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GOP Senator Graham: Public Health Care "Needs To Go Away"

12:47 pm - 06/21/2009
Graham Open To Dem's Health Care Compromise, But Not Public Plan (VIDEO)

Senator Lindsey Graham became the latest Republican and most conservative Senator yet to express a willingness to consider a compromise approach to health care reform based around co-ops providing insurance coverage.

The South Carolina Republican, appearing on ABC's "This Week," set a firm line in the sand when discussing the creation of a public option for insurance, insisting that such a proposal would not pass the United States Senate.

"The reason you are not going to have a government-run health care pass the Senate is because it will be devastating for this country,"
he said. "The last thing in the world I think that Democrats and Republicans will do at the end of the day is create a government-run health care system."

Later in the program, however, Graham offered what his co-panelist Sen. Chris Dodd and former Labor Secretary Robert Reich (who appeared later in the show) both viewed as openness to compromise. A system of state-based co-ops -- which would be run as non-profit entities, subject to private insurance rules, and operating out of the premiums paid by its members -- could be an adequate substitute for a public plan, he said.

"I think this idea needs to go away," Graham said of a public plan, "and replace it with something maybe like [Senator] Kent Conrad's proposal."


Obama May Lack Votes for Health-Care, Feinstein Says

President Barack Obama may not have enough votes in the U.S. Senate to pass his effort to overhaul the nation’s health-care system, California Democrat Dianne Feinstein said.

“I don’t know that he has the votes right now,” Feinstein said today on CNN’s “State of the Union” program. “I think there’s a lot of concern in the Democratic caucus.” Controlling costs of the new system is a “difficult subject.”

Republican Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana said on the same program that the overhaul should be done slowly, and not this year, to ensure it doesn’t “threaten the basic structure of the economy.”

Congress is working to meet an October deadline that Obama, a Democrat, set for signing the legislation into law. As a presidential candidate he pledged to expand coverage to the 46 million people who lack health insurance while lowering the cost of a system of care that makes up 17 percent of the economy.

Iowa Republican Senator Charles Grassley said on CNN that the Senate Finance Committee is “dialing down some of our expectations” of the legislation in response to an estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office that earlier options under consideration would cost $1.6 trillion.

“Our goal is affordability,” said Grassley, who is the top-ranked Republican on the finance panel.

‘Running Away’

Senators from both parties are wary of health-care overhaul because of the $1.6 trillion cost estimate, Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said on ABC’s “This Week” program today. The budget office calculation “was a death blow to government-run health care plan,” he said.

Democratic senators are “running away from the government- run health care where the bureaucrat stands between the doctor and the patient,” Graham said. The Finance Committee “has abandoned” the plan, he said.

Democratic Senator Bob Casey of Pennsylvania said the idea of delaying action on the legislation until next year is a mistake.

The last thing the American people “want us to do is to wait and delay for 2010 or 2011, because this is the economic threat to our country,” Casey said. “If we don’t get this right and get it done, American families are going to pay far too much.”

Most Americans are willing to pay higher taxes so everyone can have health insurance and back a government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers, according to a New York Times/CBS News poll. The poll of 895 adults conducted June 12-16 had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
[info]___plasticxlove 21st-Jun-2009 09:25 pm (UTC)
Not good enough!
[info]thewoman_76 21st-Jun-2009 09:29 pm (UTC)
Can someone explain to me why public health care would be so bad for the US. It seems to me that every single nation but the United States has health care for everyone. What am I missing?
[info]popehippo 21st-Jun-2009 09:30 pm (UTC)
HA. You beat me to it. V.V
[info]popehippo 21st-Jun-2009 09:29 pm (UTC)
Okay, I'm *NOT* a huge math-loving, economy savvy person. So...

How exactly would this getting passed ruin the economy?
[info]sunoftheskye 21st-Jun-2009 10:21 pm (UTC)
Uh, if anything wouldn't it help the economy, given the fact that most bankruptcies are the result of health care debts?
[info]flowerings 21st-Jun-2009 09:39 pm (UTC)
lol, it's okay to get this nation into debt over a stupid, pointless war but paying for OMGZ HEALTH CARE is horrible thing.

Fuck them.
[info]___plasticxlove 21st-Jun-2009 09:46 pm (UTC)
THIS THIS THIS

Killing ~them there terrorists~ is more important than securing decent health coverage for the American populace.

Edited at 2009-06-21 09:47 pm (UTC)
[info]escherichiacola 21st-Jun-2009 09:39 pm (UTC)
The reason you are not going to have a government-run health care pass the Senate is because it will be devastating for this country

Banks crashed because of Fannie Mae. FDR caused the Great Depression. War is peace

Edited at 2009-06-21 09:40 pm (UTC)
[info]roboplege 21st-Jun-2009 09:50 pm (UTC)
A+ for a combination of a great comment and great icon
[info]nothingmuch 21st-Jun-2009 09:41 pm (UTC)
The South Carolina Republican, appearing on ABC's "This Week," set a firm line in the sand when discussing the creation of a public option for insurance, insisting that such a proposal would not pass the United States Senate.

Of course it would. There are 59 Democratic senators, and thanks to reconciliation, it only needs 51 votes.

"The reason you are not going to have a government-run health care pass the Senate is because it will be devastating for this country," he said.

You mean like the way Medicare, Medicaid and the VA have devastated this country? lol no


Republican Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana said on the same program that the overhaul should be done slowly, and not this year, to ensure it doesn’t “threaten the basic structure of the economy.”


You know, that might not be such a bad idea... 72% of this country supports a public option. If Republicans keep blocking health care reform until the mid-term elections, there will probably be even fewer Republicans in the House and Senate to gum up the works next time around.

Edited at 2009-06-21 09:46 pm (UTC)
[info]gretchystretchy 21st-Jun-2009 10:17 pm (UTC)
Or, as a preferable alternative, Lindsey Graham could go away.
[info]blergg 21st-Jun-2009 10:25 pm (UTC)
Damn, you beat me to it.
[info]excusemesenator 21st-Jun-2009 10:21 pm (UTC)
What's that, Lindsey? It's hard to understand you when you have the insurance industry's dick in your mouth.
[info]missmurchison 21st-Jun-2009 11:11 pm (UTC)
[info]sunoftheskye 21st-Jun-2009 10:21 pm (UTC)
I love seeing Republicans scream and stomp their feet like 3 year olds.
[info]syndicalist 21st-Jun-2009 10:37 pm (UTC)
"The last thing in the world I think that Democrats and Republicans will do at the end of the day is create a government-run health care system."

Okay, so leave the Republicans out and have the Dems do it without them!
[info]rattus_aerius 21st-Jun-2009 10:41 pm (UTC)
"The reason you are not going to have a government-run health care pass the Senate is because it will be devastating for this country the insurance companies don't want it and we're their bitches."

There. Fixed that for you Senator Asshat.
[info]___closetome 21st-Jun-2009 11:27 pm (UTC)
mte
[info]___closetome 21st-Jun-2009 11:27 pm (UTC)
The only fucking reason politicians are against public health care is because they get $$$ from insurance companies who don't want to stop being cold heartless corporations based solely on profit, not the well being of actual people.
Insurance companies are shitting their pants at the mere thought of this.
FUCK 'EM.
[info]schmanda 21st-Jun-2009 11:43 pm (UTC)
[info]___closetome 22nd-Jun-2009 12:32 am (UTC)
LMFAO
[info]___closetome 22nd-Jun-2009 12:54 am (UTC)
Private insurance rules? It seems like the only "rules" insurance companies play by are their own. What I'll never understand is why people pay a shitload of money for "insurance", and the insurance company turns around and never wants to pay for SHIT. What's the point? You could put your own money aside at the same rate you would pay an insurance company in an account that collects interest and call it the "in case shit happens" fund. It's all a fucking game. The insurance companies play a fucking game at the cost of your life. The thing in SIcko that stuck out the most to me and is probably the biggest point: when an American moved to France and filled out a form that asked about any pre-existing conditions and freaked out and was like 'oh shit what am I gonna put omg' until he realized that they're not asking to penalize or deny him, they're asking so they can help him. He went whoa. I went whoa, any American who didn't know that was a possibility went whoa.
We spend the most on health care in this country and we have squat to show for it. How many people have died because they weren't insured, and how many died because their insurance sucked and it was virtually as if they had none. It's fucking weak lame ass bullshit and it's fucking 2009 and America is so backwards I don't even know anymore.

Edited at 2009-06-22 12:57 am (UTC)
[info]andyh3000 22nd-Jun-2009 06:11 pm (UTC)
I feel you. Write your elected representatives, perhaps even daily (fuck 'em, let 'em know) to show that they've got a choice between taking money from insurers for political favors or losing so many votes that they are defeated next election and suddenly not so many people will be backing up Brinks trucks to their homes.
[info]zgirl714 22nd-Jun-2009 06:31 am (UTC)
yes.
[info]tvisgood 23rd-Jun-2009 03:32 am (UTC)
It's always fun when people who HAVE health insurance don't want to give it to people who don't.
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