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lisaee 2nd-Feb-2011 06:44 pm (UTC)
Guardian's saying one dead, hundreds injured.

I must catch up on all this, because I'll admit that I don't really understand it. Cheers for the useful links.
brewsternorth 2nd-Feb-2011 07:05 pm (UTC)
That death toll's bound to rise, too: a good few people very seriously injured and ambulances having a dickens of a time getting into Tahrir Square.

Besides the BBC map, anyone seen updates of what's happening outside of Cairo most recently?
ladyofshalott06 2nd-Feb-2011 06:45 pm (UTC)
Oh, good, a new post.

This is getting really intense.
popehippo 2nd-Feb-2011 06:45 pm (UTC)
Gibbs signals U.S. wants Mubarak out now

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs says President Barack Obama's delivered a "frank" directive to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak yesterday that he must begin the transition to a new government now.

"The message that the president delivered clearly to President Mubarak was that the time for change had come," Gibbs said in the daily White House briefing.

NBC News' diplomatic correspondent, Andrea Mitchell, says that's diplo-speak for "blunt and unmistakable" and means the United States is telling Mubarak he has to go, no questions asked.

Reuters is quoting an administration official as saying the White House believes Hosni Mubarak's inner circle is debating whether he needs to do more. Clashes between pro- and anti-Mubarak forces could convince the Egyptian military that it needs to pressure Mubarak to take extra steps, the official said.

Gibbs warned that the administration will consider the Egyptian government's actions in reviewing decisions about the $1.5 billion in aid the United States provides.

Gibbs said Obama's unofficial envoy, former Ambassador Frank Wisner, remains in Egypt but that he knows of no plans for further discussions with Mubarak today.

Mubarak's handling of crisis, he said, will show world "exactly who he is."

Edited at 2011-02-02 06:46 pm (UTC)
popehippo 2nd-Feb-2011 06:49 pm (UTC)
On a note with the photojournalism link here, I'm noting a theme with protesters and bread. What's up with that, if anyone knows?
brewsternorth 2nd-Feb-2011 07:07 pm (UTC)
*Possibly* something to do with the way that various governments were previously subsidizing prices on staple foods and were having problems doing this during the most recent recession?
readyfuels 2nd-Feb-2011 06:53 pm (UTC)
Not sure if this has been posted in a previous post or not, but Fox News thinks Iraq = Egypt http://yfrog.com/hs6iwuj
Whatever, all them brown countries are the same anyway.
krazykat88 2nd-Feb-2011 06:54 pm (UTC)
LOL *facepalm*
cupcakery 2nd-Feb-2011 06:53 pm (UTC)
Official reports of 403 injured, but likely more, according to Al Jazeera.
ayajedi 2nd-Feb-2011 06:59 pm (UTC)
krazykat88 2nd-Feb-2011 06:57 pm (UTC)
reading the mother jones link (while in class) - I had kind of hoped that the protestors would have been able to achieve their goal without violent retaliation (from the otherside) guess that was wishful thinking :(
valueablejunk 2nd-Feb-2011 07:09 pm (UTC)
Well you can't really blame the protesters. When you get these government thugs with billy clubs and weapons attacking the protesters (who've got nothing), they have to defend themselves.
teacup_werewolf 2nd-Feb-2011 07:12 pm (UTC)
Where is your icon from?
cpsings4him 2nd-Feb-2011 07:03 pm (UTC)
This is turning into such a nightmare. D:
readyfuels 2nd-Feb-2011 07:04 pm (UTC)
Keeping an eye on the BBC. One reported death, 500ish injured.
The scenes are so brutal.
aenne036 2nd-Feb-2011 07:10 pm (UTC)
Liberty cannot always be done peacefully.
chaya 2nd-Feb-2011 07:26 pm (UTC)
What's that JFK quote? When you take away the avenues for peaceful protest, you make violent protest inevitable? Something like that.
ladypolitik 2nd-Feb-2011 07:11 pm (UTC)
Bear with me as I add useful updates; lj is being REALLY wonky.
imagines 2nd-Feb-2011 07:17 pm (UTC)
Are we breaking the internet? :p
teacup_werewolf 2nd-Feb-2011 07:13 pm (UTC)
my prayers are to the people of Egypt
aenne036 2nd-Feb-2011 07:18 pm (UTC)
At least the violence has calmed down for the moment.
x_butterfly19_x 2nd-Feb-2011 07:25 pm (UTC)
1904: The BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes says: "Heliopolis is not like the rest of Cairo. It has grand houses and leafy boulevards. Here the police are still welcomed on the streets. This is the home of Egypt's ruling elite - people like Dr Magid Boutros - a close adviser to Mr Mubarak. He says the president is now determined to stand and fight: 'He's an army man. Military commanders, if they abandon their posts, they are shot.' Outside on the street I was confronted by members of Egypt's ruling class - educated, articulate and angry. As we returned from Heliopolis our car was forced of the road by another group of angry men. They handed us over to the dreaded Mukhabarat - the secret police in their brown leather jackets. We were handcuffed and blindfolded and taken to an interrogation cell. Three hours later we were released onto a remote backstreet. The regime is hardening its attitude to the protestors and to the foreign media. Egypt's ruling class is fighting back."

popehippo 2nd-Feb-2011 07:27 pm (UTC)
D: Ew.
cpsings4him 2nd-Feb-2011 07:26 pm (UTC)
hadeelalsh Hadeel Al-Shalchi
by bencnn
the sadat metro is being used as a jail, holding pro-mubarak detainees #jan25 #egypt
x_butterfly19_x 2nd-Feb-2011 07:40 pm (UTC)
Scary stuff 0_0
chaya 2nd-Feb-2011 07:39 pm (UTC)
CNN discussing possibility of Mubarak loyalists having unleashed these new protesters. Wondering how long before they have the balls to speculate that it was Mubarak himself.
hammersxstrings 2nd-Feb-2011 07:41 pm (UTC)
CNN? Never lol
chaya 2nd-Feb-2011 07:43 pm (UTC)
PS: IVE Post?
ladypolitik 2nd-Feb-2011 07:46 pm (UTC)
deethy 2nd-Feb-2011 07:46 pm (UTC)
Very good firsthand account from Tahrir Square - http://bit.ly/gPPMmq
newantt 2nd-Feb-2011 07:49 pm (UTC)
Haven't gotten through my twitter timeline, all the tweets are painful :(
valkeakuulas 2nd-Feb-2011 07:49 pm (UTC)
My friend in the area is all right! :)
deethy 2nd-Feb-2011 07:53 pm (UTC)
that's awesome :D
watermeloncholy 2nd-Feb-2011 07:52 pm (UTC)
Of course when pro-Mubarak thugs join in, the violence starts. That alone says a hell of a lot about what kind of person Mubarak is.
watermeloncholy 2nd-Feb-2011 07:55 pm (UTC)
Egypt: Were the Army and the Cops in Cahoots All This Time?
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2045788,00.html#ixzz1Cpivaoif
ladypolitik 2nd-Feb-2011 09:35 pm (UTC)

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