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FRENCH VOGUE MAKES THIS INTERESTING COUNTPOINT TO ITALIAN VOGUE'S "ALL BLACK WOMEN" ISSUE LAST YEAR!

5:18 pm - 10/14/2009
Less than a week after Hey Hey It's Saturday's now infamous "blackface" skit, fashion bible French Vogue has sparked controversy by painting a white model black for a photo shoot.

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Bloggers and readers appear to be evenly split about the effect and meaning of the images.

In the US, blog site Jezebel led the condemnation, accusing the magazine of cultural insensitivity.

"What Klein and Roitfeld should know … is that painting white people black for the entertainment of other white people is offensive in ways that stand entirely apart from cultural context," Jezebel reported.

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But not all readers and bloggers were convinced. On The Guardian's website, 'seanthorpe' wrote: “The American cultural imperialists of the Anglosphere are out in force again. The same dickheads tried to get a Nigerian production stopped in the west end because the actors were whiting up. Not everybody who attempts to portray somebody whose skin is a different colour than their own is Al f---ing Jolson.

London's newspapers quickly picked up the story and referred to Hey Hey's Red Faces Jackson Five sketch, which left singer Harry Connick Jr "visibly shocked".

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vitaminvi 14th-Oct-2009 09:40 pm (UTC)
Oh no...
soba_kasu 16th-Oct-2009 10:45 pm (UTC)
what i love about this story is that everyone cries racism as if theres a board of people sitting around going "lets do a shoot with cool contrast but lets not use a BLACK model because i am racist lets do BLACK face it will be so edgy because we cant wait to bring down black people BWAHAHAHHA"
lets take a look at the rest of the shoot.

OH NO ITS CRACKLY WHITE FACE ALL OLD WHITE PEOPLE SHOULD BE OFFENDED

OH NO SHE HAS A BIRD MASK ON ALL BIRDS SHOULD BE OFFENDED

OH NO SHES PAINTED PART BLACK PART WHITE PEOPLE WITH VITILIGO SHOULD BE OFFENDED

Keep getting your panties in a knot about nothing ontd_p
agentsculder 14th-Oct-2009 09:43 pm (UTC)
I would LOVE to know who thought this was good idea.

But then, maybe in France people are less sensitive about this. All I know is, if this was in the US Vogue, Anna Wintour would be in HUGE trouble.
fauxparadiso 14th-Oct-2009 09:44 pm (UTC)
I made a thread about this in ONTD, but I think it got skewed because the main issue with that article was whether or not this was blackface.

After thinking this over, I don't think it was an issue of blackface (although I'm amazed at some of the comments who said it couldn't possibly even be related to the ill-intentioned ways of blackface because she's entirely colored brown).

My bone to pick with this is the fact that models of color are always shunned or viewed as lesser beauties, but suddenly it's beautiful once it's just paint on a light skinned model. The situation is even crappier because there were NO models of color in this issue.
fauxparadiso 14th-Oct-2009 09:46 pm (UTC)
Oh, and the original ONTD thread for those who want to facepalm: http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/40042139.html
layweed 14th-Oct-2009 09:46 pm (UTC)
I don't get the point of this. I mean, seriously. How is blackface supposed to enhance the photo shoot any? I don't get it.
hyacinthian 14th-Oct-2009 09:47 pm (UTC)
I just - I don't even ... people can't understand why other people think this is offensive? Really?
escherichiacola 14th-Oct-2009 09:48 pm (UTC)
World Race Fail '09
piratesswoop 14th-Oct-2009 10:02 pm (UTC)
i lol'd
mserlenkoenigin 14th-Oct-2009 09:57 pm (UTC)
I love Lara Stone. But these photos? FAIL!
sadisticsidhe 14th-Oct-2009 09:57 pm (UTC)
Why do an All Black Women Issue of Vogue if you don't want to use black models? That is the part I really just don't get.
fauxparadiso 14th-Oct-2009 10:06 pm (UTC)
To get those bastards asking for diversity to shut up. *nod nod*


j/k. But apparently the Black Issue was done by Vogue Italy, not Vogue France.
violetrose 14th-Oct-2009 10:09 pm (UTC)
So, the whole world is out to show they're all a bunch of clueless idiots, and it's not just America that has race!fail, yes? Okay then.
schonste 14th-Oct-2009 10:13 pm (UTC)
Ahem,

lickety_split 14th-Oct-2009 10:14 pm (UTC)
Ugh, being black is so exhausting sometimes. The amount of fail we have to deal with on a daily basis should qualify all of us for medicinal marijuana cards.
dayumsam 14th-Oct-2009 10:18 pm (UTC)
that sure as hell beats excedrin: racial tension.
dayumsam 14th-Oct-2009 10:20 pm (UTC)
i can't see how they could possibly justify this in any sense, but has the magazine issued a statement explaining the vision of the shoot?

Vogue shoots are pretty interesting already, but this is just...wow.
tasheila 14th-Oct-2009 10:30 pm (UTC)
they won't. this is french vogue, carine roitfeld is known for not giving a fuck, lol.

it definitely makes her more exciting than anna wintour (who at least tries to pretend to be be pc) but sometimes it comes off as questionable judgment.
schmiss 14th-Oct-2009 10:24 pm (UTC)
DDDDD:
schmiss 14th-Oct-2009 10:25 pm (UTC)
Oh and as a sidenote to this, I saw an editorial a while ago in which the models were painted black - like, actual shiny graphite black. It was interesting and definitely cool looking but I did get a creeping feeling of "okay, this is bordering on blackface".

This? IS NOT BORDERING ON BLACKFACE, IT IS STRAIGHT-UP ~ARTISTIC~ BLACKFACE. This is the kind of thing Tropic Thunder was mocking, people.
veritasera 15th-Oct-2009 01:48 am (UTC)
Like the first few seconds of this?

How artistic skin-darkening can be, like artistic, aka doin' it right:



rex_dart 14th-Oct-2009 10:33 pm (UTC)
bussineskitty 14th-Oct-2009 10:34 pm (UTC)
as someone who live sin france blackface here does not have the same connotation as it does in the states
bussineskitty 14th-Oct-2009 10:38 pm (UTC)
I'm not saying I'm ok (cause hello its not) its just a cultural thing I guess:-/
omgangiepants 14th-Oct-2009 10:40 pm (UTC)
Fashion is so fucking stupid oh my god.
lickety_split 14th-Oct-2009 10:46 pm (UTC)
Okay, ignoring the body paint... what the fuck does she have on???
pennieblack 14th-Oct-2009 10:49 pm (UTC)
After the initial horror, this is exactly what I thought. Just- what?
stoichiometric 14th-Oct-2009 10:55 pm (UTC)
I've been a Vogue subscriber for years now, but this is the straw that breaks the camel's back. I know this is French Vogue's doing, but ... nah. I just want nothing to do with the brand now. :\
castalianspring 14th-Oct-2009 10:59 pm (UTC)
That is one fugly picture.
angedesoir 14th-Oct-2009 11:04 pm (UTC)
Srsly, black models are already a rarity in the fashion industry. >:(
stoichiometric This might be of interest to you?14th-Oct-2009 11:13 pm (UTC)
As an African-born, American-raised, black woman, I guess my knee jerk reaction is to be upset about white model Lara Stone being painted in blackface for French Vogue.

But alas, I am unbothered.

The fourteen-page spread, which was shot by legendary fashion photographer Steven Meisel and styled by French Vogue's equally legendary fashion editor, Carine Roitfeld shows Stone, arms akimbo, legs apart, in African-inspired garb. She is also painted black from head-to-toe. Sure, it's chic, but the hurtful, demeaning, insulting history of blackface could not have escaped the creative team behind this shoot, and so the ensuing outrage is predictable - and understandable.

THE REST.
randomneses 14th-Oct-2009 11:14 pm (UTC)
I really don't like when people are edgy just to be edgy.
homasse 14th-Oct-2009 11:38 pm (UTC)
Couldn't they at least do her lips the right color? Damn. And where the fuck are her eyebrows? The Whoopi Goldberg no-eyebrow look is not working.

As for anything else...
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