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1:00 pm - 08/06/2009

DART: Controversial Bus Ads Pulled

Officials Say Signs Never Approved In First Place


DES MOINES, Iowa --

Atheist advertising signs on Des Moines Area Regional Transit buses that created a storm of controversy when they first went up on Aug. 1 have been taken down.

Officials with DART said the signs were not supposed to be on the buses in the first place.

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I'm part of IAF. I saw one of the news segments (Ch. 13/NBC, not Ch. 8/CBS). The woman was told DART accepted church ads, why not these. She couldn't answer.

You'd think, with DART being in hot water (with one hitting a pedestrian recently, and some of their drivers having...less than stellar backgrounds) they wouldn't want to open this can of worms.
zharia 6th-Aug-2009 06:05 pm (UTC)
FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL.

My mother was all up in arms about THEM ATHEISTS HAVING TO BE SO UP IN EVERYONE'S FACE WHY CAN'T THEY JUST LET US BE. I politely pointed out that the ads were aimed at other atheist and were completely non-confrontational. WELL I DON'T CARE, WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION.

D:
roboplege 6th-Aug-2009 06:08 pm (UTC)
"WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION"

That makes my piss boil with rage.
lissibith 6th-Aug-2009 06:07 pm (UTC)
Seriously? I can't think of any less offensive way to advertise an atheist group. And people are so insecure in their own religion that they don't want to even get on a bus with this ad on it?

Sometimes things like this make me ashamed to be a theist.
childish for those who do not want to click.6th-Aug-2009 06:09 pm (UTC)
Atheist advertising signs on Des Moines Area Regional Transit buses that created a storm of controversy when they first went up on Aug. 1 have been taken down.

Officials with DART said the signs were not supposed to be on the buses in the first place.

DART's advertising director said the board never approved the signs and that they were put up by mistake. The Iowa Atheist and Free Thinkers group said the advertising director told them that the signs had been approved.

"When she met with us on May 27, we showed her the ads and asked if this could be controversial and she said she didn't think so," said the group's president, Randy Henderson. "She thought it was a nice ad, a safe ad."

The ads that went up on Saturday read, "Don't believe in God? You are not alone."

DART said it immediately started to receive complaints.

"Drivers said people weren't getting on buses or getting off the buses because of it," said advertising director Kirstin Baer-Harding. "So with all the calls, it wasn't something we wanted."

The signs came down on Aug. 4. Baer-Harding said they never should have gone up.

"The ads mistakenly got put on buses," she said.

She said DART has the final say on any advertisements and its board decided at the last minute that it didn't like the content. She said the mistake slipped in amid last week's chaos with the DART-pedestrian crash and the release of its first hybrid bus.

Members of the Iowa Atheist and Free Thinkers Group said they're upset because no one from DART will take their calls. They only received a brief e-mail.

"In that e-mail, it said they've received an overwhelming number of calls and the ads have been pulled," said Henderson.

"We were just trying to reach out to our audience," said member Lily Kryuchkov. "We weren't aiming against religious groups, so we don't understand why people are upset."

"We have our rights to free speech and we feel those have been violated," said Henderson.

The group said it had planned to run the ad on 20 buses throughout the month of August in hopes of capitalizing on the large number of people riding buses during the Iowa State Fair.

The group said it was waiting to hear back from DART before deciding what it will do next. Members said they hadn't paid any money for the signs yet because they hadn't received an invoice.
crazycarrie2006 6th-Aug-2009 06:09 pm (UTC)
GOD FORBID THEY PULL CHRISTIAN ADS FROM THE BUS!
crazycarrie2006 6th-Aug-2009 06:10 pm (UTC)
Oops - caps locked sorry. LOL but still.
jwaneeta 6th-Aug-2009 06:12 pm (UTC)
I for one, am certain that my faith would be destroyed by a bus ad.

I'm sorry, Jesus, but it's up to the Churrrrch Groups to defend me -- just as well I wasn't born in the days of lions and boiling pitch.

unusualmusic 6th-Aug-2009 06:13 pm (UTC)
Ahh Christians. So many of them seem to feel that no one else has any right to talk about their beliefs.
anwuya 6th-Aug-2009 06:19 pm (UTC)
I'm so sure I've seen that before - I remember feeling so furious at the first sentence because I was pretty certain what the second would entail (the clouds made me think of the heaven I will never go to) but then I felt much better when I read all of the rest of it, especially because the wording is so gentle.

This is my first comment here! :)
musicological 6th-Aug-2009 06:20 pm (UTC)
That is about as unoffensive as you can get. Christians like to pretend that the rest of us don't exist, that voices other than theirs shouldn't be heard, and I'm sick. of. it.
chimbleysweep 6th-Aug-2009 06:30 pm (UTC)
It's not like atheists ever have to see anything religious.

Oh, wait.
mylaptopisevil 6th-Aug-2009 06:32 pm (UTC)
"We were just trying to reach out to our audience," said member Lily Kryuchkov. "We weren't aiming against religious groups, so we don't understand why people are upset."

Bullshit.

The problem with these ads is that they're specifically trying to create waves. It's that the ads said "Don't believe in God?" is what specifically caused an issue, because it tried to create an "opponent" with another group. It's similar to if a Jewish organization said "Disagree with the Koran? TRY JEWS!" or if a Protestant organization said "Tired of the Torah? CHECK US OUT!"

[Personally I think Protestants should reach out to youth by starting a "I got 95 Theses but a Pope ain't One" campaign but hey that's just me.]
dearmisterecho 6th-Aug-2009 06:48 pm (UTC)
"I got 95 Theses but a Pope ain't One"

yeah I was going to reply to this post with my own outrage but this shit made me laugh too much and made me simmer down lmao
fenris_lorsrai 6th-Aug-2009 06:42 pm (UTC)
I so want your icon on a T-shirt.
mylaptopisevil 6th-Aug-2009 06:43 pm (UTC)
TOO SOON
frontyardninja 6th-Aug-2009 06:46 pm (UTC)
lol, DART is in so much shit.

My mom called me, all excited, when she saw the news last night. She works downtown, I think it's too much personal fun for her.
rawbery79 6th-Aug-2009 07:11 pm (UTC)
Oh, Des Moines...
afa_mom 6th-Aug-2009 07:34 pm (UTC)
now you atheists know how it feels
nykeyoung 6th-Aug-2009 07:39 pm (UTC)
I didn't know Christians were having their ads taken off of buses.
dancesontrains 6th-Aug-2009 07:41 pm (UTC)
THE ~TONE~ WAS ALL WRONG OK

And OP, I love your icon :D
thedastardfunk 6th-Aug-2009 07:48 pm (UTC)
I fully agree with this:

"We were just trying to reach out to our audience," said member Lily Kryuchkov. "We weren't aiming against religious groups, so we don't understand why people are upset."

Although I do understand why people got butthurt, they really shouldn't have. So ridiculous.
iluvhistory 6th-Aug-2009 09:30 pm (UTC)
Now if only they'd take down the pro-life photoshopped stillborn ads off of buses too :/
cookie_nut 6th-Aug-2009 09:40 pm (UTC)
As far as I'm aware my local dart has ads for restaurants and the lottery. Nothing religious. :/ I guess it depends on the area. If they can run ads for one religious group, they can run them for whoever asks. Otherwise, ban the practice entirely.
akuma_river 6th-Aug-2009 10:12 pm (UTC)
...you know Christians are the reason I'm not with the Church. They are the most hate-mongering religion I've seen yet.
gundamtsubasa 6th-Aug-2009 11:05 pm (UTC)
They're also the reason I refer to myself as a "recovering Catholic." Priests are generally pretty cool and laid back since they actually had to study their holy book and know what's in it. The laity, on the other hand? Talk about filled with bile, hate, and rage with a veneer of disingenuous concern on top.
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