
Haven't heard enough reasons why legalizing same-sex marriage will ruin society? Well, here's a new argumentagainst repealing it: It would hurt the black family unit!
"One overpowering cause of black social failure is the breakdown of marriage in the black community. Nationally, the black illegitimacy rate is 71%; in some inner city areas, it is closer to 90%," writes Heather Mac Donald, a former lawyer and Manhattan Institute fellow who says she believes gay marriage is inevitable. "When boys grow up without any expectation that they will have to marry the mother of their children, they fail to learn the most basic lesson of personal responsibility. A community without the marriage norm is teetering on the edge of civilizational collapse, if it has not already fallen into the abyss. Fatherless black boys, who themselves experience no pressure to become marriageable mates as they grow up, end up joining gangs, dropping out of school, and embracing a “street” lifestyle in the absence of any male authority in the home."
Right, okay, but what does that have to do with gays getting married? (Emphasis ours):
If the black illegitimacy rate were not nearly three times the rate of whites’, I would have few qualms about gay marriage. Or if someone can guarantee that widespread gay marriage would not further erode the expectation among blacks that marriage is the proper context for raising children, I would also not worry. But no one can make that guarantee.
Why might it further depress the black marriage rate? There is a logical reason and a visceral reason. First, it sends the signal that marriage is simply about numbers: it is an institution that binds two (for the moment) people who are in love. It erases completely the significance that marriage is THE context in which the children of biological parents should be raised. And there are undoubtedly many other subtle meanings and effects of gay marriage that we cannot even imagine at the moment—which institutional shift is something that conservatives should be most attuned to.
As for the visceral reason: It is no secret that resistance to homosexuality is highest among the black population (though probably other ethnic minorities are close contenders). I fear that it will be harder than usual to persuade black men of the obligation to marry the mother of their children if the inevitable media saturation coverage associates marriage with homosexuals. Is the availability of homosexual marriage a valid reason to shun the institution? No, but that doesn’t make the reaction any less likely.
What are the chances that gay marriage would further doom marriage among blacks? I don’t know. Again, if someone can persuade me that the chances are zero, then I would be much more sanguine. But anything more than zero, I am reluctant to risk.
Is it fair to those gays who want to marry that their desires should be thwarted for the sake of black boys?Maybe not. And as has been pointed out many times before, it is exclusively heterosexuals who have eroded the institution of marriage through easy divorce, increasing rates of single-parenting, “blended” families, and co-habitation. But just because marriage is already in bad shape, for reasons wholly unrelated to gay marriage, doesn’t mean that gay marriage won’t weaken it further.
If only Ms. Mac Donald could remember a time when whites thought allowing interracial marriage would somehow destroy their unions — and not only how the moral logic didn't hold up, but neither did the theory.
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if the inevitable media saturation coverage associates marriage with homosexuals
really? really??
Is this true? If it is this surprises me greatly.
Also, lol at an institution that binds two (for the moment), and wtf at marriage is THE context in which the children of biological parents should be raised. Cos who the fuck cares about adopted kids, foster kids, step-children, protectorates of the state, etc. Amirite?
I was writing comments as I read, but there's so much WTF that I cannot even begin to comment, really. Also laughing at the idea that author is unwilling to risk a single Britney Spears-marriage for the sake of "black boys" or gay marriage.
Of course, the fact that they hate each other might make things a little difficult. XD
If the numbers are really that high, then maybe there's a bigger problem that should be addressed.
The bolded part is just ridiculous.
CRAZIEST THING I'VE READ IN...A REALLY LONG TIME
Marriage is Only for Procreation, Bigotus 12:86.
*yawn*
Also, I love watching people who use that argument flounder around when you go, "So, men and women who are unable to have kids shouldn't get married."
WHUT.
That writer must have not heard the whoosh over her head when coming up with this argument.
o_O?
Because I see no sources or footnotes (especially for that MORE BLACK MEN ARE IN THE CLOSET!!!1 or whatever bullshit) in her article.
LMAO.
These people have 12 sided dice. They roll three of them to come up with these ridiculous stories.
"Okay, I got minority issues, personal responsibility, and gays! How do I tie this all together?"
It's like a new failboat party game.
"will you marry me?"
"ew, no! marriage is for gays, and white people."
"What do you call it when a guy is gay for a girl?"
"Straight?"
ONTD_P does not fail when it comes to gifs.
it will be harder than usual to persuade black men of the obligation to marry the mother of their children
Is she trying to say that getting married because there are kids is a good idea? Because fuck that. You should get married because you want to spend your life together, not because you procreated. If a mother and father have a strained relationship or if the father is a total douchebag his presence is not going to magically make the kids' lives all better. In all likeliness it'll make things worse.
My mom got married twice for my sake because she thought I needed a father. The first time to my alcoholic pothead father and, after she finally left him, my step father, who turned out to be an emotionally abusive control freak who wouldn't even let her visit her own family. Thank god she got it right the third time.
Marriage for the sake of children alone is never a good idea.
And could it kill them to cite some resources? Spouting off bullshit is not going to win you any friends. >_>
The whole binary approach to family formation is what really bugs me here. That somehow the only form of family that works is 2 straight parents with kids having procreative sex. No other family structure is considered a family in any way! Multigenerational? no. Blended? no. Adopted? no. Foster? no. Single? no.
That BLENDED is looked down on here is baffling. Really? You want the ideal family structure to be mom, dad, and kids. So if a parent dies and the surviving spouse wants to remarry, blended families don't count?
(related: high death by violence and incarceration rates may be the major reason for disintegration of black marriage. You can't marry someone that's not there.)
The KIDS are having sex? o_O
Sorry, comic relief desperately needed.
You know years and years ago (1980's and early '90's) I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh. Back in the day he actually had some points. I'd be sitting there, listening, and then he would make some out of the blue comment that didn't follow at all. Suddenly I'd go from, 'you have a point' to 'where the hell did that come from?!' Eventually I stopped listening because nothing he said followed logically from anything else he had said. Apparently the conservatives have decided that since it worked so well for Rush it will work for all of them. I really hope they are wrong.