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Borders to trash thousands of unsold book during Waldenbooks closing

4:06 pm - 01/19/2010
As an avid reader, books are a sacred thing. They have opened up so many new worlds for me. Emily Bronte and Emily Dickinson may have rarely left their respective homes in Haworth, England and Amherst, Massachusetts. But thanks to books, their words went all over the world. And over 100 years later, I got to know them and their powerful prose. I met Coco Chanel the same way, by pouring over books about her life, her collections and her perfumes.

As illiteracy rates soar worldwide, I believe more books are needed to reach those who can't afford them to help open new worlds for others. That is why I am distressed to learn that Borders books may be dumping books when closing its Waldenbooks Specialty Retail group. Publisher's Weekly reports that Borders Group will shut approximately 200 outlets this January. I understand that businesses are struggling and stores are closing, but what happens when a bookstore goes down? Apparently, the books are discarded. Back in 2009, Waldenbooks employees spoke to Huffington Post: "Current Waldenbooks employees have come forward to alert the public that the company plans to dispose of many unsold books in the cheapest, easiest, least responsible way possible -- by trashing them."


Check out the Facebook group called "Tell BORDERS: DO NOT DUMPSTER BOOKS when Waldenbooks closes - DONATE!" Discarded books could find homes at libraries, homeless shelters, senior centers, Boys & Girls Clubs, and at numerous charities. Let's see if Borders will respond as H&M did last week to stop needless waste. I hope so. I am publishing this post to make the public aware of this and try to save a few precious books.

Borders, the ghost of the Brontes and Emily Dickinson are calling! And do you really want to deal with Edgar Allen Poe too? I see The Raven circling Waldenbooks now and tapping, tapping," From my books surcease of sorrow -- Nameless here for evermore."
Pictured: Edgar Allen Poe. Clearly, someone not to be "trifled" with :)

My sources tell me that Poe is very powerful and that his words are positively haunting. His voice is chilling. I would not want to deal with his wrath. Don't throw out his writings or beware for evermore!

Source

I saw this on a booksellers mailing list and some stores had reported being called by local Waldenbooks trying to offload stuff fast. Others confirmed that Half Price books also engages in large scale book trashing. I generally only chuck stuff at my store if its actually DAMAGED, as in water stained, missing pages, etc. Excess either goes to Goodwill/Salvation Army, the library booksale, the domestic violence shelter, or to Iraq and Afghanistan through Operation Paperback. There's tons of outlets to donate too. No reason to dump these.

EDIT: got books you can't use anymore? Places to donate books include:
* thrift stores
* local library sale
* Nursing homes
* domestic violence shelters
* prisons
* literacy programs
* veterans hospitals
* hospice
* Operation paperback
* damaged books can be donated to preschools or your local art program for use in art projects
* do a google search for book donation in your local area and you'll probably turn up some group looking for books
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[info]thewoman_76 19th-Jan-2010 09:09 pm (UTC)
Even if I hate a book I NEVER trow it away! I have too much respect for them.
[info]fenris_lorsrai 19th-Jan-2010 09:12 pm (UTC)
There's a trash hauler that sporadically comes in with a stack of books for me when he finds someone has put a whole box of them on the curb. Often they appear to have been read once.

I just don't get that. Give them to someone else!
[info]usedshoes 19th-Jan-2010 09:11 pm (UTC)
Oh my poor weak heart ;___;
[info]veritasera 19th-Jan-2010 09:14 pm (UTC)
This is so crazy. Forget the part about books being sacred. Haven't these people ever heard of book drives? Schools, libraries, shelters, anything? Good Lord.

Illogical.

Edited at 2010-01-19 09:14 pm (UTC)
[info]preeho 19th-Jan-2010 09:17 pm (UTC)
ugh borders. epic fail.

There are PLENTY of places that will take the donations. Children's books can go to Room To Read. And adult books can go to retirement homes, libraries, schools, there are so many places. what the eff.
[info]sarken 19th-Jan-2010 09:29 pm (UTC)
Seriously. All Christmas season, my Borders would ask, "Would you like to donate a children's book to the Ronald McDonald House?"

Um, Borders? Two and two are lonely and would like to be put together.

Edit: Never mind, I see the explanation below. Completely forgot about the destroyed books thing.

Edited at 2010-01-19 09:31 pm (UTC)
[info]properly_stored 19th-Jan-2010 09:17 pm (UTC)
...PEOPLE THROW BOOKS AWAY!? D: I currently have two incredibly water damaged books in my room, but since they're still vaguely readable, they're not getting thrown out.

Even if the thought didn't just give me the heebie jeebies right away...why not just donate?
[info]alierakieron 19th-Jan-2010 09:18 pm (UTC)
Having worked at a book store, there is, sadly, a financial issue here. Books that are dumpstered can be completely written off as "Destroyed and unsold". There is, however, a limit on donations that can be deducted.
[info]f13tch3r 19th-Jan-2010 09:26 pm (UTC)
But can't they simply remove the covers, call them destroyed and then donate them? I used to volunteer at a hospital and we received many donated "destroyed" books (all in perfect condition minus the front cover).
[info]schnuggleme 19th-Jan-2010 09:22 pm (UTC)
The only bookstore (albeit a B&N) in my hometown is closing down in a few months and I can see this happening there too. CAN'T HANDLE IT. ;______;
[info]dyfferent 19th-Jan-2010 09:24 pm (UTC)
They cannot do this legally, as it would violate the terms of their agreement with publishers and they would then be sued.
[info]dyfferent 19th-Jan-2010 09:25 pm (UTC)
This = give away a whole bunch of basically new books

The deal is if unsold the books are returned for credit OR destroyed if they're either not in perfect condition or if they've gone unsold past the terms of the contract.
[info]lizzelizzel 19th-Jan-2010 09:30 pm (UTC)
I think that's understandable. They are a business. Any solution that's not completely wasteful, for their company ad everyone else, is preferrable.
[info]f13tch3r 19th-Jan-2010 09:24 pm (UTC)
Gah! this hurts me deeply. Books are sacred to me and the very thought of thousand of them being needlessly discarded when they could be donated to many worthy places that need them, makes my chest ache.
[info]lizzelizzel 19th-Jan-2010 09:29 pm (UTC)
Yikes. Well...I mean, if they're shitty self help books then I say feel free to junk 'em, but even then try to compost them or something, haha, but yeah that is sad.
I've had to get rid of mine as I've moved around, but even then I put them on Freecycle, thrift store, and we have a coffee shop that encourages people to leave and take books from their shelves as they please.
[info]alierakieron 19th-Jan-2010 09:35 pm (UTC)
That's the thing. Places don't trash books that can be sold elsewhere. We're talking about the extra 300 copies of the latest Danielle Steele. I love my books too, but can't bring myself to get too exercised about the practice.
[info]jwaneeta 19th-Jan-2010 09:34 pm (UTC)
AUUUGHHHHH how many inner city schools could use some of those books AUGH THIS HURTS PHYSICALLY

http://www.kinf.org/help/
http://www.ed.gov/about/inits/ed/bookcampaign/index.html
http://www.booksforamerica.org/

The list is endless. Take the deduction and send the books, Borders, or fail FOREVER.

[info]rex_dart 19th-Jan-2010 09:36 pm (UTC)
Keep in mind that a lot of these books that are being thrown out (largely due to publisher contracts) are books you probably wouldn't want pawned off on you. I went into a Waldenbooks recently and bought some Star Wars visual guide or whatnot (I'll buy anything with a Star Wars logo if the price is right) and that place was really getting down to the dregs of what most people would consider readable. Lots of self-help books and that kind of thing, and everything else was still getting very actively picked over.

I feel bad that books are being thrown away, but when I think about what was left at the store I went to, I don't know who would actually want most of them.
[info]lizzelizzel 19th-Jan-2010 11:34 pm (UTC)
I've never seen much in Waldenbooks either. Lotsa 'The Big Book of Cats' shit.
[info]pottergirl26 19th-Jan-2010 09:38 pm (UTC)
This pains my soul. It's downright wasteful.
[info]juunanagou18 19th-Jan-2010 09:38 pm (UTC)
Trash? Books? Are you fucking serious? Donate that to schools or children's hospitals! Give them to your younger family members who are in school!

I gave away a lot of my collection before I went off to to college to my old private school and kept the books I knew my little brother would one day have to read in school (Diary of Anne Frank, which he is reading now, Moby Dick, To Kill A Mockingbird, The Great Gatsby, etc).
[info]firerosearien 19th-Jan-2010 09:41 pm (UTC)
My mom tried throwing a book away once and I rescued it from the trash bin. I have no plans to read it, ever, I just can't see trashing books.
[info]lisaee 19th-Jan-2010 09:45 pm (UTC)
I have a hard time trashing books as well. It just makes me feel too guilty! Even my slightly moldy copy of A Passage to India is still sitting on my shelf.
[info]lisaee 19th-Jan-2010 09:44 pm (UTC)
I'd like to have known what happened to the few leftover books when my local Borders packed in. Somehow I doubt they went anywhere usefull.

Still, they managed to sell most of them, plus most of the furniture. You have got to keep in mind that a lot of the stuff left over is the kind of goods you wouldn't be able to pass on to many places. Most chairty shops don't need a few damaged copies of Twilight and a stack of out of date computer manuals.
[info]kyle_blake 19th-Jan-2010 10:42 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I went into my local one a few days before it shut and the books that were left were things even I wouldn't read, and I devour books by the sackful.

Loads of Twilight books and unauthorised celeb bios, and not the good ones either the ones that are 90% pictures.
[info]mschaos 19th-Jan-2010 09:51 pm (UTC)
while I understand there are contracts with various publishers (which I can't wrap my brain around but that is why I don't work in contract negotiations) if the books are not selling (after a valid effort) and the publishers do not want them back, what is harm in donating them. why does everyone get their panties in a twist

seriously
[info]mellow_dk 19th-Jan-2010 09:56 pm (UTC)
So I'll toss myself into the conversation as a former manager for Borders. We were contractually obligated to either send it back to the publisher or dumpster what they wouldn't take. It's cheaper to dumpster paperbacks then to ship them, so publishers only want the bar codes off the covers. ALL BOOKSTORES ARE SUPPOSED TO DO IT THIS WAY. Singling out Borders for something the publishing industry imposed, while I always found it repellent, is hardly fair.

(and the books that get dumpstered are the generally the ones you can't even sell for a dollar)

reposted for spelling fail.
[info]rex_dart 19th-Jan-2010 11:40 pm (UTC)
and the books that get dumpstered are the generally the ones you can't even sell for a dollar

lol ikr? If someone wanted the book, they would've paid the damn buck for it. I'm always so depressed when I get to a book sale at the end and everything's gone. :(
[info]bludstone 19th-Jan-2010 09:56 pm (UTC)
GOD DAMMIT WHY THE HELL IS THIS THE CHEAPEST WAY TO GET RID OF THEM.

BOOKS HAVE VALUE. PRICE THEM IN BULK BY THE POUND. SELL THEM TO PRISONS. FUCK.

Fuck you Borders. You make no sense.
[info]angry_chick 20th-Jan-2010 03:59 am (UTC)
Yeah this.
[info]verytwistedmind 19th-Jan-2010 10:02 pm (UTC)
Ummm dumpster diving anyone?
[info]empressfunk 19th-Jan-2010 10:38 pm (UTC)
Let's go.
[info]valkeakuulas 19th-Jan-2010 10:04 pm (UTC)
Local library here BURNED books because they don't apparently have enough space to put them to. :(
[info]gloraelin 19th-Jan-2010 11:19 pm (UTC)
ACK!

I mean, yes, it may not have been for the "traditional" reasoning, but god I cringe whenever books are burned. Just gives me the heebiejeebies.
[info]mollywobbles867 19th-Jan-2010 10:12 pm (UTC)
My friend worked at Waldenbooks when they closed down here and she bought so many books at ridiculously low prices just to save them from destruction and told all her friends to do the same. Unfortunately, I didn't have the money to do so.
[info]xlickety_splitx 19th-Jan-2010 10:52 pm (UTC)
Twilight is the only book that I've ever thrown away in my lifetime. I didn't even trash Eragon.
[info]lisaee 19th-Jan-2010 10:59 pm (UTC)
Twilight and New Moon prop up the old IKEA sofa I got from a skip.

Put to good useage, imho.
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