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LIVE POST: Egyptian Protests Discussion Part 7

2:42 pm - 02/03/2011
watermeloncholy 3rd-Feb-2011 07:45 pm (UTC)
From Al Jazeera and other sources:

They're saying there was definitely an order for people to attack the protesters and journalists, but they don't know who it came from or how high up the person who ordered it is.
cecilia_weasley 4th-Feb-2011 02:45 am (UTC)
I wouldn't doubt it was from someone right below Mubarak and he approved it.

It's creepy how much this is resembling the Romanian revolution at the street/orders level.
watermeloncholy 3rd-Feb-2011 07:46 pm (UTC)
Mubarak says he wants to step down, but can't because he's afraid it might cause chaos...

I really think he's living in another world. Like hello, what do you call what's happening now?
pullmystrings 3rd-Feb-2011 07:47 pm (UTC)
seriously, like...what.
watermeloncholy I can't. 3rd-Feb-2011 07:50 pm (UTC)
watermeloncholy Re: I can't. 3rd-Feb-2011 07:51 pm (UTC)
Here's their twitter page:


They're attempting to apologize.
cpsings4him 3rd-Feb-2011 07:56 pm (UTC)
Did y'all see the police van mowing people down this morning?? D: That was the last thing I saw before leaving for work this morning. So awful!
teacup_werewolf 3rd-Feb-2011 07:57 pm (UTC)
Holy crap. no D:
lickety_split 3rd-Feb-2011 08:05 pm (UTC)
God it's impossible to keep up with this.
bluetooth16 3rd-Feb-2011 08:07 pm (UTC)

(My trick is to follow akuma_river on twitter because she's retweeting EVERYTHING Egypt related. Also reading all of these posts.)
popehippo 3rd-Feb-2011 08:05 pm (UTC)
Didn't see it mentioned in the other posts but hospitals are saying that the police PURPOSEFULLY are looting places to make it look like the protestors and possibly released dozens of prisoners out of jail on purpose. What in the fuck?
cecilia_weasley 4th-Feb-2011 02:47 am (UTC)
Holy shit!!!

ugh, disgusting
imagines 3rd-Feb-2011 08:09 pm (UTC)
U.S. has been freaking out a bit because of "omg what will happen to Israel," so this is interesting...

EXCLUSIVE: Yesterday Some Isralies had a small demonstration in front of the Egyptian embassy in ISRAEL, to show solidarity & support #egypt
akuma_river 3rd-Feb-2011 08:21 pm (UTC)
It's guilt over being pro-Nazi before WW2 started here.
imagines 3rd-Feb-2011 08:11 pm (UTC)

U.S. Lawmakers Call for Halting Egypt Aid to Push Mubarak Aside

I was not actually expecting that. O_O
watermeloncholy 3rd-Feb-2011 08:13 pm (UTC)
amethyst_snape 3rd-Feb-2011 08:11 pm (UTC)

don't know if anyone posted this here, but it's going around tumblr and making me HAPPY IN MY PANTS /o/
cpsings4him 3rd-Feb-2011 08:15 pm (UTC)
Oh, wow!
x_butterfly19_x 3rd-Feb-2011 08:14 pm (UTC)
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has said he would like to resign immediately but fears the country would descend into chaos if he did so.

Speaking for the first time after 10 days of anti-government protests across Egypt calling for him to resign, he told ABC News he was "fed up" of power.

He denied his supporters were behind the violence of the last two days.

He also warned that the banned Muslim Brotherhood party would fill any power vacuum if he stepped down.

Speaking to ABC's Christiane Amanpour, he vowed never to leave, saying: "I would never run away from this country. I will die on this soil."

He added that it hurt him to him to see "Egyptian fighting Egyptian".


carminaburana 3rd-Feb-2011 08:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's the same shit, different day. I love that he granted an interview with Amanpour but has refused to show his face to any Arab media other than his asinine speeches. Motherfucker is going down and it won't be soon enough.
carminaburana 3rd-Feb-2011 08:14 pm (UTC)
From WAPO: U.S. @StateDept sees "real prospect of confrontation" in #Egypt on Friday http://wapo.st/ecCKRY

No shit, really? What do you think has been going on.

imagines 3rd-Feb-2011 08:27 pm (UTC)
Certainly not any confrontations!
carminaburana 3rd-Feb-2011 08:16 pm (UTC)
@sharifkouddous Sharif Kouddous (from Democracy Now)
Tahrir is regaining it's strength. It's getting lively again after yesterday's brutal assault. #Egypt
watermeloncholy 3rd-Feb-2011 08:16 pm (UTC)
Netanyahu: A democratic Egypt won't threaten peace with Israel
PM stresses that Israel expects any government in Egypt to respect peace treaty, says instability in Egypt could last for years.

Didn't he basically say the other day that Israel supported Mubarak (since they were scared of Islamists taking over)?
bluetooth16 3rd-Feb-2011 08:21 pm (UTC)
Israel realized that these protests weren't a threat to them since EVERYONE hates Mubarek, not just the Islamists who hate Israel I guess.
carminaburana 3rd-Feb-2011 08:17 pm (UTC)
@NickKristof Nicholas Kristof
A request for the Int'l Criminal Court to investigate #Egypt. Could #Mubarak end up at the dock? http://bloom.bg/guHXWo
pyro_o 3rd-Feb-2011 08:17 pm (UTC)
(Cairo, February 3, 2011) - Peter Bouckaert, emergencies director

Human Rights Watch researcher Daniel Williams was detained by Egyptian security forces in Cairo today. Williams was one of several international and Egyptian human rights activists picked up in a raid on the Hisham Mubarak Law Center, including a researcher for Amnesty International. Human Rights Watch is endeavoring to contact Williams in custody and secure his release.

Williams' detention is part of a clear campaign against independent eyewitnesses of the violence in Egypt, including journalists and civil society activists. Human Rights Watch condemned the crackdown and called on the Egyptian government to release those detained immediately.

The offices of the law center were raided by police and army personnel. The human rights monitors were interrogated in the office before being taken away in a microbus. As they were taken away they were insulted by a group, apparently government supporters, who had gathered in the street.

Human Rights Watch is currently unaware of the whereabouts of those who were detained.

Egyptian authorities should immediately and safely release our colleague and the other human rights monitors detained today. The authorities should immediately halt the arrest and harassment of independent witnesses to the orchestrated attacks on peaceful demonstrators in Egypt.
mollywobbles867 3rd-Feb-2011 08:17 pm (UTC)

Tahrir is regaining it's strength. It's getting lively again after yesterday's brutal assault. #Egypt
4 minutes ago via txt
pyro_o 3rd-Feb-2011 08:19 pm (UTC)
TheNewsBlotter Chris

omg what the hell
childish 3rd-Feb-2011 09:10 pm (UTC)
Well, that's not surprising is it?
pyro_o 3rd-Feb-2011 08:20 pm (UTC)
SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Al Arabiya: Eleven youth leaders have been arrested by police on their way back from visiting El Baradei
pyro_o 3rd-Feb-2011 08:22 pm (UTC)
shaistaAziz Shaista Aziz
Suleiman: I will never order force against the protestors, I hope they won't march on Friday #Jan25 #Egypt #Mubarak

bit late for that, don't you think :|
carminaburana 3rd-Feb-2011 08:22 pm (UTC)
i think this was in the other post but:

@pourmecoffee: ABC has compiled frighteningly long list of threatened/harmed journalists in Egypt. http://bit.ly/dNlXD5
imagines 3rd-Feb-2011 08:22 pm (UTC)


NEW: Egyptian Rights Center May Refer Attacks to International Court: #Egypt #ICC

found a link
watermeloncholy 3rd-Feb-2011 08:22 pm (UTC)
Satiricial Kenneth Cole twitter already created: http://twitter.com/#!/kennethcolePR

Kenneth Cole Tweet Uses #Cairo To Promote Spring Collection
pyro_o 3rd-Feb-2011 08:23 pm (UTC)
I loled at the parody XD
acmeeoy 3rd-Feb-2011 08:24 pm (UTC)
A Fareed Zakaria Time article about democracy in Egypt: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2045888,00.html

An article on attacks on journalists (Two CBS workers were attacked but saved by the antigovernment demonstrators): http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_16020/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=CuxX6roG
akuma_river 3rd-Feb-2011 08:27 pm (UTC)
I posted this in the other one:

2011-02-03 01:51 pm (local) (link)

Holy shit.

Guy on AJE is saying the Mubarak is following the Ben Ali script to a t.

First speech, no acknowledgement of protests.
Second speech, minor concession but refusal to leave.
sends in thugs.
Third speech, speaks about wanting to leave but can't due to chaos.


pyro_o 3rd-Feb-2011 08:28 pm (UTC)
Protester's manifesto written by Sandmonkey

The Protesters aren't the ones who shut down the internet that has paralyzed your businesses and banks: The government did. The Protesters weren't the ones who initiated the military curfew that limited your movement and allowed goods to disappear off market shelves and gas to disappear: The government did. The Protesters weren't the ones who ordered the police to withdraw and claimed the prisons were breached and unleashed thugs that terrorized your neighborhoods: The government did.
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