta.
nitasee 22nd-Jan-2013 08:01 pm (UTC)
I was just trying to post this. We need a tag for "here we go again".
moonshaz 22nd-Jan-2013 08:36 pm (UTC)
Well, we do have "oh not this shit again." Which I think is highly appropriate in this case!
nitasee 22nd-Jan-2013 10:10 pm (UTC)
Glad to know. I didn't see it, but I wasn't looking in "o".
nitasee 22nd-Jan-2013 08:02 pm (UTC)
Not only to I know where that campus is, I know two people who teach there. Not to mention that the daughter of a co-worker attends school there.

Too fucking real, people.
foureyedgirl 22nd-Jan-2013 08:09 pm (UTC)
I was there a couple of years ago for a lecture with a school group. It's a bizarre feeling when it's close(r) to home.
hirolin 22nd-Jan-2013 08:15 pm (UTC)
My thoughts exactly. I hope the people you know are okay!
nitasee 22nd-Jan-2013 08:27 pm (UTC)
From what I'm hearing on the news, I think they're both fine...physically. But that's got to unnerve any one that close.
corroded_tears 22nd-Jan-2013 08:10 pm (UTC)
I took classes there in high school/the summer before I started at UH.... I feel bizarre and unsettled because I have cousins who attend sects or North Harris/Lone star CC. Just.... Fuck. I never feel anything in regards to other instances of gun violence and such but right now I'm texting my cousins frantically and the wondering is agony. I know Houston is a crime ridden city but yeah...

FUCK.
corbyinoz 22nd-Jan-2013 08:57 pm (UTC)
I don't know you, and I apologise if I'm off the mark here - but I read your comment with some concern. I live half a world away and I feel for the victims of gun violence in the US. Is your comment 'I never feel anything in regards to other instance to gun violence and such' a common reaction? Maybe that's part of the problem? Maybe there's a desensitisation at work amongst too many people in the US when it comes to shootings?

Edited at 2013-01-22 08:57 pm (UTC)
corroded_tears 22nd-Jan-2013 09:10 pm (UTC)
It's okay. I'm cool and unoffended. I know I'm rather cold and mildly apathetic to a lot of things in the world and I know it's an issue that I need to work on. It's not so much being desensitized for me but more just complete apathy. I'm working on it,though, with my therapist.
ragnor144 22nd-Jan-2013 09:34 pm (UTC)
I am bipolar too and that is sometimes my reaction. Other times it is the opposite like crying for says over Sandy Hook. Some of it might come with the bipolar territory.
corbyinoz 23rd-Jan-2013 09:19 am (UTC)
Okay, thank you for giving me more insight into this. I appreciate it.
corbyinoz 23rd-Jan-2013 09:18 am (UTC)
Fair enough, and as I hope I said, it's not a personal disapproval, rather trying to get a feel for the general response. And I guess, in your situation, it's difficult to know what to aim for; what is or is not an 'acceptable' level of concern. Too much investment in others' lives and fate is undoubtedly as problematic as 'not enough' - and how do we gauge such things? So thank you for your honest answer, I appreciate it.
redstar826 22nd-Jan-2013 09:49 pm (UTC)
If you live near high crime areas, shootings are in the local news on an almost daily basis. If I got deeply upset every time one happened I'd have a hard time getting anything else done.
corbyinoz 23rd-Jan-2013 09:15 am (UTC)
Okay, thank you. That helps to understand the bigger picture.
hirolin 22nd-Jan-2013 08:13 pm (UTC)
As a Houstonian and someone who was planning to attend school at this campus recently (but decided to go to another school), this is a bit too real for me. :(

I hope everyone fully recovers.
lone_concertina 22nd-Jan-2013 08:15 pm (UTC)
I lived in that area when I was a kid until we were robbed and I walked in on it happening. It's a ROUGH part of town. This isn't a school shooting; it's an argument that went too far. Welcome to Houston.
hirolin 22nd-Jan-2013 08:24 pm (UTC)
Yeah...it's not exactly the greatest area.

I also used to live close by (Greenspoint) and thought all the talk about it being a rough area were just from people afraid to live in the vicinity of a heavy minority population until I saw a man shot dead in the middle of the street one day.
lone_concertina 22nd-Jan-2013 08:28 pm (UTC)
We lived off Rankin and E Hardy Road and my ass was too young to see the shit I saw back then. My SCHOOL BUS was held up at gunpoint in the Greenspoint parking lot. MY SCHOOL BUS.
layweed 22nd-Jan-2013 11:27 pm (UTC)
WTF
illuminaris 23rd-Jan-2013 07:23 pm (UTC)
Isn't the nickname Gunspoint?
corroded_tears 22nd-Jan-2013 08:35 pm (UTC)
Yeah.... Greenspoint/ "gunspoint" is a bad area. I went to school near by in the Aldine area and now I live near the medical center (after living at UH, which was another "rough area")but....yeah. Rough area(since as long as I can remember) that always seems to lead to awful things happening a lot of the time. I wish it could be better since I noticed that it had to have been better at some point. Maybe(?)

Welcome to Houston. welcome to the Hellmouth.
layweed 22nd-Jan-2013 11:27 pm (UTC)
remind me never to move to that area.
moonshaz 22nd-Jan-2013 08:34 pm (UTC)


O.P., how about adding the "oh not this shit again" tag (for hopefully obvious reasons)?

Edited at 2013-01-22 08:44 pm (UTC)
furrygreen 22nd-Jan-2013 09:14 pm (UTC)
ANOTHER SCHOOL SHOOTING? OMFG! Because I was thinking that I was longing for another school shooting. /end sarcasm

How many of you think that instead of this being some sort of shame to Texas gun carriers the GOP/NRA will try to pan this out as proof that their stance on guns is the right one seeing as people were "only wounded."
ladylothwen 22nd-Jan-2013 09:33 pm (UTC)
Read about this on my local newspaper's website. There were already comments that this was orchstrated by the anti-gun lobby to support their cause, or whatever.

ultraelectric 22nd-Jan-2013 10:30 pm (UTC)
Wow. That's weird, especially since people seem to be thinking this was gang related/altercation between two men, it wasn't someone who went to the college with the sole purpose of killing random people.
layweed 22nd-Jan-2013 11:26 pm (UTC)
it's always a conspiracy theory with these people, isn't it? Everything from the Tuscon shootings to Aurora to Newtown. ffs.
layweed 22nd-Jan-2013 11:26 pm (UTC)
You would think working at the PD would make me semi-informed of such things but nope. Didn't hear about this at all until I got home and checked FB/Twitter. Then again, it probably isn't in the City area so yeah.

ETA: HEY Didn't know there were that many Houstonites here.

Edited at 2013-01-22 11:28 pm (UTC)
bellonia 23rd-Jan-2013 09:58 am (UTC)
That's the one that used to be North Harris, isn't it? Freaky D:. I went there a long time ago. And hearing the "Bad neighborhood" thing makes me lol because I walked home from there once.

eta: I can read, I promise. I just choose not to >.>. So, yeah, freaky. It's really weird seeing somewhere familiar come up on these things. I'm just glad it wasn't worse!

Edited at 2013-01-23 09:59 am (UTC)
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