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Comic-Books & Race ‘09 Part 1: Open Thread

9:42 pm - 09/11/2009

by Special Correspondent Arturo R. García

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Seemingly lost amid the news of Disney’s acquisition of Marvel Comics was this post by Marvel Executive Editor Tom Breevort, where a question about non-American comic-book leads yielded this rather candid response:

Because we’re an American company whose primary distribution is centered around America, the great majority of our existing audience seems to be white American males. So while within that demographic you’ll find people who are interested in a wide assortment of characters of diverse ethnicities and backgrounds, whenever your leads are white American males, you’ve got a better chance of reaching more people overall.

Boom! Studios head Mark Waid commented on the issue at Comic Book Resources:

In the original post, Tom makes it abundantly clear that he’s not sure he has an answer, isn’t sure he knows THE answer, but that he’s hazarding a guess. And while Tom’s syntax following that is a little blunt…man, I wish it were wrong, but it’s not. Every comics publisher ever, including BOOM!, can tell you maddening tales of retailers who, even now, in the 21st century, are hesitant to order books with non-white, non-American leads because their community won’t support them. It’s absurd, it’s crazy-making, I don’t know what it’s going to take to change that other than time…but like it or not, it is an unfortunate truth of the time in which we live.

Needless to say, there’s a few layers to this discussion. But rather than try to wrap it all up into one post, I figured we’d start by getting your take on the matter. Is it a matter of “not supporting” POC superheroes, or the industry that creates them? Is it a case of creative and business inertia? What do you think?

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box_in_the_box It's like this:12th-Sep-2009 04:21 am (UTC)
Peter and Michelle are roommates, but Michelle does not like or respect Peter.

At a wedding reception, Peter and Michelle both have too much to drink - Peter gets BLACKOUT drunk, to the point that he can't even REMEMBER the rest of the night - and he wakes up in bed next to Michelle. The fact that he can't remember what they did pisses her off so much that she screams at him to get out of the apartment.

Next up, the Chameleon poses as Peter, and goes back to Michelle's apartment. She's calmed down, but she still tells "Peter" (or rather, the Chameleon, who she thinks is Peter) that it's best if he leaves. Without a single word, the Chameleon walks up to her and kisses her, and in spite of being so pissed off before that she was threatening to MURDER Peter, she lets (who she thinks is) Peter fuck her right there, literally ON THE KITCHEN FLOOR.

When Peter escapes the Chameleon's lair, he finds that Michelle now considers the two of them to be "dating," and he realizes that this must be because the Chameleon had sex with her, while wearing his face, but he doesn't say anything.

Here's why this is rape:

Michelle consented to have sex with Peter - albeit while being written in an incredibly misogynistic way - but she did NOT consent to have sex with the Chameleon, so even though she doesn't know it, the Chameleon raped her. And by not telling her that it was the Chameleon who had sex with her, Peter is protecting a rapist.
keeni84 Re: It's like this:12th-Sep-2009 04:36 am (UTC)

Michelle consented to have sex with Peter - albeit while being written in an incredibly misogynistic way - but she did NOT consent to have sex with the Chameleon, so even though she doesn't know it, the Chameleon raped her. And by not telling her that it was the Chameleon who had sex with her, Peter is protecting a rapist.


EXACTLY.

What the hell are they thinking? WHAT THE HELL?

I cannot believe this storyline. What. The. Fuck.
box_in_the_box Even the pro-BND posters on the scans comms ...12th-Sep-2009 04:37 am (UTC)
... Were totally disgusted by it.
homasse Re: It's like this:12th-Sep-2009 12:30 pm (UTC)
In short: asdfghjkl;
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