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Swiss right-wingers still don't like foreigners, let people vote

7:07 pm - 11/28/2010
Swiss voters 'back expulsion of foreign criminals'



Swiss voters have accepted a referendum proposal for the automatic expulsion of non-Swiss citizens for certain crimes, an exit poll suggests.

Some 53% agreed that those convicted of crimes ranging from murder to benefit fraud should be deported, the poll for state broadcaster SF1 said.

The Swiss People's Party, which drew up the measure, said immigrants "should respect the rules of this country".

But opponents said it was another example of increasing xenophobia.

The right-wing Swiss People's Party (SVP), was behind last year's referendum that imposed a ban on the building of Islamic minarets. That decision was condemned by human rights groups and foreign governments.

The SVP says immigrants to Switzerland are disproportionately responsible for crime. It points to the fact that more than 60% of prison inmates do not have Swiss nationality.

But opponents say the measures go too far. The children of immigrants do not automatically get Swiss citizenship, so the rule would mean sending some people who were born and brought up in Switzerland to countries they know nothing of.

Convicts would serve their sentence in Switzerland first and then be deported without appeal.

The Swiss government believes mandatory deportation could violate Switzerland's obligations under international law not to send people to countries that practise torture or execution.

It advised voters to reject the proposal, and it put forward an alternative system which would allow deportation for certain crimes, but which would assess cases individually. The exit poll suggested that had been defeated.

'Statement against foreigners'

The SVP has been accused of using racist posters that depict certain ethnic groups as criminal.

The Swiss political analyst Georg Lutz says the SVP's wider strategy is to capitalise on Swiss worries that the foreign population is too big.

"This vote is not about some complex legal issues about how to deal with certain types of criminal foreigners," he says.

"What most people will want to do in this vote is make a statement against foreigners, and that is the central motivation."

A second referendum, which asked the Swiss to approve a minimum tax rate of 22% for people earning more than 250,000 francs (£160,000; 190,000 euros), was rejected, the exit poll suggested.

The Socialist Party said it would be more just, but the government and centre-right parties said it would harm the economy by making the country less appealing to foreign businessmen.

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Lovely. I can't wait to see what they'll think of for the next referendum! [/sarcasm]
piratesswoop 28th-Nov-2010 06:22 pm (UTC)


this swiss loves all foreigners, especially spainards ;)

a referendum proposal for the automatic expulsion of non-Swiss citizens for certain crimes

Is Roman Polanski included in this?
leelakin 28th-Nov-2010 06:24 pm (UTC)
Is Roman Polanski included in this?
Don't be ridiculous, he's rich and white! What's not to love?
juliet316 28th-Nov-2010 07:07 pm (UTC)
IF HE'S NOT, HE SHOULD BE!
romp 29th-Nov-2010 03:40 am (UTC)
+1
danyjoncew 28th-Nov-2010 06:25 pm (UTC)
O.O wut?

escherichiacola 28th-Nov-2010 06:36 pm (UTC)
Well if you're gonna scapegoat I guess doing it against those who can't vote is as good a strategy as ever.
yami_no_hoshi 28th-Nov-2010 06:38 pm (UTC)
The SVP's posters just keep getting more charming by the day, huh? I haven't seen that one before. So disgusting.
twirlintwisting 28th-Nov-2010 06:50 pm (UTC)
I especially liked one where they called all foreigners rapists. It was charming, especially since they are always so concerned with women's issues. /sarc
coyotesuspect 28th-Nov-2010 06:40 pm (UTC)
>:|

leelakin 28th-Nov-2010 07:12 pm (UTC)
it's not even about being "bad", just make a mistake while filling out a form... voilà, benefits fraud!
ladypolitik 28th-Nov-2010 07:27 pm (UTC)
Wow @ that poster. Wow.
crossfire 29th-Nov-2010 05:25 pm (UTC)
IFKR? Talk about an awesome example of propaganda.
poetic_pixie_13 This law plus that poster 28th-Nov-2010 07:37 pm (UTC)
Oh. Well then.
filbypott 28th-Nov-2010 07:54 pm (UTC)
It points to the fact that more than 60% of prison inmates do not have Swiss nationality.

That tells me more about the Swiss justice system than its immigrant population.
sobota 28th-Nov-2010 07:57 pm (UTC)
this.
joy_mora 28th-Nov-2010 08:22 pm (UTC)
The saddest part is that I'm not surprised at all. They can and will do worse I'm sure.
odetomutilation 28th-Nov-2010 10:36 pm (UTC)
I agree that it's motivated by racism, but I can't really blame them for not wanting convicted criminals in their country. Who would?
zoram 28th-Nov-2010 11:20 pm (UTC)
It's fucked up since it puts people born there in a better position, and people who are immigrants are punished much, much more harshly just for being immigrants.
romp 29th-Nov-2010 03:47 am (UTC)
Canada sometimes deports people convicted of a crime who aren't citizens and sometimes they've been here almost all their lives. But once they're citizens, they stay in Canada. That makes sense to me as opposed to trying to rid yourself of people who are citizens of your country.
caketime 29th-Nov-2010 03:09 pm (UTC)
Not all criminals will get expulsed. Some will, some won't not based on how harsh their crimes were. I don't understand is how conservative ~100% Swiss and proud of it~ citizens can vote against something that is so against the laws of our country. It goes against the proportionality law (and like a couple other vastly more important ones, but the proportionality law is the one that is the most long-standing and a lot of these conservative people cling to this law).
They're abusing direct democracy as yet another platform to ~set an example, all while touting the wonders of direct democracy?
tmlforsyth 29th-Nov-2010 02:02 am (UTC)
What are the crimes, what are the conditions, and how evenly is it enforced. I was under the impression, most countries deport non-citizens who commit heinous crimes, including the US, Canada, and France, or maybe I am wrong. Granted, Switzerland has much stricter citizenship laws than much of the EU, the US, and Canada, which is worth considering.

A second referendum, which asked the Swiss to approve a minimum tax rate of 22% for people earning more than 250,000 francs (£160,000; 190,000 euros), was rejected, the exit poll suggested.

So people making over 250,000 franks only pay 22% in income tax, or is this an additional 22% to what they already pay? Granted, I don't know all the taxes the Swiss pay, or if the country is running a deficit, or what the money will go to for that matter. It all depends on the alternatives to Switzerland for a foreign business. If you can get a few more golden eggs, that is good, but don't kill the goose.
romp 29th-Nov-2010 03:52 am (UTC)
most countries deport non-citizens who commit heinous crimes
Yes but I believe those countries also grant citizenship to people born in the country. So these people would have been born and raised in Switzerland.
hotcoffeems 29th-Nov-2010 02:18 am (UTC)
The SVP says immigrants to Switzerland are disproportionately responsible for crime. It points to the fact that more than 60% of prison inmates do not have Swiss nationality.

This sounds a bit like those in the US who claim that the disproportionate numbers of blacks behind bars means that blacks are more likely to be criminals.

When at least here it points to a couple of things: blacks are more likely to be caught in a cycle of poverty; blacks are more likely to be prosecuted and sent to prison for certain crimes. Both of which are about the system itself being messed up and racist, not that blacks are more likely to commit crimes.

So...anyone thinking this might be a similar situation with similar root causes? No? Considering for whom the fight is fixed, how could this be that much different?
dreadfulpenny00 29th-Nov-2010 02:49 pm (UTC)
Swiss voters have accepted a referendum proposal for the automatic expulsion of non-Swiss citizens for certain crimes...

Do what the British did...send them to Australia!!!

j/k
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