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[TW: bullying, sexual harassment] A breast reduction is the new solution to bullying!

11:37 pm - 01/22/2013
Not all school bullies are students — some work there.

Tammie Jackson phoned a Missouri school district to say that her daughter Gabrielle, 13, was routinely harassed because of her large breasts. But the alleged response from an employee horrified the already worried mother.
“The lady on the phone said they could transfer my daughter and said her boobs were so large she will always get teased. And the only suggestion she had for me is to have my daughter get a breast reduction,” Jackson told local Fox-affiliate KTVI. [OP: What. The. Fuck.]

Bullies at Central Middle School in Moline Acres, near St. Louis, make lewd and insensitive comments about Gabrielle’s large breasts, her mother claimed.

The girl’s mother Tammie Jackson was deeply troubled by the response she says she received concerning her daughter’s predicament.  
Jackson expected the school to look into the issue and tell the suspects to stop humiliating the sixth-grade girl. Instead, Jackson said the blame was placed unfairly on Gabrielle, the victim, rather than the bullies.

“It makes me feel like now you are telling me it’s my fault, it’s God’s fault the way he made my daughter,” she said.

School Superintendent Clive Coleman said that the school is currently investigating the incident and working on decreasing bullying throughout his district. He does not think, however, that Jackson’s claims are entirely accurate, reported KTVI.

“We’re still investigating it,” he said. “But to be honest with you, I think it’s maybe a product of miscommunication.&rdquo [OP: LOL sure.]

School Superintendent Clive Coleman said the controversy likely stems from a matter of miscommunication.
Jackson also said that her son Elijah, 9, is bullied regularly because of surgical scars on his chest. The taunts, she said, have lead Elijah to talk about suicide. [OP: He's NINE. I hate everything.]

Jackson worries greatly that bullying early on in life can adversely affect that person for the rest of his or her life. She thinks that adults need to take a more active role in having open discussions with children about these issues.

“Talk with the kids,” Jackson said. “Let them know people’s bodies are changing, everybody is different, but God made us all great.”

Source

OP: As someone who was cursed with early puberty, I would loooove to have a few choice words with this administration. Fucking fuck.

EDITED to change the title, as the old one got cut off.
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shadwrayvn 23rd-Jan-2013 07:51 am (UTC)
Wow my heart goes out to her daughter especially with myself remembering being a 13yrs old wearing a 38C bra while all my classmates were boobless. I am so sick of all these administrations blaming the victims & doing nothing to the bullies. Take some fucking responsibility!

Edited at 2013-01-23 07:51 am (UTC)
natyanayaki 23rd-Jan-2013 07:52 am (UTC)
There are so many layers of grossness with this. So many things in our society needs to be changed, from the way we discuss the human body (with children), the way faculty deals with bullying, the way we teach our children to behave/treat others...and so much more (I'm way too sleepy to even start on the misogyny of it all).
squeeful 23rd-Jan-2013 07:59 am (UTC)
This line of thinking is so, so wrong.

And, yet, if she did try that route, guaranteed the insurance company would reject her claim. They no longer cover for "psychological reasons". Unless you're a dude. Mildly swollen boobs, sure, we'll cover it.
belleweather 23rd-Jan-2013 01:22 pm (UTC)
They wouldn't cover it, but more importantly a surgeon wouldn't preform it. You don't do a breast reduction on a still-developing teenager, because their breasts aren't done growing and trying to do a reduction has all sorts of health and looks consequences.
thunderbird8 23rd-Jan-2013 08:12 am (UTC)
A reduction won't stop the bullying, they'll just find something else to bully about.
oceandezignz 23rd-Jan-2013 08:14 am (UTC)
Thank you.
wikilobbying 23rd-Jan-2013 08:14 am (UTC)
having also went through early puberty, fuck them for not taking this seriously. adults enabling that crap is precisely why kids like her will always get teased. god forbid you tell kids doing the teasing to stop - oh noes, the world would just end~
oceandezignz 23rd-Jan-2013 08:17 am (UTC)
I did not go through early puberty. I was progressing rather normally until I was pulled out early for a winter holiday trip to Louisiana in 8th grade. Left California a mid-B, came back to California a mid-to-high D. People wouldn't stop harassing me as if I got implants over the break.

So no, that school needs to shut up. There is no miscommunication here, if a SCHOOL EMPLOYEE is telling the mother that kind of crap. No excuses.

These poor babies need a hug and I wish I could give it.
gloraelin 23rd-Jan-2013 08:20 am (UTC)
like she could even GET a reduction, seeing as how apparently we wimminz only get reductions if we're already conventionally pretty... or at least, that's been my experience in trying to get one.
squeeful 23rd-Jan-2013 08:23 am (UTC)
My insurance company told me to get physical therapy and lose weight. Um...that's not going to help?

Yeah, not to mention no ethical surgeon is going to perform a breast reduction on a 13 year old unless there was serious pain issues.
usnbfs 23rd-Jan-2013 08:28 am (UTC)
People bullying you for some physical "flaw"? Get rid of it and many will seize the chance to continue bullying you for changing it.
Suggesting make-up to cover up freckles or scars whatever is bad enough, but suggesting surgery on a child? WTF is wrong with people!
kahluaandcream 23rd-Jan-2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
There's a part in Stephen King's On Writing that I keep thinking back to when he discusses the two girls who inspired Carrie. This girl who always bullied for dressing poorly got a new, stylish outfit... and she was bullied EVEN WORSE for trying to dress like the popular kids.

You can't win when bullying is allowed to continue unimpeded.
mentalguru 23rd-Jan-2013 08:53 am (UTC)
Ugh, gross. Miss communication my ass, hope whoever took the call gets punished in any case. Plus I hope the girl and boy eill be okay.

Though of course in response to this girl being harassed in such a way I bet the parents of the bullies will go "waah, waah, kids will be kids!"

And when they grow up, if so: Well who knew that letting them get away with such behaviour would turn them into shitty adults: women who see women as competition they have to take down by destroying their self esteem, and men seeing women as objects?

And the poor son, suicidal at such a young age? Ugh.
lady_tigerlily 23rd-Jan-2013 09:08 am (UTC)




muizenstaartje 23rd-Jan-2013 10:52 am (UTC)
I want people to stop blaming the victim. I want people to stop calling people who are pushed into suicide weak and cowards. I want people to stop calling it bullying and start calling it what it is: harassment, abuse, sexual assault, blackmail, extortion, theft, death threats, slander, libel, identity theft, (attempted) manslaughter*, or in other words: criminal behaviour.

(*not all of these apply to the above cases, but are part of bullying in general.)
usnbfs 23rd-Jan-2013 03:56 pm (UTC)
At least "bullying" is better than "teasing". :|
korppi_ravn 23rd-Jan-2013 11:52 am (UTC)
I dealt with the same thing from the same age and forward. Now I'm soon to be 19, and I still have people commenting on my breasts. It's like, what right do you have to talk about my body like that, and to my face? I know they're large, but it's not as though I can help it, and it's extremely disrespectful of others to think I want/need to hear them commenting on them, good or bad. Poor kid, I hope the system helps her, and her brother. Fuck bullying, that shit is damaging.
tabaqui 23rd-Jan-2013 12:08 pm (UTC)
Not only do they blame the victim, but the Superintendant is perilously close to saying the mom is an 'angry black woman', you know? And just dismissing her.

Fucking assholes.
astridmyrna 23rd-Jan-2013 01:09 pm (UTC)
Along with misogyny and victim-blaming, does anyone else think that the girl being black is another reason why the school was all "lol give her a breast reduction"? When I was reading this I kept thinking of that article about Serena Williams and how she's reduced to the sum of her parts, unlike her white losers competitors.
jettakd 23rd-Jan-2013 06:50 pm (UTC)
Definitely not the only one thinking it. I think this girl would get a lot more sympathy--or at least more media coverage--if she were white.
ragnor144 23rd-Jan-2013 01:54 pm (UTC)
I had large (and famous among my male classmates) breasts, and I still feel uneasy when I have to walk down the hall of my old high school where the majority of the harassment took place - and I am 42 years old. This school system owes both of her children quality counseling and needs to stop the harassment.
poopanna 23rd-Jan-2013 02:21 pm (UTC)
When I was 13, I was boobless but I had a girlfriend with GIGANTIC BOOBS. I watched her get sexually harassed in school and I saw bitchy older women, friends' mothers, treat her like a piece of garbage because of it.

When she got her breast reduction, they learned she was allergic to the sutures and she now has ugly scars. I feel bad for her.
kahluaandcream 23rd-Jan-2013 03:01 pm (UTC)
Reading everyone's experiences, I'm now very happy I went to all girl's school. I had people make comments outside of school (like the two waiters debating whether my breasts were real and deciding that they were not a fucking few feet away from me, when I was 19) but I was never sexually harassed, bullied or made to feel different. I did get a reduction after college, and while I don't regret it, I'm not totally sure what the school expects to happen. My size only dropped a couple of cups, and they gradually got back up to F even though I was supposed to stay in the C range. Since she's still developing she'd probably end up getting the surgery multiple times every time there was a bullying incident, if this superintendent had his way.

Wouldn't it just be cheaper and healthier in the long run to punish the bullies for being awful people?
darlahood 23rd-Jan-2013 06:18 pm (UTC)
All girls school for me too! *hi five!*
keeperofthekeys 23rd-Jan-2013 04:03 pm (UTC)
Adding to the chorus of large-breasted women getting harassed. I didn't get them until later (like 16 or so I think, though they kept growing into college), at which point I tried to bury them under baggier T-shirts and over-sized sweatshirts. I don't do that now, but I always get thinking about breast reduction every year when summer comes around and I start loathing them (and usually myself) for the attention/looks and comments I get.
furrygreen 23rd-Jan-2013 04:06 pm (UTC)
SURGERY? Their fucking fantastic idea is to say she needs SURGERY? Con-fucking-lations for taking that step so far beyond taking personal responsibility that you can't even be seen by the Hubble space telescope.

dagnirovanaliel 23rd-Jan-2013 04:22 pm (UTC)
jfc. Seriously? You think a thirteen year old should have a reduction? I'm 23 and have been trying to get one for a few years (34F, whoo!) and I'm half relieved my insurance keeps shooting me down because oh my god it looks fucking terrifying. She may choose to have one once she's an adult but she's THIRTEEN. Holy shit.

I developed mine around the age of 15 and because I have problems with shirts touching my neck I often wear low-cut tops. I had bullying problems a couple years before that for other reasons (mainly, "no real reason she's just easy") but it stopped by the time I hit high school. Instead, I got the creepy college dude who hung around our anime club constantly harassing me. Not to mention perfect strangers. Oh, fun.
little_rachael 23rd-Jan-2013 05:56 pm (UTC)
Like those horrible brats are going to suddenly stop teasing her even if she does get breast reduction surgery! What a stupid suggestion. Sounds like somebody doesn't have the guts to confront their students about bullying.
poetic_pixie_13 23rd-Jan-2013 07:12 pm (UTC)
“The lady on the phone said they could transfer my daughter and said her boobs were so large she will always get teased. And the only suggestion she had for me is to have my daughter get a breast reduction,

Jackson also said that her son Elijah, 9, is bullied regularly because of surgical scars on his chest. The taunts, she said, have lead Elijah to talk about suicide


Fuck I fucking hate everybody.
louisiane_fille 23rd-Jan-2013 10:52 pm (UTC)
What I want to know is, what is wrong with parents today? Have they completely abdicated their responsibilities in raising their own children? How else could bullying be such an epidemic unless parents have just blown off their responsibility to raise kids who know and understand what is and isn't appropriate behavior?

The fact that the woman on the phone knew who Mrs. Jackson's daughter was and what she looked like tells me that mom isn't lying about this. So that school Superintendent is full of shit.
lizzy_someone 25th-Jan-2013 01:16 am (UTC)
I'm thinking it's not necessarily that the parents neglect their kids, it's that the parents also say cruel misogynistic shit where the kids can hear, and the kids grow up thinking that's okay. I used to think that queer people were shameful and dirty, because that's how my parents talked about them (which was super fun when I realized I was queer too!). I'm sure some parents just don't bother to teach their kids about appropriate behavior, but I have the sinking feeling that at least as many parents do teach their kids about appropriate behavior (often implicitly) -- they just have a deeply fucked up idea of what constitutes appropriate behavior.
moonshaz 23rd-Jan-2013 11:37 pm (UTC)
I would REALLY like to know who this "lady on the phone" was. If she was just some dumb fuck of a receptionist or secretary, she had NO business giving ANY kind of advice to a parent calling about a problem like this, and she should be SEVERELY reprimanded for doing so.

But IF she was a teacher, administrator, or (horror of horrors) member of the counseling staff, her ass should be fired and her fucking license revoked, afaic.

No matter what the woman's position at the school was, I hope Ms. Jackson's phone has been ringing off the phone from lawyers offering to represent her in a lawsuit since this story appeared, and I hope she pursues one. Because this is fucking OUTRAGEOUS, and this school deserves all the public shaming that such proceedings would entail.



Edited at 2013-01-23 11:37 pm (UTC)
ohmiya_sg 24th-Jan-2013 01:18 am (UTC)
That's what I was wondering. It sounds like the mother didn't even know who she was talking to. I hope they figure it out so she can face consequences.
mad_with_july 24th-Jan-2013 01:47 am (UTC)
Bullying is never about what the target does or doesn't do. Bullies don't bully to improve you. They bully because they're bullies. It's about them, not you, and the day you figure that out is the day you win, though it usually doesn't happen until like your 20th reunion.

I swear I would not be 15 again for anything. Fuck this school, and go mom for being on her kid's side in this.

A.
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