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Hamas prevents humanitarian aid delivery to Gaza

6:44 pm - 06/07/2010
The bulk of the humanitarian aid from the Turkish flotilla that has been confiscated by Israel has been released and is awaiting delivery to Gaza, however Hamas prevents the goods from being delivered according to Der Spiegel.


"The aid shipment that the Palestinian activists' flotilla was hoping to bring to Gaza before they were halted by Israeli commandos is now awaiting delivery. But Hamas will only let the badly needed goods into the territory under certain conditions. "


When and if Hamas eventually lets the goods in, it is unlikely that they will reach these in need. Most probably that the aid will be distributed among Hamas supporters.


"Hamas supporters get prefabricated housing, furnishings and paid work. We get nothing"


http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,698766,00.html
paulnolan 7th-Jun-2010 11:30 pm (UTC)
If you read as far back as I asked I can't see how you could say that. :/
naatz 7th-Jun-2010 11:31 pm (UTC)
Links?

|Meduza|
paulnolan 7th-Jun-2010 11:36 pm (UTC)
There's a hell of a lot to go through (this week's been pretty hectic here) - don't have any threads on hand.

If you go through here and check the posts with shedloads of comments you should find plenty though.
naatz 7th-Jun-2010 11:52 pm (UTC)
Okay, I saw enough {and I definitely did not want to see a dead body, so thank you for that}. Still not a blind supporter of Israel.

|Meduza|
paulnolan 7th-Jun-2010 11:54 pm (UTC)
Fair enough. He seems that way to me, but your mileage may vary I guess.

Sorry about the dead body.
naatz 8th-Jun-2010 12:18 am (UTC)
How so? Because he remembers that the Hamas {and other Palestinian organisations} are continually attacking Israel? That the Hamas does not believe Israel {as a state for Jews} should exist, and that they swear to fight until it's off the map {unbelievable, I know, until I went to their site and read their fucking documents, and it said that so clearly that I was in shock for a few hours. Because he thinks the Hamas would use any money it got for terrorism? That's what the Hamas has proven to do time and time again.

You have to understand: Israelis are scared out of their minds. We're terrified, and we feel there's nothing we can do. We really do think everyone is out to get us, when nobody bothers to give us a solution we could work with that wouldn't endanger us? Why ignore the possible consequences of actions for Israeli civilians, or Israeli reasons, when something like the flotilla happens? Why ignore the fact that whenever I go into almost establishment {mall/restuarant/university/central bus station} I have to go through a metal detector, because Hamas {and others, including Fatah} have been known to blow themselves up in busses/restaurants/universities/the street? Why are Israeli homes required to have a 'bomb safety zone'?

The conflict goes both ways. It's stupid to ignore that one people's suffering makes making the other people's suffering legitimate. And that works both ways. Lifting the blockade on Gaza without serious thought put into it might create an insane backlash in the area that would end up with Hamas {as a terrorist group still} controlling the Palestinian population through terror, interfering in {moderate} Jordanian and Egyptian politics, and completely undermining everyone's attempts in giving the Palestinians their own country. We want them to have a country. We'd be insane not to, since that would mean absorbing highly hostile population into Israel, which would eventually make Jews a minority in their own safe place. Because this is what Israel started as: A safe place for Jews, because obviously being a Jewish minority anywhere did not work well. Not in Europe, and despite better treatment in the Muslim countries, not always there either.

ETA: The body really is upsetting, btw. Can I suggest just linking to the image instead of posting the photo itself, next time? :\

|Meduza|

Edited at 2010-06-08 12:19 am (UTC)
paulnolan 8th-Jun-2010 12:29 am (UTC)
I understand that things are pretty fucked up over there, and I understand that it goes both ways - my being critical of the IDF's actions with the flotilla and last year's white phosphorus attacks doesn't change that. I do however think that certain people here (like merig00) are quickly jumping to the IDF's defence when their actions are indefensible (often by derailing into unrelated discussions about Hamas), and I'm certainly not alone in thinking this.

And again, sorry. I would normally have placed something like that behind a link, but felt it needed the gravity of being in plain view for that discussion.
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