ONTD Political

Previously.



Epilogue

Let me be very clear, this is not a manifesto against organized religion, church, Christianity, its various denominations, etc. This is about a singular event, the repercussions it has had on me and my family, and the fact that bullying can come from just about anywhere.

If you are unfamiliar with this blog or need a refresher, I encourage you to go back and read this post, My Son Is Gay.

So here we go. These are the facts that lead up to this rant:

     1. My son Boo goes to a church preschool, and the class goes to chapel 3 days a week. We adore his school, teachers, and director. This school is amazing, loving, and supportive.
     2. My family belongs to this church, but we are not Sunday morning attendees. My kids go to vacation bible school there, and I help when needed. We participate in various events that the church holds and/or sponsors
     3. I am the head of a mothers’ group at the church and am the only member of the congregation that belongs to it. We do a lot of community service in the name of the church.
     4. In the post that went viral, I did not name the mothers, the school, the pastor, the church, or even the denomination. I don’t plan to. That is not the point of these posts.
     5. I have told the truth, though no one at the church has asked me to recount the events.

Here’s the timeline of events involving the church:

10/29/10 Halloween party at preschool
11/02/10 Published blog post.
11/04/10 Blog picked up by national and international print, broadcast, and digital outlets. Goes viral
11/05/10 Call from Pastor at church
11/06/10 Pastor met with Elders from church to discuss my “spiritual care” and decided I had broken 8th Commandment by bearing false witness
11/08/10 Text from Pastor while we were in NYC for Today Show
11/09/10 Call from Pastor to schedule a meeting
11/10/10 Meeting in Pastor’s office, Squirt, my youngest, was present
2.5-month window with little to no contact
01/26/11 2nd and final meeting in Pastor’s office

My blog post was calling out the actions of a few people that said some unkind things in front of my son. I asked for love and tolerance. Was I angry? Yes. I feel I had a right to be. Did I bear false witness? No. I spoke out against bullying. Now I am getting bullied from church.

The first time Pastor contacted me was a few days after the Halloween post. He wanted to discuss my “spiritual care.” It was immediately clear that I was being viewed as having done something very wrong. Our initial conversation was me being called “defensive,” “vindictive,” “disrespectful,” “prideful,” and told that I “crossed a line.” I was told I needed to do penance. I was not asked about how Boo was doing.

The second discussion was a face-to-face meeting during which Squirt was present. I was handed a printout of the church’s response. There had been a meeting with some Elders, and they decided I’d broken the 8th Commandment and not followed Matthew 18. I was told that some members were worried that I was “promoting gayness.” I don’t even know what that means. The words I had written were not promoting anything other than unconditional love and tolerance. My post was about bullying and how my son was treated. My post was about a 5-year-old child. Pastor said he “tried to be mad at me, but couldn’t.” I didn’t and don’t understand why he would want to be mad at me. Again, Boo’s well-being was not mentioned.

More than 2 months later, I was called in for another meeting. Upon arriving, he started talking about my need to apologize to the women I had slandered. He read aloud to me from a brochure on Peacemaking, underscoring the fact that I needed to apologize. I disagreed. I reminded him that the only mention of ABC I have made since that Halloween post was saying that I didn’t harbor ill will towards them and that moment should not define their lives.

For an hour and a half he spoke to me as if this was my fault, that I had misconstrued what was said that morning in front of my son, that I “had taken offense where none was intended.” I told him that the comments those mothers made that morning were judgmental and offensive. He continued to accuse me of libel and slander, told me I didn’t have a “free ride to talk about others,” and that I needed to apologize and reconcile.

I was offered 4 steps to restore my relationships with Moms ABC:

     1. Write Moms ABC an apology with an example of how to word it.
     2. Take down the Halloween post.
     3. No longer write or speak of these women regarding my “accusations.”
     4. Consider taking the entire blog down.

When I asked what happens if I couldn’t do those things I was handed a final page that had already been prepared regarding my unwillingness to repent and what the ramifications of that would be. My punishment was to be disallowed from receiving Communion, and if I were to continue to not seek forgiveness, I may be removed from the congregation and not be able to transfer to another church in our denomination in good standing (which feels like the harshest punishment a modern-day pastor can dole out.). It felt like an ultimatum. I pointed out the hypocrisy of the entire conversation, mentioned that Boo had been forgotten in all of this, said the meeting was over, and walked out.

I did call someone higher up in the church a couple of days later to ask what the process is if you have an issue with your pastor. A few hours after that call, I received an email from Pastor saying he reconsidered the withholding of Communion and that the final handout was not meant as an ultimatum. The man I’d spoken to on the phone was carbon copied.

I responded on Monday 01/31/11. Much of this post came from that letter. I haven’t heard from them since.

I cannot tell you the betrayal I feel. The church, or at the very least Pastor is trying to bully me into shutting up, and I find that so disheartening. I am floored by the fact that they’ve gone to so much trouble regarding a post that discusses love and tolerance that was posted 3 months ago. I am shocked that they do not see the hypocrisy of what they are saying to me. I am in complete disbelief that this has been handled in the way it has. I have never felt less welcome in a church.

This is not the church that I grew up in. This is not the God that I know.

And again I say to you that bullying is not okay, even if you wrap it in a bow and call it ‘spiritual care.’



Source
bluetooth16 For The Confused7th-Feb-2011 02:22 am (UTC)
http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_political/7214220.html

ORIGINAL ONTD_P POST ABOUT THIS INCIDENT
lafinjack 7th-Feb-2011 02:25 am (UTC)
NUH UH I TOTALLY POSTED THE ORIGINAL ORIGINAL POST
popehippo 7th-Feb-2011 02:29 am (UTC)
This lady is my big damn hero.

lestat 7th-Feb-2011 02:30 am (UTC)
Agreed, so much. If I ever have kids, I aspire to be this amazing.
nightcamedown 7th-Feb-2011 02:31 am (UTC)
There are no words to express the rage I'm feeling right now. I hope this mom finds a new and more inclusive spiritual home, because it's clear that the church she loves is merely the institutional equivalent of the ignorant, shaming, bullying moms that caused this entire mess.

The church is worse, in face, because at least the moms were acting impulsively, whereas the church is acting with deliberate malice. Fuck them.
be_prepared 7th-Feb-2011 02:32 am (UTC)
Never fails to amaze me of how much worse parents can be than their children.
lafinjack 7th-Feb-2011 02:37 am (UTC)
Yep, and that's where the next generation is formed, unfortunately.
evewithanapple 7th-Feb-2011 02:36 am (UTC)
Well, that's something.

And by "something" I mean "bullshit."

bluetooth16 7th-Feb-2011 02:39 am (UTC)
Jules!
eversofar 7th-Feb-2011 02:39 am (UTC)
This is absolutely fucking appalling. Does this pastor think Jesus would blackmail her into apologizing? Or that God is really that concerned about a boy dressing up as Daphne from Scooby Doo?
lafinjack 7th-Feb-2011 02:42 am (UTC)
astridmyrna 7th-Feb-2011 02:42 am (UTC)
Damn. Well, I hope she finds a better church that won't stab her in the back like this current one.
haeralis 7th-Feb-2011 03:01 am (UTC)
Some of the comments at the source are making me see red.
homasse 7th-Feb-2011 04:12 am (UTC)
Yeah, some of the commenters need a good, firm crotch-punch.
nyychick23513 7th-Feb-2011 03:14 am (UTC)
Ugh, how disgusting. Good for her not cowing to them. I hope she finds a better church that isn't hypocritical.
cecilia_weasley 7th-Feb-2011 03:24 am (UTC)
I'm glad she posted this and isn't going to do what the church tells her to do. This kind of attitude that her church pastor has will keep many people away from organized religion.
ladyhrist 7th-Feb-2011 03:35 am (UTC)
Ugh, how gross. I hope for her sake she leaves that church and finds another one more welcoming. The fact that this pastor would try to bully her into removing her remarks about the people who hurt her son is just appalling.
haruhiko 7th-Feb-2011 04:04 am (UTC)
I have never felt less welcome in a church. This is not the church that I grew up in. This is not the God that I know.

Unfortunately for many people, either those who are gay or those who speak out against religious intolerance, this is exactly the sort of church they grew up in and the god that they know. In fact, there are probably many people in this woman's own church who have had to deal with similar, if not worse forms of intimidation, threats, and/or ostracism over the years. The only reason this woman is seeing this sort of behavior being directed toward her now is because she made the church "look bad" and dared to speak up in defense of a "sinful" minority and challenge the authority, the established church mode(s) of conduct, and the social cliques that are rampant in organized religion. This is the true face of what her church has been peddling all along, and she has just finally seen beneath the mask.

Regardless it's really unfortunate that she's getting this kind of horrid blowback from her church and are basically being bullied by them; I know what that's like (though in my case it happened in a far more informal manner) and it's not fun. They don't deserve her as a member of their congregation and if she leaves or is kicked out I hope many more leave in protest and solidarity.
homasse 7th-Feb-2011 04:13 am (UTC)
I guess "Sorry you're all a bunch of jackholes" wouldn't be a very good apology letter to those mothers and the pastor, would it?
thelilyqueen 7th-Feb-2011 02:07 pm (UTC)
Good apology? No.
Good letter? Yes.

Hers is the kind of uncompromising stand we need to see more parents taking, if not directly for their own kids for the sake of their kids' friends, classmates, teammates, etc.
lykomancer 7th-Feb-2011 04:37 am (UTC)
Yeah, I bet the Pharisees wanted Jesus to apologize, too. "You threw all the money-changers out of the Temple!? YOU CAN'T DO THAT! SAY YOU'RE SORRY RIGHT NOW!"
salienne 7th-Feb-2011 04:39 am (UTC)
My punishment was to be disallowed from receiving Communion, and if I were to continue to not seek forgiveness, I may be removed from the congregation and not be able to transfer to another church in our denomination in good standing.

Are you fucking kidding me.
astridmyrna 7th-Feb-2011 06:02 am (UTC)
That's what fucking pissed me off the most. Y'know, it's one thing for your church to kick you out because that church specifically felt offended, it's another to be threatened to be fucking blacklisted.
compost75 7th-Feb-2011 04:44 am (UTC)
jesus fuck

I just spent the last 4 minutes hollering at the computer screen. Boo's mom should be considered for an ambassador's post for her demonstration of grace in the face of ugly, ugly behavior.

This is exactly why I left my church.
celtic_thistle 7th-Feb-2011 05:16 am (UTC)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand people wonder why I have fucking nothing to do with the church I grew up in anymore. Because they bully people into living their lives how the church wants them to. So much for free will.

Boo's mom is awesome.

Edited at 2011-02-07 05:16 am (UTC)
aviv_b 7th-Feb-2011 05:18 am (UTC)
Last time I checked, bearing false witness mean 'lying' not 'saying embarassing but true things.' Pastor, you're doing it wrong.

As a person of faith, though not a Christian, I hope she find a church where the love of G-d triumphs over the hate of man.

Edited at 2011-02-07 05:19 am (UTC)
doverz 7th-Feb-2011 05:37 am (UTC)
I really do not get the argument that God hates people who are gay. Ummmmmmmmm, if Christians believe that God made the universe, that implies that he made people who are gay. I just don't see how God can hate a group of people that he has made.

Also, fuck this church.
la_sabre 7th-Feb-2011 07:07 am (UTC)
Some of those people think that LGBT people choose to be LGBT. Some think that LGBT people are born LGBT but that "they just shouldn't act on it" or whatever that's supposed to mean.
la_sabre 7th-Feb-2011 07:06 am (UTC)
Some of those people think that LGBT people choose to be LGBT. Some think that LGBT people are born LGBT but that "they just shouldn't act on it" or whatever that's supposed to mean.
la_sabre 7th-Feb-2011 07:15 am (UTC)
Uuuugh. I meant to reply to the comment above this. >_>

Anyway, what others are saying. This sort of crap is why I left the church.
somatosensation 7th-Feb-2011 11:20 am (UTC)
Boo has a wonderful mother.

I hate that this woman has to go through such bullshit due to what amounts to church politics, and good on her for walking out and responding in such a calm manner to all of this. I hope that she can find a place of spiritual worship that won't pressure her like this.

Also, the portion of barring her from taking communion really fucking threw me for a loop. I don't know much about the practices of Christianity, at all. Having said that, I thought it wasn't for humans to decide who was and wasn't allowed to partake of the blood and body.
_sockmonk_ 7th-Feb-2011 01:19 pm (UTC)
This woman is awesome, and I can't even believe how the church treated her. Ugh.
chaya 7th-Feb-2011 02:01 pm (UTC)
So awesome. I love this woman. (Surprised that she's surprised by a modern-day Church being passive-aggressive and homophobic, but that's probably my personal experience with churches talking...)
watermeloncholy 7th-Feb-2011 11:43 pm (UTC)
lol hypocrisy like this runs rampant in the church...
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