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'She's one of us': Palin wins over Obama women

9:04 pm - 09/12/2008


Jessica Goral had pretty much made up her mind two weeks ago: she was going to vote for Barack Obama. Then John McCain picked Sarah Palin as his running-mate.

“She empowers a lot of women,” said Mrs Goral, a mother of two in Macomb County – a national bellwether in the battleground state of Michigan and an area rich in white, working-class swing voters who will play an important role in deciding the election in November.

“I like that she’s a brand new mother, and that she has the courage to stand behind her pregnant daughter. She relates to working women. For all of us who have children at home but have to go to work every day – she has given us a sense that we can still do it and can be an excellent mum,” she said. “Sarah Palin is a role model. She’s made me more likely to vote Republican.”

If Mr Obama should be in any doubt how gravely the vice-presidential nomination of the Governor of Alaska has imperilled his White House ambitions, then a day spent in Macomb County will make this clear: white women who voted for John Kerry in 2004 are suddenly deserting the Democratic Party.

This is Mount Clemens, in the heart of Macomb County, where the pollster Stan Greenberg first identified the phenomenon of the Reagan Democrats – the working-class, socially conservative, traditionally Democratic whites who deserted the party for Ronald Reagan in 1980. It is fair to say that this critical swing group now has a new name: Palin Democrats.

The Times spoke to dozens of women here – perhaps the key demographic in this election – in an area that is 88 per cent white, has one of the highest unemployment and home repossession rates in the country, and will play a big role in determining who wins Michigan in November. It is a crucial swing state that no Republican has won since 1988 but where Mr Obama is particularly vulnerable. Nearly all said that they were still undecided. Yet the disturbing fact for Mr Obama was how many said that they had been leaning towards him – until Mrs Palin entered the race. It lends new credence to a poll last week that showed white women fleeing from Mr Obama to Mr McCain.

Katherine Herman, 45, is a lifelong Democrat who has never voted for a Republican. Until now. “I have a friend who’s a Democrat, and like me, it’s Sarah Palin that’s caused her to lean in favour of McCain. Palin is tenacious. She’s sure of herself and would make good decisions for all Americans,” she said.

Stephanie Parker, 23, a single mother puffing on a Marlboro menthol cigarette in Main Street, Mount Clemens, voted for Mr Kerry and had been drawn to Mr Obama. “Palin’s made a big difference. I think she’ll do us great. What she stands for is fantastic,” she said. What does she stand for? “I couldn’t tell really. But I love her.”

Jennifer Zvara, 22, another single mother who voted for John Kerry, said: “I’m undecided but leaning more towards McCain because of Palin. It’s a women thing. She’s one of us. This race is about the running-mates – it’s not about Obama any more.”

Aides to Mr Obama have argued that the conservatism of Mrs Palin – her opposition to abortion even in cases of rape and incest – will alienate women. Yet the women who spoke toThe Timessaid that while they were concerned about those views they were willing to overlook them.

In recent presidential races pollsters have striven to name the preeminent voter swing group that they believe will decide the election. White women were always considered pivotal in a close election.

In 1996 it was “soccer moms” whom Bill Clinton targeted. In 2004 it was “security moms” who helped President Bush to win reelection. This year the group watched most closely by pollsters has been named the “Wal-Mart moms” – the white every-woman, juggling work and children, who wants a Democrat in the White House but is not yet sold on Mr Obama. In Mrs Palin they have found a soulmate.

Tammy Pore, 31, leaving Wal-Mart with one of her two children, said that she had decided to vote for Mr Obama. She said that she was leaning towards Mr McCain. “I think Sarah Palin is a great choice. There are some of us who have certain worries about Obama’s faith. I wouldn’t say he’s not a Christian – but maybe he just has a different belief.” Another young mother, who did not want to be named, simply said: “I’m a Republican. But I would have voted for Obama if he’d picked Hillary. We really want a woman in the White House.”

Last month, before Mrs Palin was picked by Mr McCain, Mr Greenberg returned to Macomb County. He conducted six focus groups. “Obama has yet to close the deal with white, working-class voters who normally vote Democrat,” Mr Greenberg said. Macomb’s Reagan Democrats were “refusing to dismiss their worst fears – that he does not love America or even might harbour a secret agenda”. Mrs Palin is giving them all the more reason to reject Mr Obama.
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God help us all.



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[info]annie_oakley 13th-Sep-2008 01:27 am (UTC)
“Palin’s made a big difference. I think she’ll do us great. What she stands for is fantastic,” she said. What does she stand for? “I couldn’t tell really. But I love her.”

lolololol.


Sometimes I hate everyone.
[info]hormoaning 13th-Sep-2008 01:31 am (UTC)
that part made me lol



and then cry.
[info]melisande22 13th-Sep-2008 01:27 am (UTC)
FUCKING HELL.

PS, where is that gif from?
[info]perfectisafault 13th-Sep-2008 01:28 am (UTC)
Starflower
[info]therocket_queen 13th-Sep-2008 01:28 am (UTC)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

They're going to vote against their own interests, just so a woman can be in the WH. And THEN, god forbid the bitch wins, she's gonna do such a shitty job that everyone's gonna go, "Women just can't handle it, I guess!"

FUCKS SAKES!
[info]letitshine 13th-Sep-2008 03:55 am (UTC)
you gotta make the country learn the lesson sometime: "Dont judge a book by its cover" and you know... im not sure I care anymore. they deserve what they vote for.
[info]letloverule42 13th-Sep-2008 01:29 am (UTC)
This article makes me want to cry. Or kill myself, I'm not sure which. Holy shit.
[info]unspooling 13th-Sep-2008 08:31 pm (UTC)
EXACTLY the comment I was about to make, word for word.

FUCK THIS FUCKERY.
[info]53chevy 13th-Sep-2008 01:29 am (UTC)
What does she stand for? “I couldn’t tell really. But I love her.”

We're screwed.
[info]mysticlady3 13th-Sep-2008 01:31 am (UTC)
MAJORLY.
[info]chad_etc 13th-Sep-2008 01:30 am (UTC)
They're just bein' Mavericks.
[info]ladypolitik 13th-Sep-2008 01:30 am (UTC)
LMFAO
[info]zestylime 13th-Sep-2008 01:30 am (UTC)
*hangs head* I'm from near Macomb County (Oakland, actually), and sad to say I'm not surprised. Although, it does disappoint me. COME ON, MICHIGAN! I thought you knew better than that! we are losing jobs, and being hit so hard by the housing crisis right now you would think people would take their heads out of their asses and realize, oh, hey, things have gone kind of down the shitter since Bush took office.

but they can't think in general terms like that, unfortunately.

It makes me SO MAD.
[info]iamithink 13th-Sep-2008 02:40 am (UTC)
I'm in Michigan, too. Macomb county, in fact. I'm canvassing door-to-door on Sunday for the first time in an effort to try and spread some truth over the towering mountain of bullshit here.

I'm a little (actually, more than a little) worried about what I'll be faced with in terms of hostility or whatever, but I have to take the risk because I am literally TERRIFIED at the thought of this country under the leadership of McCain/Palin.



[info]butterflyrei 13th-Sep-2008 01:31 am (UTC)
oh, for goodness sake!
[info]ladypolitik 13th-Sep-2008 01:31 am (UTC)
Jennifer Zvara, 22, another single mother who voted for John Kerry, said: “I’m undecided but leaning more towards McCain because of Palin. It’s a women thing. She’s one of us. This race is about the running-mates – it’s not about Obama any more.”







Wat.
[info]zestylime 13th-Sep-2008 01:34 am (UTC)
UGH UGH UGH UGH WTF IT IS NOT A WOMAN THING OH MY GOODNESS. THIS IS NOT THE SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELING VAGINA. YOU ARE GIVING FEMINISM A BAD NAME OH MY GOODNESS I'M GOING TO HAVE AN ANEURISM LIKE RIGHT NOW; LAKJWLEKJR;AKWE

CANDLEJACK TAKE ME AWA
[info]annie_oakley 13th-Sep-2008 01:32 am (UTC)
“Palin’s made a big difference. I think she’ll do us great. What she stands for is fantastic,” she said. What does she stand for? “I couldn’t tell really. But I love her.”

You know what? I would have loved to have Hillary on the ticket, too. But at least Obama respected this country and himself enough to not just pick someone who would not necessarily be his first choice because it would help him win the election.
[info]annie_oakley 13th-Sep-2008 01:34 am (UTC)
What the hell, did my c/p not work?? Damn.

Anyway:
Another young mother, who did not want to be named, simply said: “I’m a Republican. But I would have voted for Obama if he’d picked Hillary. We really want a woman in the White House.”
[info]i_said_boourns 13th-Sep-2008 01:32 am (UTC)
Oh fuck this shit
[info]jessashoutbaby 13th-Sep-2008 11:24 am (UTC)
Icon LOVE!
[info]laurie_springs 13th-Sep-2008 01:33 am (UTC)
These bitches need a Hole album STAT
[info]randomneses WORD.13th-Sep-2008 02:06 am (UTC)
[info]bellichka 13th-Sep-2008 01:33 am (UTC)
..... who wants to secede with me.

I'm fucking serious, I'm not even dicking around.

I'm looking at you, Manhattan.
[info]therocket_queen 13th-Sep-2008 01:39 am (UTC)
I'm here, on Manhattan... let's do it!
[info]oddrid 13th-Sep-2008 01:33 am (UTC)
Good for you, article, you found one of the five women who went to the dark side. Stop painting us all like idiots.
[info]pietriarchy 13th-Sep-2008 05:26 pm (UTC)
agreed.
[info]maxvinyl 13th-Sep-2008 01:35 am (UTC)
this makes me feel so overwhelmed. idk how else to describe it. but just think of all the moms in this country who don't care about politics and are suddenly like OH A WOMAN I GUESS I'LL VOTE FOR THEM THEN without even knowing anything about palin or mccain. THIS SUCKS SO FUCKING MUCH

I HATE YOU SARAH PALIN
[info]monotonebanana 13th-Sep-2008 01:39 am (UTC)
mte
[info]hirolin 13th-Sep-2008 01:35 am (UTC)
"Stephanie Parker, 23, a single mother puffing on a Marlboro menthol cigarette in Main Street, Mount Clemens, voted for Mr Kerry and had been drawn to Mr Obama. “Palin’s made a big difference. I think she’ll do us great. What she stands for is fantastic,” she said. What does she stand for? “I couldn’t tell really. But I love her.”"

...You like what she stands for, but you don't really know what she stands for? THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.



"Jennifer Zvara, 22, another single mother who voted for John Kerry, said: “I’m undecided but leaning more towards McCain because of Palin. It’s a women thing. She’s one of us. This race is about the running-mates – it’s not about Obama any more.”"

...So the presidential race isn't about the actual candidates for president? Alrighty then.





[info]perfectisafault 13th-Sep-2008 01:38 am (UTC)
I suppose, according to Stephanie Parker, theocracy is "fantastic"
[info]melisande22 13th-Sep-2008 01:35 am (UTC)
Okay, so we should ignore the polling from Michigan which say that Obama is head (albeit narrowly), and focus on anecdotal evidence from a few women who are stupid enough to vote for McCain because his running mate has a vagina? That reminds me of a lady from New Hampshire who was on MSNBC today. She insisted that a New Hampshire poll (which had Obama up by 6, and was taken YESTERDAY) was "wrong" because "I talk to women on the street, and they love Sarah!!!"
[info]flowerings 13th-Sep-2008 01:51 am (UTC)
Seriously, this article has been written about twenty different times since Palin was first announced. Come on, ONTD Political. We need to get a grip. A handful of women to do not represent the rest. Plus, these people interviewed probably won't have voted for Obama anyway. Palin was just an easy way out.
[info]jodifer 13th-Sep-2008 01:36 am (UTC)
"Palin’s made a big difference. I think she’ll do us great. What she stands for is fantastic,” she said. What does she stand for? “I couldn’t tell really. But I love her.”

That. That is what makes women look like idiots.
[info]slushlily Re: One of us! One of us! One of us!13th-Sep-2008 02:02 am (UTC)
My experiences (in NYS, though, and with not-so-low-info voters, sooo....) are like yours-- people I know who wanted Hillary have switched to Obama and people who HAD been leaning to McCain are suddenly like 'no fucking way' with the addition of Palin to the ticket. I don't know ANYONE in the 'real' world who actually thinks this was a good idea.
[info]somechickxoxo 13th-Sep-2008 01:37 am (UTC)
Oh.. My.. God.. Why?
I just don't get this. At all. I've always seemed to be a cynic by nature. However, I've been doing pretty good with keeping a positive attitude towards this election and this just is making it harder for me. :/
[info]snoozeen 13th-Sep-2008 01:37 am (UTC)
I am embarrassed of my sex.

Fucking oy.
[info]sin_and_repent 13th-Sep-2008 01:59 am (UTC)
If they gave valid reasons and can back it up, that's one thing. But some of that batshit sole reason "let's vote for the woman because she is woman" is nuts.

Hell, same for the black people who vote for Obama because he's (half) black. It drives me nuts.
[info]themightybee 13th-Sep-2008 01:38 am (UTC)
OMG
[info]automat 13th-Sep-2008 01:39 am (UTC)
*starts saving for a plane ticket to England*
[info]bellichka 13th-Sep-2008 01:42 am (UTC)
I hear it's rainy this time of year.
[info]justgoaheadnow 13th-Sep-2008 01:39 am (UTC)
Yeah why are we a federal Republic when Palin could be our queen!
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