• "Obama isn't even really black -- Bill Clinton is more black than Obama," said Mike Wallace, 44, of Dearborn, Mich. Wallace is a United Auto Workers pipe fitter who plans to vote for McCain, although he believes the vast majority of his co-workers at the local Chrysler plant will vote for Obama, as recommended by a UAW handout.
• "I'm not a fan of the blacks," explained Dennis Rodriguez, 48, a restaurant manager from Manistique, Mich., "but I just think Obama is the right man for the job."
• Bob Morin, 53, a custodian and swing voter from Cubero, N.M. (a state Bush won by just 5,000 votes in 2004), told me, "I've got a few friends who say, 'There's no way I'm voting for a black guy,' but I think most people have gotten over it."
• "He's just not someone I can personally relate to," explained Cathy Massingale, 33, of Cullowhee, N.C., a Democrat who first supported John Edwards this election, and then Hillary Clinton. "Obama just doesn't feel like someone who knows me." Massingale's husband is in the military, and she wants to see a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. But she said she remains undecided about Obama or McCain.
• "Obama's like Jesse Jackson -- what does he know except a bunch of cities with lots of blacks?" asked 60-year-old construction worker Louie, in White Branch, Mich., a lifelong Democrat who said he probably won't vote for either candidate this year.
• Gary Ball, a former coal miner and editor of the firebrand Mountain Citizen newspaper that is published in Inez, points to an authenticity gap for Obama. "People around here see Obama as being privileged," he said. Never mind McCain -- with his seven houses -- or recent blue blood candidates George W. Bush, John Kerry and Al Gore. "We know Obama's plenty book-smart ... but I liked Harry Truman, the last president to have a simple high school education."
• In the quaint and tidy town of Yellville, Ark., Cassie Gilley, 48, a soft-spoken school administrator, explained her view of white, rural America's evolving relationship to race. "There's a difference between racist and prejudiced," she said over sandwiches at Subway, after a service at Yellville's First Baptist Church. "A lot of people around here just haven't spent much time with black people. When they get to know a black person, it's OK. But they will bring their prejudice in at first."
• Just outside of Cranks, Ky., in Harlan County, Mack Middleton is a retired coal miner and a die-hard union man -- a United Mine Workers bumper sticker adorns his Dodge van -- but he is also a swing voter who voted both for Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. This year, Middleton, 62, and his wife, Janice, 57, aren't sure if they are going to vote at all. "Obama, he's not our kind of people," said Middleton in a gruff, bitten-off speaking style, taking a break from canning green beans at the couple's double-wide mobile home. "He don't believe in the hereafter, and the Lord, the way I look at it ... he's Muslim."
• In Logan, W.Va., abandoned brick storefronts haunt downtown while the Fountain Plaza mall, anchored by a Wal-Mart Supercenter, gleams on the hill above town. Logan County was one of a few counties that voted for John Kerry in 2004 (George W. Bush won West Virginia overall), and, given a struggling economy, would seem primed to swing Democratic again. But Scott, 26, a former trucker currently unemployed, isn't going to vote for Obama. "I know it sounds stupid," he says taking a long drag from his Maverick cigarette, "but Barack Hussein Obama? And if he gets in, somebody'll take him out real quick," he said, referring to potential assassination, which was a surprisingly common theme along rural back roads.
• Beyond the necessity of connecting with rural America, the Obama campaign is hoping to gain ground by winning over suburban independents in battleground states. In Columbus, Ohio, I encountered several white, upper-middle-class swing voters who said they would support Obama. But Terry Daniels, 53, a black man who runs a clothing store in downtown Columbus catering to the city's suburbanites, was skeptical that would happen. "Everyone likes to think they're progressive," Daniels said, "but when it comes down to it, they're not going to vote that way."
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• "I'm not a fan of the blacks," explained Dennis Rodriguez, 48, a restaurant manager from Manistique, Mich., "but I just think Obama is the right man for the job."
• Bob Morin, 53, a custodian and swing voter from Cubero, N.M. (a state Bush won by just 5,000 votes in 2004), told me, "I've got a few friends who say, 'There's no way I'm voting for a black guy,' but I think most people have gotten over it."
• "He's just not someone I can personally relate to," explained Cathy Massingale, 33, of Cullowhee, N.C., a Democrat who first supported John Edwards this election, and then Hillary Clinton. "Obama just doesn't feel like someone who knows me." Massingale's husband is in the military, and she wants to see a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. But she said she remains undecided about Obama or McCain.
• "Obama's like Jesse Jackson -- what does he know except a bunch of cities with lots of blacks?" asked 60-year-old construction worker Louie, in White Branch, Mich., a lifelong Democrat who said he probably won't vote for either candidate this year.
• Gary Ball, a former coal miner and editor of the firebrand Mountain Citizen newspaper that is published in Inez, points to an authenticity gap for Obama. "People around here see Obama as being privileged," he said. Never mind McCain -- with his seven houses -- or recent blue blood candidates George W. Bush, John Kerry and Al Gore. "We know Obama's plenty book-smart ... but I liked Harry Truman, the last president to have a simple high school education."
• In the quaint and tidy town of Yellville, Ark., Cassie Gilley, 48, a soft-spoken school administrator, explained her view of white, rural America's evolving relationship to race. "There's a difference between racist and prejudiced," she said over sandwiches at Subway, after a service at Yellville's First Baptist Church. "A lot of people around here just haven't spent much time with black people. When they get to know a black person, it's OK. But they will bring their prejudice in at first."
• Just outside of Cranks, Ky., in Harlan County, Mack Middleton is a retired coal miner and a die-hard union man -- a United Mine Workers bumper sticker adorns his Dodge van -- but he is also a swing voter who voted both for Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. This year, Middleton, 62, and his wife, Janice, 57, aren't sure if they are going to vote at all. "Obama, he's not our kind of people," said Middleton in a gruff, bitten-off speaking style, taking a break from canning green beans at the couple's double-wide mobile home. "He don't believe in the hereafter, and the Lord, the way I look at it ... he's Muslim."
• In Logan, W.Va., abandoned brick storefronts haunt downtown while the Fountain Plaza mall, anchored by a Wal-Mart Supercenter, gleams on the hill above town. Logan County was one of a few counties that voted for John Kerry in 2004 (George W. Bush won West Virginia overall), and, given a struggling economy, would seem primed to swing Democratic again. But Scott, 26, a former trucker currently unemployed, isn't going to vote for Obama. "I know it sounds stupid," he says taking a long drag from his Maverick cigarette, "but Barack Hussein Obama? And if he gets in, somebody'll take him out real quick," he said, referring to potential assassination, which was a surprisingly common theme along rural back roads.
• Beyond the necessity of connecting with rural America, the Obama campaign is hoping to gain ground by winning over suburban independents in battleground states. In Columbus, Ohio, I encountered several white, upper-middle-class swing voters who said they would support Obama. But Terry Daniels, 53, a black man who runs a clothing store in downtown Columbus catering to the city's suburbanites, was skeptical that would happen. "Everyone likes to think they're progressive," Daniels said, "but when it comes down to it, they're not going to vote that way."
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What the everloving fuck does that mean?
Fuck these voters then. We don't need your vote.
Maybe I really am a liberal elitist, like my icon says, because I really don't give a shit what some dumbass in a double wide who has made no attempt to educate himself on the election this year thinks. EFF YOU.
Most of this is thinly veiled racism. A lot not so veiled at all.
Edited at 2008-09-12 07:39 am (UTC)
and i live here. we're a fucking racist bigoted hellhole made of MAYBE 10% college grads. we have one "cool" road through the whole state and even the moronic hipsters that jerk off there think they're awesome for telling racist jokes.
I think I've said the same thing sardonically before. I never thought anyone would ever actually say it and mean it.
I can't believe there are still people who say shit like that. I grew up in the northeast, and I have never come across someone who (openly) thinks like that. Wow.
i had no idea what true racism was. when the fuck did these people take over the country?
I'm mad now.
How about Constitutional Law, how to balance a budget, how to cut laws and pen speeches that draw crowds nobody has since the Beatles?
sit the fuck down
Sometimes I feel like we are in dire need of a Malcolm X. I don't know if he ever truly changed minds, but at least he got people to STFU.
I had the "Obama's not really black" conversation with my dad, although he meant it differently than this guy.
He was like "Obama isn't even completely black, why is he ~abandoning~ his white side?" And I tried to explain it, like, besides the fact that he does talk about the white part of his family, he may be half white but people don't see that-- for example when he talked about trying to hail a cab. People don't say "Hey, what is your exact racial make-up? Please break it down into specific percentages so I may determine if you are, in fact, black enough for me to hate" before they discriminate against you. He was kinda like "yeah, okay" but I don't think he really got it :(
"Obama's like Jesse Jackson -- what does he know except a bunch of cities with lots of blacks?"
whaaaaat.
Edited at 2008-09-12 07:48 am (UTC)
What fucking vile, wastes of flesh.
Only thing is we all get screwed :(
Please?
And I'm only concentrating on that because "I'm not a fan of the blacks" made me too fucking angry
These people need to die for the good of evolution.
My friend and her family are hardcore Dems. when I had asked her who she was voting for, she could not answer. She was a die hard Hillary supporter. Admittedly because Hillary is a woman and she hates McCain. When I asked her why she did not like Obama. She could not give me an answer. I told her about how similar their stances were on many issues. but she still could not give me a reason. and then, I knew why, because Barack is black. And since then I can't really look at her the same and don;t talk to her as much.
I told her GTFO with that racist BS and if you're going to be a moron and assume he's racist because you had a bad experience with a couple of people who just happen to be black, when we actually have the possibility of having a Latino (we're both hispanic) for president who is as close as Obama is, don't be mad when some people say, "Ew, a Latino? Aren't they only good for cleaning houses? They probably want to open the borders and let all the Mexicans out!" I know comments like that will happen and I don't think it's fair to talk down on a black person, yet expect the world to embrace a Latino candidate. /rant
And I'm sorry for the long response! It's just that this subject really pisses me off! It's 2008 people! WAKE UP!!
This stuff is so awful and so infuriating that all it makes me do is laugh and laugh and laaaaaaaaaaaugh and idk murder.
no, it's not.
i've had to put up with this stuff from family of all people. talking about how michelle obama must have been born under a banana tree and stupid bs like that. it makes me murderous.