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The Holocaust Just Got More Shocking

3:26 pm - 03/02/2013
THIRTEEN years ago, researchers at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum began the grim task of documenting all the ghettos, slave labor sites, concentration camps and killing factories that the Nazis set up throughout Europe.

What they have found so far has shocked even scholars steeped in the history of the Holocaust.

The researchers have cataloged some 42,500 Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany itself, during Hitler’s reign of brutality from 1933 to 1945.

The figure is so staggering that even fellow Holocaust scholars had to make sure they had heard it correctly when the lead researchers previewed their findings at an academic forum in late January at the German Historical Institute in Washington.

“The numbers are so much higher than what we originally thought,” Hartmut Berghoff, director of the institute, said in an interview after learning of the new data.

“We knew before how horrible life in the camps and ghettos was,” he said, “but the numbers are unbelievable.”

The documented camps include not only “killing centers” but also thousands of forced labor camps, where prisoners manufactured war supplies; prisoner-of-war camps; sites euphemistically named “care” centers, where pregnant women were forced to have abortions or their babies were killed after birth; and brothels, where women were coerced into having sex with German military personnel.

Auschwitz and a handful of other concentration camps have come to symbolize the Nazi killing machine in the public consciousness. Likewise, the Nazi system for imprisoning Jewish families in hometown ghettos has become associated with a single site — the Warsaw Ghetto, famous for the 1943 uprising. But these sites, infamous though they are, represent only a minuscule fraction of the entire German network, the new research makes painfully clear.

The maps the researchers have created to identify the camps and ghettos turn wide sections of wartime Europe into black clusters of death, torture and slavery — centered in Germany and Poland, but reaching in all directions.

The lead editors on the project, Geoffrey Megargee and Martin Dean, estimate that 15 million to 20 million people died or were imprisoned in the sites that they have identified as part of a multivolume encyclopedia. (The Holocaust museum has published the first two, with five more planned by 2025.)

The existence of many individual camps and ghettos was previously known only on a fragmented, region-by-region basis. But the researchers, using data from some 400 contributors, have been documenting the entire scale for the first time, studying where they were located, how they were run, and what their purpose was.

The brutal experience of Henry Greenbaum, an 84-year-old Holocaust survivor who lives outside Washington, typifies the wide range of Nazi sites.

When Mr. Greenbaum, a volunteer at the Holocaust museum, tells visitors today about his wartime odyssey, listeners inevitably focus on his confinement of months at Auschwitz, the most notorious of all the camps.

But the images of the other camps where the Nazis imprisoned him are ingrained in his memory as deeply as the concentration camp number — A188991 — tattooed on his left forearm.

In an interview, he ticked off the locations in rapid fire, the details still vivid.

First came the Starachowice ghetto in his hometown in Poland, where the Germans herded his family and other local Jews in 1940, when he was just 12.

Next came a slave labor camp with six-foot-high fences outside the town, where he and a sister were moved while the rest of the family was sent to die at Treblinka. After his regular work shift at a factory, the Germans would force him and other prisoners to dig trenches that were used for dumping the bodies of victims. He was sent to Auschwitz, then removed to work at a chemical manufacturing plant in Poland known as Buna Monowitz, where he and some 50 other prisoners who had been held at the main camp at Auschwitz were taken to manufacture rubber and synthetic oil. And last was another slave labor camp at Flossenbürg, near the Czech border, where food was so scarce that the weight on his 5-foot-8-inch frame fell away to less than 100 pounds.

By the age of 17, Mr. Greenbaum had been enslaved in five camps in five years, and was on his way to a sixth, when American soldiers freed him in 1945. “Nobody even knows about these places,” Mr. Greenbaum said. “Everything should be documented. That’s very important. We try to tell the youngsters so that they know, and they’ll remember.”

The research could have legal implications as well by helping a small number of survivors document their continuing claims over unpaid insurance policies, looted property, seized land and other financial matters.

“HOW many claims have been rejected because the victims were in a camp that we didn’t even know about?” asked Sam Dubbin, a Florida lawyer who represents a group of survivors who are seeking to bring claims against European insurance companies.

Dr. Megargee, the lead researcher, said the project was changing the understanding among Holocaust scholars of how the camps and ghettos evolved.

As early as 1933, at the start of Hitler’s reign, the Third Reich established about 110 camps specifically designed to imprison some 10,000 political opponents and others, the researchers found. As Germany invaded and began occupying European neighbors, the use of camps and ghettos was expanded to confine and sometimes kill not only Jews but also homosexuals, Gypsies, Poles, Russians and many other ethnic groups in Eastern Europe. The camps and ghettos varied enormously in their mission, organization and size, depending on the Nazis’ needs, the researchers have found.

The biggest site identified is the infamous Warsaw Ghetto, which held about 500,000 people at its height. But as few as a dozen prisoners worked at one of the smallest camps, the München-Schwabing site in Germany. Small groups of prisoners were sent there from the Dachau concentration camp under armed guard. They were reportedly whipped and ordered to do manual labor at the home of a fervent Nazi patron known as “Sister Pia,” cleaning her house, tending her garden and even building children’s toys for her.

When the research began in 2000, Dr. Megargee said he expected to find perhaps 7,000 Nazi camps and ghettos, based on postwar estimates. But the numbers kept climbing — first to 11,500, then 20,000, then 30,000, and now 42,500.

The numbers astound: 30,000 slave labor camps; 1,150 Jewish ghettos; 980 concentration camps; 1,000 prisoner-of-war camps; 500 brothels filled with sex slaves; and thousands of other camps used for euthanizing the elderly and infirm, performing forced abortions, “Germanizing” prisoners or transporting victims to killing centers.

In Berlin alone, researchers have documented some 3,000 camps and so-called Jew houses, while Hamburg held 1,300 sites.

Dr. Dean, a co-researcher, said the findings left no doubt in his mind that many German citizens, despite the frequent claims of ignorance after the war, must have known about the widespread existence of the Nazi camps at the time.

“You literally could not go anywhere in Germany without running into forced labor camps, P.O.W. camps, concentration camps,” he said. “They were everywhere.”


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andthelight 2nd-Mar-2013 08:48 pm (UTC)
Dr. Dean, a co-researcher, said the findings left no doubt in his mind that many German citizens, despite the frequent claims of ignorance after the war, must have known about the widespread existence of the Nazi camps at the time.

This part doesn't even surprise me. It just makes me feel incredibly disappointed in and angry with humanity.
endlos_schleife 2nd-Mar-2013 08:52 pm (UTC)
As someone who grew up in Germany I never believed that excuse. At least not once I started to get interested in German history.
nadejda 2nd-Mar-2013 09:41 pm (UTC)
I think that it is also important to know that concentration camps and even gas chambers were not invented by Nazi. They had been introduced long before in Soviet Union by Lenin- Stalin. And numbers of soviet citizens who had been put in concentration camps and killed in gas chambers were great- some estimate them about 20-30 millions.

In fact KGB used tracks with the text " Bread" on the side and just put the tube from end part of motor inside the back chamber. And during the way to the cemetery all prisoners were killed by CO.


It will be very good if people who still like Lenin-Stalin way of rule would remember it.
zinnia_rose 3rd-Mar-2013 12:30 am (UTC)
And this is relevant...how?
lomesir22 3rd-Mar-2013 01:23 am (UTC)
How is this relevant, exactly?
jslayeruk 2nd-Mar-2013 10:01 pm (UTC)
It's funny, I just came to my computer after watching Who Do You Think You Are with Jerry Springer trying to trace where his grandparents died. One grandmother died in the ghetto, the other died in the gas vans (the precursor to the gas chambers). Hearing the horrors that his relatives went through... I just... yeah. There are no words.
bellichka 3rd-Mar-2013 12:05 am (UTC)
I freaking LOVE "Who Do You Think You Are"! I thought I'd seen all the episodes, but I haven't seen Jerry's. Will have to give it a look. Lisa Kudrow's still gives me goosebumps and puts tears in my eyes, just thinking about it.
angelofdeath275 2nd-Mar-2013 10:51 pm (UTC)
None of this surprises me. Just more that isn't taught in schools leaving me disappointed.
natyanayaki 3rd-Mar-2013 02:53 am (UTC)
Yeah, and I wish schools would focus more time on how Hitler and the Nazis came to power, the type of language and culture that was used to appeal to the youth etc at that time (and how International politics played a part)...
omimouse 2nd-Mar-2013 11:20 pm (UTC)
My Opa wound up in a slave labour camp where most of the other prisoners were Russian. There's no way in hell the local area didn't know about it, because an affluent pastor/priest/something like that got whoever was in charge of the camp to march prisoners to his church on Sundays, where he would preach at them and feed them. I don't know how he got that one through, and neither did Opa.

The American troops that liberated his camp weren't able to give him a ride back home, but every single Allied squad or soldier that he passed? Yeah, he got meals, they got him a bike, and all sorts of other things to make the trip across Germany back to the Netherlands easier. Shaved head and that little body mass, they all knew where he'd come from. And from what he could tell, none of *them* believed that the local populace hadn't known what was going on either.

Mom said he had nightmares about it for as long as she can remember.
romp 3rd-Mar-2013 01:53 am (UTC)
My father opened a work camp and he swore the nearby towns and farmers had to know. They should just have admitted they knew. The denial made my father furious because, I think, he saw the starving people and it was worse to say they didn't exist than to say you were unable to help.
qara_isuke 3rd-Mar-2013 12:30 am (UTC)
Yeah, things were pretty wide-spread and so multi-leveled. I probably wouldn't be here today if not for some incredibly brave folks.

My great-grandparents were a German officer that married a local while he was stationed in the Canary Islands (Spanish-owned islands off the coast of Africa). My great-grandmother wasn't black, but she was ethnicially Not White (tm) and that was a serious issue once they moved back to Germany with my grandmother. Opa had been retiring prior to the war, but they forced him back into service and sent him off to France, where he was eventually captured by American forces. And while he was off "serving his country", his family was promptly arrested for "Crimes against German Purity" and sent to a forced labor farm.

My grandmother doesn't.....really talk about what happened, though I can kind of glean some insight from her behaviors. I do know at some point, some amazing folks smuggled her out by hiding her in a shipping crate. She spent the rest of the war in hiding in Czechoslovakia and was reunited with her parents after the war.

I remember asking her once about whether people knew what was happening. According to her, people in her city (Augsburg) knew something was happening. They didn't know exactly what, and pointedly Did Not Ask because asking too many questions was very dangerous. There was an environment of fear and even suspicion, since they offered rewards like extra rations for information and actively encouraged people to spy on each other for the regime. She described how they would sometimes see "the soldiers in the black uniforms" come to someone's home, and the next morning that family would just be gone. They knew people were disappearing, but they weren't certain where because there weren't any camps nearby. But everyone knew something terrible was happening and resistance was met with brutal punishment and your family vanishing. So people mostly kept their heads down to survive.
romp 3rd-Mar-2013 01:55 am (UTC)
I can't imagine going through what your grandmother experienced. I hope she's had a loving family and good life since then.
milchzucker 3rd-Mar-2013 01:56 am (UTC)
There was an environment of fear and even suspicion, since they offered rewards like extra rations for information and actively encouraged people to spy on each other for the regime. She described how they would sometimes see "the soldiers in the black uniforms" come to someone's home, and the next morning that family would just be gone. They knew people were disappearing, but they weren't certain where because there weren't any camps nearby. But everyone knew something terrible was happening and resistance was met with brutal punishment and your family vanishing. So people mostly kept their heads down to survive.

Very similar to what my grandparents told me. There weren't any camps nearby and they didn't really know what these camps were for, anyway. The possibilities to get real informations were almost by zero, there were only rumors here and there. And of course you couldn't publicly ask because of punishments of different sorts and the fear of being taken away.

Edited at 2013-03-03 01:56 am (UTC)
romp 3rd-Mar-2013 02:21 am (UTC)
Interesting read, thanks for posting, OP. I knew much of this but didnèt realize it hadn't been documented yet.

My father opened a work camp in Austria when he was a scout. It was the last days of the war so the guards had all left. My father and his buddy opened the gates and told everyone that the US army was just a few hours away. There was a doctor there (as a prisoner, I remember that his son had a festering wound in his head) who told everyone not to eat but still many rushed out. When my father went to a nearby farm for supplies, he found a man face-down in a blueberry pie on a window sill. Apparently, trying to eat it after starving was too much for his system.

Anyway, he was found via the internet 50 years later. People were excited to meet an eye witness and he went to Austria for a ceremony. I looked up the area--I think it may have been a subcamp of Mauthausen--and they think a jet was being built inside a mountain with work camps radiating out all around the mountain.
romp TW: text from 3rd-Mar-2013 02:25 am (UTC)
When troops of the 71st entered the camp, they learned that the SS guards had fled the corpse-littered camp days before. Some 15,000 prisoners were still in the camp. In the months following the liberation, some 1,500 former prisoners died as a consequence of their mistreatment by the Nazis. One member of the 71st Infantry recounted his first impressions of Gunskirchen:

"As we entered the camp, the living skeletons still able to walk crowded around us and, though we wanted to drive farther into the place, the milling, pressing crowd wouldn't let us. It is not an exaggeration to say that almost every inmate was insane with hunger. Just the sight of an American brought cheers, groans and shrieks. People crowded around to touch an American, to touch the jeep, to kiss our arms—perhaps just to make sure that it was true. The people who couldn't walk crawled out toward our jeep. Those who couldn't even crawl propped themselves up on an elbow, and somehow, through all their pain and suffering, revealed through their eyes the gratitude, the joy they felt at the arrival of Americans."

The 71st immediately began requisitioning supplies and transportation from the local town to provide the prisoners with food and water.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10006168

That quote is either from my father or his buddy. Sorry to overshare but this is an exciting find for me!
astridmyrna 3rd-Mar-2013 03:32 am (UTC)
This is so terrifying and so devastating at the same time. It's like, I see the numbers of how many people suffered and died and it's almost impossible to process that large amount of suffering.
underlankers 3rd-Mar-2013 04:30 am (UTC)
I have the utmost respect for historicans who specialize in genocide in general and this one in particular. Taking one class on it for one semester regularly leads to my skin crawling, and this is basically a survey course that goes only into the basics. How people can actually do this for a living or that in-depth......

They deserve a great amount of respect for being willing to wade into the worst things humans can do for each other and be able to sleep well at night.
the_gabih 3rd-Mar-2013 04:58 pm (UTC)
Seriously. I had a module which part-focused on Czechoslovakia under the occupation, and details of the awful shit the Nazis did still haunts me. I can't imagine studying that in-depth for my entire career- I don't think I could cope with it.
scolaro 3rd-Mar-2013 08:21 am (UTC)
My grandpa (92) started talking about the war only a year or two ago (my brother and I had been asking questions for a few years, but until now he'd always said "that was a long time ago, no need to talk about it anymore").

He told us that as a young man he and his friends thought Hitler was a great leader and - filled to the brim with propaganda - all they cared about was going out and fighting "the good fight".

Ghettos, death and labor camps weren't on their radar at all at the time, and I doubt they came up in any correspondence he had with his family while being at the front. So yeah, I figure it's possible that people didn't know everything and didn't ask for fear of being taken away themselves. But I refuse to believe that those left behind didn't know that something was going on.

The magnitude of the operation (even without the latest findings outlined in the article) suggests that there were enough people in charge to spread around a decent amount of hair-raising stories, and you can't tell me those didn't find their way to nearby households and on from there, even without modern-day inventions like the internet.
unclesamonmars 3rd-Mar-2013 06:15 pm (UTC)
My grandpa (92) started talking about the war only a year or two ago (my brother and I had been asking questions for a few years, but until now he'd always said "that was a long time ago, no need to talk about it anymore").

This happens a lot for survivors of the front line, it seems. My great-granduncle landed at Iwo Jima and did not speak a word of it once he got home until shortly before he died.
the_physicist 4th-Mar-2013 02:12 am (UTC)
the findings left no doubt in his mind that many German citizens, despite the frequent claims of ignorance after the war, must have known about the widespread existence of the Nazi camps at the time.

This is important.

And there is a huge amount that is not taught about the holocaust. I've come across people who didn't even know about the Nazis occupying Greece and all the people they killed there or sent off to camps. Like... WTH?!
littlelauren86 4th-Mar-2013 02:42 am (UTC)
Reading all the stories in this post was pretty inspiring.
apostle_of_eris 4th-Mar-2013 03:58 am (UTC)
Please remember also that if the war had gone on for one more year, the Final Solution would have been completed, and the camps completely dismantled.
The Holocaust deniers would then have a much easier time of it.
apostle_of_eris 4th-Mar-2013 04:00 am (UTC)
And this is why Israel has always been at least a little crazy.
(I do not mean to excuse anyone or deny anyone; I am adding a very real fact.)
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