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'THIS IS A HEALTH CARE BILL, NOT AN ABORTION BILL'



In an interview with ABC News' Jake Tapper President Obama said he did not support any change in current abortion laws through the health care bill -- a implicit rebuke to the House for passing an amendment that could considerably restrict women's access to abortions. The president said that he doesn't want to change "the status quo" one way or another.

TAPPER: Here's a question a lot of Senate Democrats want to know. You said, when you gave your joint address to Congress, that under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions. This amendment passed Saturday night which not only prohibits abortion coverage in the public option, but also prohibits women who receive subsidies from taking out plans that -- that provide abortion coverage. Does that meet the promise that you set out or does it over reach, does it go too far?


OBAMA: You know, I laid out a very simple principle, which is this is a health care bill, not an abortion bill. And we're not looking to change what is the principle that has been in place for a very long time, which is federal dollars are not used to subsidize abortions. And I want to make sure that the provision that emerges meets that test -- that we are not in some way sneaking in funding for abortions, but, on the other hand, that we're not restricting women's insurance choices, because one of the pledges I made in that same speech was to say that if you're happy and satisfied with the insurance that you have, that it's not going to change. So, you know, this is going to be a complex set of negotiations. I'm confident that we can actually arrive at this place where neither side feels that it's being betrayed. But it's going to take some time.

TAPPER: Do you think that amendment is status quo or does it lean a little bit in one direction or the other?

OBAMA: I think that there are strong feelings on both sides. And what that tells me is that there needs to be some more work before we get to the point where we're not changing the status quo. And that's the goal. The goal here is to make sure that people who have health insurance have greater stability and security, people who don't have health insurance get the ability to buy it affordably and that we're driving down costs.

And, you know, I think everybody understands that there's going to be work to be done on the Senate side. It's not going to match up perfectly with the House side. But obviously, it was a historic night for the House. We've never been this far. And I'm very confident that my colleagues in the Senate are going to say to themselves that we've got to get this done.


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lickety_split 9th-Nov-2009 11:42 pm (UTC)
I got into the most FAIL CONVERSATION EVER on Facebook about health care... she wrote:

YEAHS OUR HEALTHCARE DOES SUCK A PiLE OF ASS...i HOPE THEY DONT COPY CANADA'S THOUGH BECAUSE i KNOW THAT LiKE PPL WiTH TERMiNAL DiSEASES LiKE CANCER HAVE TO WAiT OVER 6 MONTHS FOR A SiMPLE BLOOD TEST BECAUSE YOUR JUST A FUCKiNG NUMBER AND YOU DONT GET SERViCED OR HELPED UNTiL YOUR NUMBER iS CALLED SiNCE iTS RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT...AND i HEARD THAT UNDER THiS NEW REFORM THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE ELDERLY OR REALLY SiCK WiLL NOT BE ABLE TO BE TREATED ANYMORE BECAUSE THEiR GONNA DiE ANWAYS


She is 24-years old.
lickety_split 9th-Nov-2009 11:57 pm (UTC)
She writes everything in caps except for her i's, and she adds s's to the ends of random words, especially "haha".

Like, she'll type out HAHAHAHAHAS.

If you think this paragraph is bad, you should see the rest of the conversation. D:
to_biased 10th-Nov-2009 12:09 am (UTC)
There are already multiple "HA"s tho, why would she need to pluralize them?
kapt_krunk 9th-Nov-2009 11:46 pm (UTC)
was that weird to you? because it was weird for me.
anwuya 9th-Nov-2009 11:48 pm (UTC)
Did she have a bad experience in the waiting room at the DMV or what? Also, what's with the "i" thing?

The part that makes me the most irritated is the number part. We're all numbers NOW, like the number on our insurance card (if we are lucky enough to have one). Here are some additional numbers that all insurance providers will decide if I live or die on: 20, 61, 121, 1, 96/70 and 0. Oh yeah, real personal.
lickety_split 9th-Nov-2009 11:56 pm (UTC)
And that's only the BEGINNING of the conversation! You wouldn't believe the crap that she came up with afterward.
kapt_krunk 10th-Nov-2009 12:42 am (UTC)
you should put that whole conversation on that facebook fail website.
runawaynun 9th-Nov-2009 11:55 pm (UTC)
Aren't we all just our social security numbers?
violetrose 9th-Nov-2009 11:58 pm (UTC)
Yes, but that system is old, and has been in place for a longer time, therefore it's not new and scary to them.

Just give them a bouncy ball and something shiny, it'll distract them for a while. :D
runawaynun 10th-Nov-2009 12:02 am (UTC)
SOCIAL SECURITY IS SOCIALISM!!!

Although, I think some people thought SS# was the Mark of the Beast.
violetrose 9th-Nov-2009 11:57 pm (UTC)
So, what does she propose as a solution? Oh, let me guess, nothing.

I like how they all whine about it... but don't actually come up with any decent plan themselves.

Also, ffs, it's they're, not their.

Also, I don't know much about Canada's system, but I've heard it's similar to the NHS? In which case, that's a crock of shit. Really.
lickety_split 9th-Nov-2009 11:59 pm (UTC)
Well if you'd like more info on Canada's health care system, please don't hesitate to get your information from this wise individual...

iM SURE THAT iS ALL TRUE...AND i HOPE iT iS BUT THERES ALWAYS A CATCH/DOWNSiDE TO EVERYTHiNG MANS...WiLL OUR TAXES GO UP AS A RESULT OF THiS??? BECAUSE iM SURE AS HELL TiRED OF PAYiNG FOR iLLEGAL PEOPLE AND FUCKiNG LAZY ASS MUTHA FUCKERS SHiET ANYWAYS HAHAHAS...ALL THAT WELFARE AND WiC SHiET BLAH BLAH BLAH...FUCK EVERYONE WHO FUCKS UP iN SCHOOL AND... CRACKHEAD BABY MOMMAS

i JUST KEEP HEARiNG A LOT OF CRAP ABOUT HOW THiS REFORM iS MiRRORiNG CANADA'S SO THAT BETTER NOT BE TRUE BECAUSE i KNOW PEOPLE PERSONALLY THERE WHO EXPERiNCED THE SHiT i SAiD EARLiER MANS...EHH WHATEVER i HOPE ALL THiS SHiET BEiNG DONE JUST TURNS OUT ALL GOOD FOR EVERYONE BUT THERES GOTTA BE A NEGATiVE iT CANNOT BE 100% ALL GRAVY
ahkna 10th-Nov-2009 12:04 am (UTC)
No need to harsh on Canada. We have to wait, sure, but my 20 year old brother spent 6 weeks in the hospital, got great care and it didn't cost anything.
violetrose 10th-Nov-2009 12:08 am (UTC)
EXCEPT YOUR FREEDOM AND TAXES111!11one
runawaynun 10th-Nov-2009 12:15 am (UTC)
You mean, it's NOT LIKE HITLER AND THE JEWS?!?!
velocityofsound 10th-Nov-2009 12:12 am (UTC)
And that's why there are no old or sick people in Canada. Free healthcare killed them all.
violetrose 10th-Nov-2009 12:16 am (UTC)
It's all so clear now!

Healthcare will kill you!
snora 10th-Nov-2009 01:33 am (UTC)
What has my number do to with anything? Perhaps she is cranky because hers left her for speaking so dismissively of it in public?
recorded 10th-Nov-2009 12:31 pm (UTC)
I would never have a conversation with this person.
I would probably just be like, "write like a grown up before trying to act like one" or something. hahaha.
recorded ps10th-Nov-2009 12:32 pm (UTC)
I was going to read the other part of her reponse that you posted, but I just can't do it.

Haha so bad.
celtic_thistle 10th-Nov-2009 10:03 pm (UTC)
See, that's bullshit. I was born in Canada and that is a flat lie. I know nobody who's ever had problems with the Canadian health care system, and you can quote me on that.
___closetome 10th-Nov-2009 10:18 pm (UTC)
24 years old and still writes like that? I weep for humanity.
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