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Straight Male Politicians Kiss For Marriage Equality Amid Huge Protests In France

8:39 pm - 01/28/2013


A pair of French politicians made a touching statement in support of LGBT equality this weekend, as protesters geared up for Tuesday's parliamentary debate on the country's marriage equality bill.

Socialist (and straight) members of French parliament Yann Galut and Nicolas Bays shared a kiss as part of the "Marriage for All" protests on Sunday, as tens of thousands marched around the country in support of same-sex marriage and adoption rights, reports French paper Liberation.

"We’re both straight, we’re both married with children," Galut said, according to a translation by Gay Star News. "But today with the kiss of solidarity, it meant we, as parliamentary members who start fighting for same-sex marriage legislation in two days, we stand in solidarity with homosexuals."

A photo of the symbolic kiss has gone viral, with the pair's colleagues on both sides of the aisle weighing in, according to Gay Star, with comments ranging from "heroic" to "ridiculous and needlessly provocative."

Galut and Bays' Kodak moment may remind many of a similar photo, showing two straight French women kissing in front of a group of anti-gay protestors in Marseille, France in October. The two teenage women told French magazine Têtu that, while they are both straight, they wanted to take a stand.

"While we were kissing, [the protesters] were screaming, 'You're disgusting! You are not beautiful!" one of the women told Têtu.

Sunday's "Marriage for All" demonstrations were attended by an estimated 125,000, according to France 24. While polling numbers show that a majority of French support gay marriage, the government bill has galvanized anti-gay protesters who staged massive protests against it earlier this month. The bill would legalize same-sex marriage in France and afford full adoption rights for same-sex couples, according to CNN.

On Jan. 13, hundreds of thousands of protesters marched along Paris's Champ de Mars in opposition to gay marriage, according to Reuters. The demonstration drew from an eclectic base, including practicing Catholics, the extreme far-right Front National party and others.

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beetlebums 29th-Jan-2013 04:24 am (UTC)
Y'all need some French cheese for the whining in this post. These guys are politicians, aka people who make laws like the US's flop congress, and here they are showing solidarity towards marriage equality and yet a lot of you find a way to moan instead of saying "shit why can't we have people run like this in x-country" smh
girly123 29th-Jan-2013 04:27 am (UTC)
That's nice, but you know what's a way more solid show of solidarity than kissing in front of cameras?

Legislation.
beetlebums 29th-Jan-2013 04:32 am (UTC)
I'm glad to see that you can read! Their session starts in 2 days, or 1 day. Fucking time change how does it work???
girly123 29th-Jan-2013 04:34 am (UTC)
Fucking they could have been doing this before, how does that work?

The only people who will be really impressed by this are straight people, honestly. There are far less attention pandering ways to show solidarity than this bullshit.
beetlebums 29th-Jan-2013 04:38 am (UTC)
Nicolas was just elected and Galut was just reelected after not serving for a while

Receipts 12
girly123 29th-Jan-2013 04:42 am (UTC)
kthx
This is still a totally stupid show of "solidarity", though.

That came off as really snarky; not my intention.

Edited at 2013-01-29 04:43 am (UTC)
beetlebums 29th-Jan-2013 04:45 am (UTC)
I cannot say that it isn't for you, but it's a great proof of accountability which even 40 years ago, that was hard to come by.

[I was going to say 20 but then I realized that was 1993 -________-]
girly123 29th-Jan-2013 05:05 am (UTC)
I mean, I guess? I'm still withholding my praise until they take any real action, though, because talk is cheap.
It's not dissimilar to when Obama mentioned marriage equality at the Inaugural Address this year: it was certainly unprecedented, which was surprising, but unless it's followed by constructive action, it doesn't mean much in the scheme of things.

(also jfc makes me feel oooooooold, what the hell. o_o)
beetlebums 29th-Jan-2013 05:13 am (UTC)
Obama can sing me every song like Celine Dion but shit isn't gonna change unless we keep the momentum going. It makes me so frustrated that people don't vote in the mid-year elections when all those little positions add up to shit that can make things easier or harder for change to happen
carmy_w 29th-Jan-2013 04:13 pm (UTC)
Seconding your statement SO FUCKING HARD.

Mid-year (or mid-cycle, as it were) elections is what lost the Dems the House in 2010. And in many, MANY ways, they are more important than the Presidential election.

For that matter, so are local elections, because the County Commissioner from last decade is now the state senator elected last year, and will be going to the National stage in another decade.
girly123 29th-Jan-2013 04:14 pm (UTC)
This is the exact same reason why I'm so unimpressed by these two dudes kissing. It's like a more attention thirsty version of the same inaction.
muted_hitokiri 3rd-Feb-2013 08:00 pm (UTC)
A couple of days on, just thought you might like to see this: http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/10395058.html

:)
eveofrevolution 29th-Jan-2013 04:30 am (UTC)
I think it's great that these politicians support equality. What is annoying is that I feel that these straight people who kiss each other to show support get more attention than the gay people at these functions. It's putting straight allies at the forefront of a gay rights issue, which is problematic.
beetlebums 29th-Jan-2013 04:34 am (UTC)
And I believe it sends a stronger message because these men have the power to change the laws. There's photographic proof and quotes that their legislation can use to demand to know what the statuses of xyz are.
natyanayaki 29th-Jan-2013 05:04 am (UTC)
But...if they really mean it...then why are they so focused on reinforcing that they're straight? If they really are for equality, if they really don't believe that there's anything wrong with having a sexual orientation that's other than heterosexual, and if they're secure in their sexuality, then why make such a big deal about their heterosexuality? I'm sorry, I don't mean to come off as whining, I just don't understand that, I've just never truly understood the need to praise individuals of dominant/powerful/more visible groups for speaking in favor of recognizing the humanity of individuals who don't fit in the dominant groups and why society acts like it's a major step or sacrifice when they do. For instance, if there's nothing wrong with two men kissing, then why are they acting as if it's a big deal?
beetlebums 29th-Jan-2013 05:10 am (UTC)
Since I'm not them I could not tell you why they said what they said, just like you cannot. But we can both theorize it.

France, like a lot of Mediterranean Europe culture, is very ~macho man~. Even though the interview was to a gay newspaper, their being newly voted in and being vocal about promoting equality, it ws bound to get picked up by "mainstream" news.

How do you change a chauvinistic cis straight male culture?

IMO, having cis straight males telling fellow cis straight males point blank how they feel. It's annoying to constantly having to hear these men [and women] finally wake up and smell the roses of human sexuality. But you need the humming to grow more to really create a buzz.
natyanayaki 29th-Jan-2013 05:24 am (UTC)
I'm not blaming them or accusing them, it's the culture of the praise, the culture of making it a big deal that bothers me. And I think it's problematic that these men, who are supposed to (and hopefully will) change the laws that inform culture, feed into that culture.

Edited at 2013-01-29 05:25 am (UTC)
beetlebums 29th-Jan-2013 05:27 am (UTC)
Yeah. The culture of being a decent human seems to be hard to find, ofc the news will run with it -___-;;;;


All of us decent people should have been born in the future not on this cultural change cusp
natyanayaki 29th-Jan-2013 05:31 am (UTC)
I highly doubt that there will ever be a time in which one powerful group isn't systematically preying upon a less powerful group. I do not doubt our species capacity to do horrible things to each other, to find "new" groups of people to hate (while remnants of hatred towards previous systematically targeted groups remains, but is just a little less obvious).
beetlebums 29th-Jan-2013 05:39 am (UTC)
chaosprincess21 29th-Jan-2013 02:13 pm (UTC)
Also speaking theoretically, but they wouldn't want to mislead anyone. I think it's better if they're up front about their being heterosexual than having people wonder and up in arms about supposed dishonesty. Like, say I was writing lot of literature involving gay romance. I would not want to mislead my readers into thinking I myself was gay. If anyone asked, I'd want to be upfront about it.

Not sure how I feel about the actual kiss, but that's just one of the reasons why they'd bring up their sexual orientation.
natyanayaki 31st-Jan-2013 04:09 am (UTC)
They're both married, that would be public record, I don't think the possibility of misleading the people should be an issue at all, and if that comes up they could then mention that they happen to be straight and married (and if they made that statement in response to a question, then it is different). My issue is with the fact that straight individuals, when speaking in favor of gay rights, so often seem to state and re-state "oh but I'm straight" as if it's bad to be gay. It often seems that these straight individuals are being so high and mighty to be for gay rights, even though it would be the end of the world if someone assumed that they are gay. IMO it just seems very hypocritical, and as if the individual is speaking in favor of gay rights to gain some small recognition and not because their concerned about human rights.
freeze_i_say 29th-Jan-2013 02:08 pm (UTC)
very well said
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