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7:01 pm - 01/19/2009
Christopher Hitchens Blames Torture on Common Americans, Demands ‘Tongue’ From Andrew Sullivan



A gaggle of prominent scribes including Tina Brown, Harold Evans, and Politico's Mike Allen got a scare Saturday night when they found themselves briefly trapped in an elevator struggling to climb seven floors to Slate's star-studded party at the D.C. apartment of Christopher Hitchens. (“The big politician from Memphis got in,” Evans later explained, referring to Representative Steve Cohen, a Tennessee Democrat. “And that was too much.”) Allen, talking to us and later writing in his daily Playbook, credited Evans and Michael Tomasky with prying open the doors “through sheer brawn.” But that night it was Hitchens himself, naturally, who got the most worked up.

Inside, Hitchens opined on whether the Obama administration should answers calls from the left to prosecute Bush administration officials for illegal interrogation of prisoners: “As long as it's agreed that these steps were taken in response to public demand,” he began, only to be interrupted by Andrew Sullivan, who greeted him with a hug and a kiss. “I want tongue. Give me tongue,” Hitchens implored, to no avail. “No, I'm not giving you tongue,” Sullivan replied, feigning astonishment. “Let the record show: Sullivan wouldn't give tongue,” Hitchens replied. (“He's gayer than I am!” Sullivan later told us.)

Continuing his discourse on torture policy, Hitchens then claimed that the Bush administration's commitment to harsh interrogation techniques, which he considers torture, derived from a desire among Americans for a more “ruthless” government. “It has to be admitted by every American that in the majority after the 9/11 Commission, people wanted an administration that was much more ruthless than the one they'd had on September the 10th,” he said.

“I know something for a sure thing,” Hitchens continued. “The demand for torture and other methods I would describe as illegal, the demand to go outside the Geneva conventions — all this came from below. What everyone wants to say is this came from a small clique around the vice-president. It's not educational. It doesn't enlighten anyone to behave as if that were true. This is our society wanting and demanding harsh measures.” Therefore, he went on, the demand for prosecution or other measures against Bush administration officials would likewise have to come from below, via the grassroots. “Otherwise it's just vengeful, I suppose, and partisan.”

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I don't know which definition of the word "wrong" to start with on this one.
mollywobbles867 20th-Jan-2009 01:08 am (UTC)
member00 20th-Jan-2009 02:05 am (UTC)
ApparentLY!

hee <3
box_in_the_box 20th-Jan-2009 01:16 am (UTC)
He's got a point.

There's a reason Bush got nearly half the country to vote for him, TWICE, and even a ticket with Palin still got a little over 45 percent of the vote.

There are some mean, stupid fuckers out there, just waiting to don their brown shirts.
koalafrog 20th-Jan-2009 01:25 am (UTC)
ia in terms of "those people," as well
box_in_the_box 20th-Jan-2009 01:31 am (UTC)
I'll be interested to see how the new season of 24 plays in the current political climate, given the fact that the show has always basically amounted to neocon pron fanfic.

Over Thanksgiving, I saw the recent 24 special, set in Africa, where Jack Bauer growls at the cowardly UN worker, "Why don't you go HIDE in the school, with all the other CHILDREN?"

I was stunned when I had to explain to my very liberal aunt and uncle that the show kind of has a right-wing bent to it.
perfectisafault 20th-Jan-2009 01:46 am (UTC)
iawtc.
those people* are exactly why palin scares the shit out of me. more so than any other republican.

*sry, i totally had a 'that one' moment, but w/e
leelakin 20th-Jan-2009 01:54 am (UTC)
Of course there are those people out there, but I think he got the majority that voted for him by fear-mongering. I don't think they would have liked him to torture, hopefully.
escherichiacola 20th-Jan-2009 01:56 am (UTC)
I was coming here to post this. A pass could be given for the first time since he did 180 reversal on his entire 2000 platform. But after 4 years to vote him in again you have no right to complain about him being the worse president because you gave him the power to do it.
skywaterblue 20th-Jan-2009 01:25 am (UTC)
*brain bursts*
lickety_split 20th-Jan-2009 01:36 am (UTC)
I hate The Hills but I love that gif.
schmiss 20th-Jan-2009 01:39 am (UTC)
It's the most inspid show imaginable but it provides amazing reaction shots. Possibly because they spend so much time re-shooting them.
queer_theory 20th-Jan-2009 01:37 am (UTC)
Oh Hitch. *sigh*
squid_ink 20th-Jan-2009 01:39 am (UTC)
Christopher Hitchens Demands ‘Tongue’ From Andrew Sullivan

*shiver*
schmiss 20th-Jan-2009 01:40 am (UTC)
I really wanted to believe it was a clever headline and we were actually going to find out he was telling Andrew Sullivan to hold his tongue or something.

I was wrong. :(
southern_heaven 20th-Jan-2009 01:40 am (UTC)
I thought it too. Oh homosexual undertones~
mercystars 20th-Jan-2009 02:18 am (UTC)
And yet, someone, somewhere, probably ships it...
raggedyanndy 20th-Jan-2009 01:40 am (UTC)
....?
saramiskismet 20th-Jan-2009 01:46 am (UTC)
I'm trying really hard to form a coherent opinion about this article, but it seems that the metaphorical cat has my tongue.
leelakin 20th-Jan-2009 01:58 am (UTC)
Okay, what a weird article. @_@
It's all "LOL ELEVATOR PARTY OMG GAY INNUENDO, btw. that dude said torture is your fault."
rreactiontime 20th-Jan-2009 02:01 am (UTC)
</i>“I want tongue. Give me tongue,” Hitchens implored, to no avail.</i>

I...think I will let Colin Farrell speak for me on this one.
rreactiontime 20th-Jan-2009 02:01 am (UTC)
html fail. sorry.
homasse 20th-Jan-2009 02:31 am (UTC)
I agree with Colin Farrell and add in Kyo.

D:
dancesontrains 20th-Jan-2009 02:02 am (UTC)
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kokosalaki 20th-Jan-2009 02:07 am (UTC)
I can't stand Christopher Hitchens.
silentinflames Well...20th-Jan-2009 09:39 am (UTC)
I never saw those hundreds of thousands of people protesting torture methods in the streets and in front of the white house and capitol when it got obvious they are used.

If you don't speak up, you agree. Simple.
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