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CNN Anchor Tricks Opponent Of Women In Combat To Endorse Racial Segregation

9:54 am - 01/25/2013
CNN Anchor Tricks Opponent Of Women In Combat To Endorse Racial Segregation

Conservatives are outraged over Defense Secretary Leon Panetta’s decision to lift the ban on women in combat, which opens up more than 200,000 frontline positions to women. Opponents of the move have called it “humiliating” and dangerous to unit cohesion. On CNN’s Starting Point, host Soledad O’Brien caught one such critic off guard by anonymously quoting a similar argument made during integration of African Americans into the military.

Professor Kingsley Browne, author of “Co-Ed Combat,” argued that the military’s physical standards would have to be lowered to accommodate women because there is “very little overlap in physical capacity between men and women.” O’Brien asked him if he agreed with a 1941 quote blasting military integration from Colonel Eugene Householder without revealing its context:

O’BRIEN: I’m going to read a little bit from this colonel who said this: ‘The army is not a sociological laboratory; to be effective it must be organized and trained according to the principles which will ensure success…Experiments are a danger to efficiency, discipline and morale and would result in ultimate defeat.’

BROWNE: I think that that’s true. I don’t think it’s true with respect to ultimate defeat of the United States in a war. I think what’s likely to occur though is the defeat of the United States in small battles, which means people are going to die. [...]

O’BRIEN: That was from a guy in 1941. And that argument was about not allowing black people in the military. That was his exact argument of why blacks should not be allowed in the military, because it’s a danger to efficiency and discipline and morale and will result in ultimate defeat.

Watch it [here.]

Though African American soldiers served in every military campaign since the Revolutionary War, units were only integrated after World War II by executive order. During integration, black soldiers endured racist arguments that they were fundamentally different and incompatible with white soldiers. Similarly, women have held combat roles for decades. During the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, 292,000 women served in combat zones, and 152 were killed in action. A survey of NATO allies who allow women in combat roles found no issues with unit cohesion and noted that women tended to perform better than their male colleagues in intelligent-gathering roles.

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OP: I'm sure the USSR would like to speak to these bigots. Women in combat during WWII were one of the key reasons Russia didn't fall to Germany. Let's take a step back a little further in time to Ancient Rome. One of the reasons they feared of the Germanic tribes was the women who'd either fight or stayed in the back of the battle to kill their fleeing men. We're fierce.
tabaqui 25th-Jan-2013 10:12 pm (UTC)
Ha. What a dumbass. And if you want to address sex in the military, how about address *rape*. That's a bigger threat to friggin' unit cohesion.
nikoel 25th-Jan-2013 10:22 pm (UTC)
^This!
asrana 25th-Jan-2013 11:47 pm (UTC)
Oh, but, y'know, that'd be solved if there were no women in the military. Because, y'know, only women get raped, on account of being helplessly female, and stuff. Yeah. Two birds with one stone. Yup. Uh-huh.

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rayofblacklight 26th-Jan-2013 03:33 am (UTC)
THIS. I just got out of an inpatient trauma program and there were so many women who were raped in the military by their supervisors or colleagues.
tabaqui 26th-Jan-2013 03:55 am (UTC)
Bah. My niece is graduating hs in May and then joining the Marines in August. I know it's a good thing as far as her getting an education and whatnot but.... I really do fear for her.
shhh_its_s3cr3t 25th-Jan-2013 10:32 pm (UTC)
Bless you Soledad for this.... :)
vulturoso 25th-Jan-2013 11:54 pm (UTC)
You guys being a different color is a biological difference. Being a woman is voodoo magic cast upon menfolk from a wicked dragon ruling from the peak of Mount Estrogen.
serendipity_15 26th-Jan-2013 12:16 am (UTC)
This should be metaquoted.
kitschaster 26th-Jan-2013 12:45 am (UTC)
*CACKLES*


Loving the voodoo magic cast upon my body, then!
abiding 26th-Jan-2013 12:02 am (UTC)
I love Soledad.
tiddlywinks103 26th-Jan-2013 12:38 am (UTC)
Soledad don't give a fuck. She has been amazing, lately.
ohmiya_sg 26th-Jan-2013 01:14 am (UTC)
How are people so fucking stupid? They won't have to lower the requirements, there just won't be as many applicable women as men, with equal strength and fitness requirements.
wrestlingdog 26th-Jan-2013 01:26 am (UTC)
Soledad fucking rules.
nickel_curry 26th-Jan-2013 01:36 am (UTC)
It's baffling to think that women weren't allowed in combat to begin with, and it's especially insane how it is still fought against. At least there are some people to put haters in their place.
romp 26th-Jan-2013 07:39 am (UTC)
sweet!
pseudovirus 26th-Jan-2013 02:47 pm (UTC)
lmao I love when Soledad makes some of her trulyyyyyyy assholish guests dig themselves in deeper
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