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Pope condones condom use in exceptional cases - book

1:09 am - 11/21/2010
Pope Benedict XVI has said the use of condoms is acceptable in exceptional circumstances, according to a new book.

He said condoms could reduce the risk of HIV infection, such as for a male prostitute, in a series of interviews given to a German journalist.

But he said a more humane attitude to sexuality, and not condom use, was the proper way to combat HIV infection.

The comments were made in a new book, which the Vatican newspaper ran excerpts of in its Saturday edition.

The Church's hardline stance over contraception has led to the Vatican being heavily criticised for its position in the context of the AIDS crisis.

AIDS crisis

The book - Light of the World: The Pope, the Church and the Signs of the Times - is based on a series of interview the Pope gave the German Catholic journalist, Peter Seewald, earlier this year.

When asked whether the Catholic Church was not opposed in principle to the use of condoms, the Pope replied: "She of course does not regard it as a real or moral solution, but, in this or that case, there can be nonetheless, in the intention of reducing the risk of infection, a first step in a movement toward a different way, a more human way, of living sexuality."

The Pope gives the example of the use of condoms by male prostitutes as "a first step towards moralisation", even though condoms are "not really the way to deal with the evil of HIV infection".

He says that the "sheer fixation on the condom implies a banalisation of sexuality" where sexuality is no longer an expression of love, "but only a sort of drug that people administer to themselves".

Catholic commentator Austen Ivereigh said that although this was the first time the Pope had voiced such an opinion, it was in line with what Catholic moral theologians have been saying for many years.

"The Church's teaching on contraception predates the discovery of AIDS," Mr Ivereigh told the BBC news website.

"The prevalence of HIV raised the question of whether condoms could be used to prevent the transmission of the virus.

"If the intention is to prevent transmission of the virus, rather than prevent contraception, moral theologians would say that was of a different moral order."

UNAIDS, the United Nations programme on HIV/AIDS, welcomed the Pope's comments.

"This is a significant and positive step forward taken by the Vatican," said UNAIDS Executive Director Michel Sidibe.

"This move recognizes that responsible sexual behaviour and the use of condoms have important roles in HIV prevention."

On a visit to Cameroon last year, the Pope said the use of condoms could endanger public health and increase the problem of HIV/AIDS, rather than help to contain the virus. This drew criticism from several EU states.

Campaigners say condoms are one of the few methods proven to stop the spread of HIV.

Light of the World is to be published in English by the Catholic Truth Society on Tuesday.

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erunamiryene 21st-Nov-2010 07:16 am (UTC)
I'm guessing these "extraordinary circumstances" don't include "we can't afford/can't support/shouldn't have any more kids", right? /eyeroll

But hey, silly me ... congratulations, dude, on getting a teeny tiny step closer to joining us in THIS century. /high five
goblinthebamf 21st-Nov-2010 06:16 pm (UTC)
more like one teeny tiny step closer to joining LAST century.

the Vatican better shape up and make some progressive reforms if it wants to be anything but a rapidly increasingly anachronistic joke in the 21st.
roseofjuly 21st-Nov-2010 07:19 am (UTC)
This is a nitpick but I hate when people write Aids or AID's or AIDs. It's AIDS. All capitals, since all the letters stand for something.

But um, yeah, welcome to the real world, Pope?
lafinjack 21st-Nov-2010 07:24 am (UTC)
I'll fix it, but that's the BBC's deal.
randomneses 21st-Nov-2010 07:23 am (UTC)
Oh ho ho
squeeful 21st-Nov-2010 07:25 am (UTC)
...

WHAT IS THIS, POD POPE?
nope_de_plume 21st-Nov-2010 07:31 am (UTC)
Because clearly male prostitutes are only bought by men, and we all know gay sex is the only cause of aids.
theburningdoll 21st-Nov-2010 07:34 am (UTC)
It's almost 3 in the morning and nothing makes sense anymore.

persiascarecrow 21st-Nov-2010 07:48 am (UTC)
PROGRESS!!!!!!!

booksforlunch 21st-Nov-2010 09:18 am (UTC)
My, how generous of him.
haruhiko 21st-Nov-2010 09:42 am (UTC)
lol
haruhiko 21st-Nov-2010 09:43 am (UTC)
little Palpatine is getting all ~progressive~
jesskat 21st-Nov-2010 10:04 am (UTC)
"But he said a more humane attitude to sexuality, and not condom use, was the proper way to combat HIV infection."

Pray tell, what is a more "humane" attitude to sexuality?
mswyrr 21st-Nov-2010 11:14 am (UTC)
For the healing light of married!missionary!hetsex to shine upon us all and pregnancies to alight upon us as they wilt?
fatpie42 21st-Nov-2010 10:43 am (UTC)
In the Guardian article it says that the Pope had asked for research to be done back in 2006 on the effectiveness of condoms against the spread of AIDS. I guess that means he's been ignoring them for four years, doesn't it?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/21/pope-benedict-condoms-hiv-infection
silmaril 22nd-Nov-2010 05:42 pm (UTC)
Oh, it was probably a few rounds of "no no no, go do the research that will give the answers I asked for."
apocalypsos 21st-Nov-2010 11:09 am (UTC)
I'd be a lot more apt to cheer if:

a.) He weren't sort of saying that prostitutes are the only ones who spread AIDS.
b.) He wasn't only in this for the AIDS, rather than for the pregnancy prevention as well.
c.) He weren't preaching this from the obviously sexually educated post of a celibate man in charge of an organization hit by a vast multitude of child molestation charges over the decades.
d.) His entire philosophy on sex couldn't STILL be completely boiled down to the lyrics of Beyonce's "Single Ladies"

Edited at 2010-11-21 11:10 am (UTC)
maynardsong 22nd-Nov-2010 05:04 am (UTC)
"Single Ladies" is hardly an anti-sex screed. My reading of the song is, "You totally wasted my time by continuing to put off asking me to marry you, so you know what? I'm gonna go fuck other dudes if it's all the same to you. Who's with me, single ladies whose BFs can't commit?"
acmeeoy 21st-Nov-2010 12:14 pm (UTC)
When I read the title, the image of a stereotypical witch came to mind, cackling and wriggling her fingers, saying "Yes, take a step in the direction of Pro Choice, sweet pope. One day, your religious institution will be under the control of Liberal feminists! The Catholic Church is ours!" while lightning crackled in the background.

My imagination's strange.
lafinjack 21st-Nov-2010 05:14 pm (UTC)
"My imagination's strangeawesome."
arisma 21st-Nov-2010 02:26 pm (UTC)
Way to acknowledge the benefits of condoms while keeping them verboten for the majority of people who could benefit from them.
filbypott 21st-Nov-2010 03:07 pm (UTC)
Aw, how nice, he finally joined the rest of us in the 1900s.

It's like the Church is exactly 100 years behind on everything.
agentsculder 21st-Nov-2010 04:59 pm (UTC)
Being 100 years behind is progress. It used to be more like 400 years behind.

I just hope that in my lifetime we get a pope that is willing to acknowledge the reality that in order for the Catholic Church to survive, it's going to have give women and married men a role in the priesthood.
luvlorn 21st-Nov-2010 03:53 pm (UTC)
Can we all just stop pretending a condom is anything more than a thin sheath of latex (or alternative material) that does nothing more than stop body fluids from transferring from one person to another. It's not a magical thing that instantly makes people or kids tempted to have sex or a sin sent down by God (if it is, I guess the tires on my car are an even bigger sin). Make some water balloons and stop being threatened, people.
entropius 21st-Nov-2010 04:55 pm (UTC)
The Pope still has the blood of millions on his hands and people are suffering around the world every day because of his ridiculous misguided anachronistic bullshit.

This is too little, too late.
ladypolitik 21st-Nov-2010 06:02 pm (UTC)


That Christ fellow called -- he says to stop with the perpetuation of myths concerning some of his closest friends (and to not even bother "advocating" for the poor, meek, dying, and--yes, to leave tax collectors out of it, too--while you're at it).
bmh4d0k3n 21st-Nov-2010 08:36 pm (UTC)
Well, la-de-frickin'-da.
whosmurry 21st-Nov-2010 08:54 pm (UTC)
Only a couple decades too late. Way to go, Pope.
joy_mora 21st-Nov-2010 09:08 pm (UTC)
zombieroadtrip 21st-Nov-2010 11:55 pm (UTC)
Is 'gay prostitutes can use condoms since obv. queers spread AIDS' really progress...?
maynardsong 22nd-Nov-2010 05:08 am (UTC)
I'm not giving the Pope a fucking cookie for this. Even goodly het-married-missionary couples don't have a basis for using condoms in the Pope's mind at the moment. No, not even. That's a foreign concept to the Pope. Married folks not being out to procreate?
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