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Conservatives Warn of Backlash If Boy Scouts Admit Gays

11:57 am - 05/13/2013


The Family Research Council has posted a series of videos, featuring Boy Scout leaders threatening to pull their families out of the BSA if the board votes to include openly gay members and scout leaders.

The pressure has been on the administrators behind the Boy Scouts of America to decide whether they will lift the ban on openly gay leaders and scouts. Officials are expected to call for an end to the organization’s ban on gay scouts but recommend continuing to prohibit gay adults from serving as troop leaders. The final vote is scheduled to occur later this month at the national council.

The FRC's videos encouraging their supporters to Stand With the Scouts, feature scoutmasters and former members who believe adding gay members would expose current scouts to harm, or violate the Boy Scouts' oath.

A few of the videos, posted at Back2Stonewall, below:






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sio 13th-May-2013 04:14 pm (UTC)
boohoo, no one will miss the homophobes once the BSA catches up with the rest of the world. why don't you lot just quit now and shove your backwards thinking up your asses?
moonbladem 13th-May-2013 05:22 pm (UTC)
Totally agree. Once these people quit and take their homophobia with them the Boy Scouts will be a much better organization. So go ahead and quit. I mean, seriously.
thelilyqueen 13th-May-2013 11:56 pm (UTC)
Seriously. I'm sure the BSA will lose some boys and leaders if they drop the ban, but they'll gain the boys and leaders who've avoided the org over the issue. If I had a son, I wouldn't let him join the Scouts now but might if they cleaned up their act.
alryssa 14th-May-2013 02:25 am (UTC)
ugh, this account again... mods, can we get a ban on this one? it's a spambot.
moonshaz 14th-May-2013 06:13 am (UTC)
Yes, please, mods. It needs to GO.
wrestlingdog 14th-May-2013 01:19 pm (UTC)
Thirded.
romp 14th-May-2013 03:50 am (UTC)
I wish more people could see this as Scouting being a pretty cool thing throughout almost all the rest of the world. USers seem to think they invented and own the concept.
astridmyrna 13th-May-2013 04:31 pm (UTC)
Lol Rick Perry



Seriously, if I had a son, I wouldn't have him in the BSA if it means he'd grow up into Rick Perry.
lux_roark 13th-May-2013 04:46 pm (UTC)
Someone called me a reverse bigot for saying I won't allow my son's to do Boy Scouts.

Edited at 2013-05-13 04:51 pm (UTC)
skellington1 13th-May-2013 06:58 pm (UTC)
HOLY SHIT YOU CHOSE A PRINCIPLED STAND BASED ON NOT CONDONING PEOPLE BEING ASSHOLES. BIGOT! BIGOT!
lickety_split 13th-May-2013 08:00 pm (UTC)
A reverse bigot...?
lux_roark 13th-May-2013 08:29 pm (UTC)
Their words, not mine! I had never heard of a "reverse bigot" before.
corinn 14th-May-2013 12:25 am (UTC)
Have they ever accused you of reverse racism?
lux_roark 14th-May-2013 01:17 am (UTC)
I relish the day when someone does.
idemandjustice 14th-May-2013 12:06 am (UTC)
It's the old, "how dare you not tolerate intolerance?"
romp 14th-May-2013 03:54 am (UTC)
There's the homophobia and abuse and the hiding of abuse. No thanks.
underlankers 13th-May-2013 04:59 pm (UTC)
Oh, it's those fascists again. >.<
alexvdl 13th-May-2013 05:01 pm (UTC)
Oh. Sorta like the giant backlash when DADT got repealed.
hinoema 14th-May-2013 04:49 am (UTC)
Yeah, and all those former states that approved gay marriage and were promptly turned into piles of salt or summat.
alexvdl 14th-May-2013 04:52 am (UTC)
Shit 20 percent of our country should be smoldering hellpits by now, right?

Edited at 2013-05-14 04:52 am (UTC)
zinnia_rose 13th-May-2013 06:01 pm (UTC)
CRY MOAR.
cindyanne1 13th-May-2013 06:41 pm (UTC)
Oh for the love of... GRRR!

I get so angry when people automatically make the jump from gay to pedophile. My own mother is like this. My husband's cousin and his partner adopted several children, and there was an article in the paper written about them talking about the unique challenges they were facing since same-sex marriage isn't legal in Ohio, and I was telling my mother about all of it and how happy and proud I am of them, and my mother spoke up and said, "They're not going to... do anything... to those kids are they?"

I was so angry I couldn't see straight for several minutes. Seriously, what the hell do you say to someone like that? :(
asrana 13th-May-2013 09:07 pm (UTC)
If it was me I'd probably stare and then turn around and walk out.

Of course then later I'd wish I'd said something like "wow, is that the reason why you never adopted?"
futureframe 14th-May-2013 12:12 am (UTC)
...because straight people never, *ever* abuse their kids. :\
cindyanne1 14th-May-2013 12:23 am (UTC)
I know right? And they're never ever pedophiles either. :|
romp 14th-May-2013 03:58 am (UTC)
People are specifically taught that. I didn't realize it was still a thing until last year. I tried to explain to someone that a man being attracted to MEN did not in any way suggest he was attracted to children. She was beyond help however.
that_therapist 13th-May-2013 08:49 pm (UTC)
*sigh*
amyura 13th-May-2013 09:09 pm (UTC)
Silly, but I had such great memories of scouting that I was so glad when I found out my kids are girls, because I can unambiguously support the GSA.

Also, I fucking hate when people bring up "reverent" and "morally straight" as incompatible with being gay. Plenty of religious people are either gay themselves or 100% support equality.
layweed 13th-May-2013 09:33 pm (UTC)
P. sure the only thing that will happen if the BSA admit openly gay members is that..........the BSA will have openly gay members. surprise, surprise.

The only "backlash" will come from homophobic parents yanking their kids out of the BSA because OH TEH HORRORS TEH GAYZ WILL INFECT OUR PRECIOUS!
kalijean 13th-May-2013 10:32 pm (UTC)
Poor persecuted babies, denied their Freedom of Asshole.

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bethan_b_bad 14th-May-2013 12:01 am (UTC)
Oh, Jed. I love you too. <3

*right-click-saves gif*
moonshaz 14th-May-2013 06:16 am (UTC)
This gif NEVER gets old. *sigh*
elobelia 13th-May-2013 11:50 pm (UTC)
If they cared about helping kids they wouldn't be for discriminating against them like this. So good riddance.
idemandjustice 14th-May-2013 12:04 am (UTC)
I wonder what it would look like if they compared those who would pull out against those families like mine who would consider not boycotting them anymore if they changed their policies.
johnjie 14th-May-2013 12:16 am (UTC)
Um, Scouts Australia has been admitting girls and LGBTQIA people for years and we are fucking awesome and have tens of thousands of members, thank you very much.
johnjie 14th-May-2013 12:16 am (UTC)
Oh, and we're non-denominational. Fuck you, BSA, you're the worst.
soliano 14th-May-2013 01:23 am (UTC)
BSA is non-denominational and non-sectarian with hundreds of thousands of members. Hopefully it will vote for positive change.
paksenarrion2 14th-May-2013 01:13 am (UTC)
So let those few bigoted assclarinets pull their kids from BSA and start their own bigoted organization. It's a win/win all around. BSA now becomes an inclusive organization they way it should be and whatever organization these fucknuggets start up makes it easier to identify them so that rational people can just stay away.
soliano 14th-May-2013 01:25 am (UTC)
Those organizations exist, but can't use all the trademarks of BSA. Been going on for a while.
amyura 14th-May-2013 02:35 am (UTC)
That's what happened with the Girl Scouts. The conservatives went off and founded a group called (I think) Heritage Girls or something. In parts of the country they don't even exist. And seriously, if you're super-conservative and gender essentialist and all the rest, why would you put your daughter in an organization where they're learning about inclusivity and camping and hiking and stuff?
moonshaz 14th-May-2013 06:19 am (UTC)
American Heritage Girls. *shudder*
soliano 14th-May-2013 01:22 am (UTC)
The organization has become so reactionary that it is scary. I hope for change. Without it, te BSA will be the last bastion of white intolerance.
hinoema 14th-May-2013 04:40 am (UTC)
The Family Research Council...

Yeah, far enough. When will people stop treating them like a credible representative group and realize they're just a hate group?
zombieroadtrip 14th-May-2013 07:24 am (UTC)
Any boy is already welcome in Scouts. But when you suddenly identify your sexuality as a key component of your identity, what you've said is, 'this is the most important thing of who I am, this is who I want you to know me as.' Why in the world would we emphasize that?

HE SAYS AFTER INTRODUCING THIS FUCKING VIDEO BY MENTIONING HIS WIFE AND TEN KIDS

CAN THEY NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND THE BLATANT HYPOCRISY HERE

DOES COMMON SENSE NOT EVEN FUCKING OCCUR
nextdrinksonme 14th-May-2013 01:30 pm (UTC)
But straight people never announce their straightness!
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