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Randy Forbes (R-VA): Passport forms assault traditional families

9:49 pm - 02/13/2011
Forbes slams same-sex 'parent' fields on passport forms

U.S. Rep. Randy Forbes is accusing the State Department of conducting an assault on "traditional American family relationships" by changing how citizens can refer to their parentage on passport applications.

Forbes is upset that passport forms that now require applicants to provide information about their mother and father will change so that applicants are asked to list two people as "mother/father/parent."

The change would allow applicants to list a mother and father, two mothers, or two fathers.


Initially, the State Department announced in December that it was going to nix the titles "mother" and "father" altogether and simply require applicants to provide information for two parents.

When Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton heard about it, she insisted that the designations of mother and father be included, said John Echard, a State Department spokesman.

That led to the new "mother/father/parent" labels, which are set to be used on new applications starting March 1.

"It's a change that relates to today's parents," Echard said.

But Forbes said that change isn't sufficient.

This week he filed a bill, HR635, that would require the forms retain only the "father" and "mother" categories.

The Chesapeake Republican said it will only be a matter of time before the mother and father designation are set aside entirely.

"It's a bridge too far to say we need to do away with our whole nomenclature of mother and father," Forbes said. "I do not believe there is any other country in the world that does that."

His bill would "require all federal agencies, contractors, and government-sponsored enterprises to use the words 'mother' and 'father' when describing parents in all official documents and forms," according to a statement by his office.

"Symbolism is important and this legislation seeks to preserve the sacred relationship mothers and fathers share with their children," Forbes said. "These subtle, but nonetheless significant, changes undermine the traditional American family relationships that have served as the bedrock of our nation since its inception."


James Parrish, executive director of Equality Virginia, a gay rights advocacy group, said he was happy to hear about the passport changes and strongly disagrees with Forbes.

"This passport change is doing nothing more than recognize the families that already exist in this nation," he said.

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It must be nice to have a life so perfect that acknowledging someone else's same-sex relationship is a personal threat to you.
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snapesgirl34 14th-Feb-2011 12:51 pm (UTC)
"U.S. Rep. Randy Forbes is accusing the State Department of conducting an assault on "traditional American family relationships" by changing how citizens can refer to their parentage on passport applications."

Translation: BAAWWWWWWWWWWW!

Please strait, cis, Christian, white guys, you're not oppressed, stop pretending to be. It's not as fun or glamorous as you seem to think it is.
lastrega 14th-Feb-2011 01:00 pm (UTC)
Oh no, is someone oppressing the straight people again? Poor defenseless creatures; we should throw them a telethon.
snapesgirl34 14th-Feb-2011 01:18 pm (UTC)
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dramaturgy 14th-Feb-2011 01:07 pm (UTC)
What is it going take to clue people in that this is not oppression?
erunamiryene 14th-Feb-2011 02:34 pm (UTC)
I'm starting to think nothing will actually accomplish that task.
apocalypsos 14th-Feb-2011 01:22 pm (UTC)
"These subtle, but nonetheless significant, changes undermine the traditional American family relationships that have served as the bedrock of our nation since its inception."

Oh, please. I hate how these assholes always talk like in the past everybody had a happily married mom and dad and a golden retriever and a white picket fence. I can't even say that in my own damn family. My maternal great-grandparents were married to other people, then either got divorced or widowed and hooked up without getting married for the next fifty years. My paternal great-grandmother got knocked up on a cruise and gave my grandfather up for adoption. And my paternal grandparents got divorced, my grandmother remarried, her new husband adopted my dad, and that's how I still have two grandpas. Everybody's family is different.
arisma 14th-Feb-2011 01:29 pm (UTC)
"Everybody's family is different."

What a shocking concept.
nothingmuch 14th-Feb-2011 01:37 pm (UTC)
"It's a bridge too far to say we need to do away with our whole nomenclature of mother and father," Forbes said.

But we're not. "Mother/father/parent" includes mother and father.

His bill would "require all federal agencies, contractors, and government-sponsored enterprises to use the words 'mother' and 'father' when describing parents in all official documents and forms," according to a statement by his office.

So much for Republicans being the party of small government & less needless, nonsensical regulatory bureaucracy.
crytam 14th-Feb-2011 01:42 pm (UTC)
Most Republicans say they want small government, but whenever it comes to defending their morals and beliefs, there are no ends.
drakyndra 14th-Feb-2011 01:37 pm (UTC)
Just to clarify: In Australia, there is no information about your actual parents on the passport itself, it's only relevant for the application, which will only be seen by the authorities processing it. I assume America is the same way.

Is this guy seriously claiming it's undermining families to refer to someone as a "parent" on a form only a few people, who should be obeying privacy laws anyway will see?
nothingmuch 14th-Feb-2011 01:39 pm (UTC)
yep
crytam 14th-Feb-2011 01:40 pm (UTC)
Ai ya, whenever things take a step in the right direction there are always people there to spew hate and ignorance in order to change things back to the way they were.

:) I like this change! And I hope that the HR635 fails.

Honestly, I don't get why people are taking the "allowing gays to be socially accepted + have the same rights" thing as some kind of personal affront.
othellia 14th-Feb-2011 02:48 pm (UTC)
Honestly, I don't get why people are taking the "allowing gays to be socially accepted + have the same rights" thing as some kind of personal affront.

But they're totally icky, don't cha know?
danceprincess20 14th-Feb-2011 01:44 pm (UTC)
How fucking stupid. So how does he feel if grandparents or an aunt and uncle are raising the kid or something? We just call them parents? I mean, come on.
ahkna 14th-Feb-2011 02:27 pm (UTC)
Don't you know that NEVER HAPPENS? There are only families with one mother and one father and then those sinful gay families. Never anything else.
shoujokakumei 14th-Feb-2011 01:54 pm (UTC)
I'll never truly understand why some folks get so fucking upset because options exist that don't apply to them.

I bet this guy also gets mad when telephone recordings ask him to press 2 if he'd like to hear the menus in Spanish.
snapesgirl34 14th-Feb-2011 04:05 pm (UTC)
Probably. He wants things to apply to him and ONLY him. The fact that other people who aren't exactly like him exist in the world probably enrages him.
schmanda 14th-Feb-2011 02:12 pm (UTC)
Let me apologize on behalf of Virginia for this tiresome asshole. He's so odious (obviously), part of the reason I moved to the city of Richmond was so he wouldn't be my rep anymore. (Pray for me that my rep doesn't get districted out, though.)
ook 14th-Feb-2011 02:21 pm (UTC)
How about some legislation that will create some JOBS? >:|
dark_puck 14th-Feb-2011 03:45 pm (UTC)
"How about some legislation that will create some JOBS? >:|"

THIS, THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THIS
nikim 14th-Feb-2011 02:26 pm (UTC)
Cry moar you piece of shit bigot. I'm always amazed at how republicans can be all LESS GOVERNMENT !!1! Until it comes to opressing other citizens. Shaking my fists rn.
erunamiryene 14th-Feb-2011 02:33 pm (UTC)
Good gravy, doesn't it get fucking tiring thinking that EVERY. SINGLE. THING. IN. THE. ENTIRE. WIDE. WORLD has to do with you, and if you don't like it it's an attack on you?

Can we somehow MAKE it tiring so these assholes SHUT THE HELL UP for two fucking minutes?
oaktree89 14th-Feb-2011 02:34 pm (UTC)
OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

I just don't have any words for how stupid this is.
aviv_b 14th-Feb-2011 02:46 pm (UTC)
Stupid is as stupid does. Dear straight Christian white man, its not always about you. You can still list your mommy and daddy on the form. So this really doesn't effect you. So please do us a favor STFU!
eversofar 14th-Feb-2011 03:03 pm (UTC)
These subtle, but nonetheless significant, changes undermine the traditional American family relationships that have served as the bedrock of our nation since its inception

Not really.
c_yo_yus 14th-Feb-2011 03:06 pm (UTC)
Holy 'This Is Not Even Remotely An Issue', Batman!
angelofdeath275 14th-Feb-2011 03:13 pm (UTC)
U.S. Rep. Randy Forbes is accusing the State Department of conducting an assault on "traditional American family relationships" by changing how citizens can refer to their parentage on passport applications.

Hate to break it to you, but that nuclear traditional family BS is outdated. Not only does it exclude same-sex families, but it also excludes people who lived w/ their grandparents.
simona_zetsubou 14th-Feb-2011 05:35 pm (UTC)
Yep. It excludes kids like me, too, growing up with one parent and a random relative because of a death. And kids raised by friends of the family. I'm sure I could think of more, too.
machineist 14th-Feb-2011 03:22 pm (UTC)
awhhhhhhhhhhh poor them!!!!!!
doverz 14th-Feb-2011 03:34 pm (UTC)
My parents feel the same way, sadly enough. My parents were talking about this and I said I was alright with it and then my mom starts going off on a tangent about how "A child needs a mother and a father, not two mothers or two fathers." And that's when I leave.

This is so stupid. "Homosexual parents attacking traditional American family values" aside, this would make it so much easier administratively. So, really, what's the big deal?
thelilyqueen 14th-Feb-2011 04:41 pm (UTC)
Seriously. And, I can see the argument for kids having two parents/guardians. The other can play backup if one is sick or otherwise dealing with extra demands on their time and energy, there's a certain level of checks and balances (providing the parents/guardians can ultimately work things out) in having two parenting styles and two perspectives on parenting issues, etc. But, none of that requires that the parents be a man and a woman, or the child's bioparents at all.
24_24_1_1526 14th-Feb-2011 03:37 pm (UTC)
eyetosky 14th-Feb-2011 03:38 pm (UTC)
Or... it means that you can fill in the names of a mother and a father in no particular order.

MY GOD, MAN!
popehippo 14th-Feb-2011 03:43 pm (UTC)
LOOK AT ALL THE FUCKS I GIVE:

Edited at 2011-02-14 03:44 pm (UTC)
lightbird777 14th-Feb-2011 10:15 pm (UTC)
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arcadiasilver This whole post is purely sarcastic14th-Feb-2011 03:44 pm (UTC)
Hey jerkwad? You stop attacking same sex/non-conventional families and we'll stop attacking your traditional ones.

Oh wait, you wont let us have families. So you shouldn't be allowed to have them either. Oh la~
vanishing_cake 14th-Feb-2011 03:52 pm (UTC)
Oh no. That's my representative.



He's an asshole of the moronic variety, but we've never been able to vote him out - unfortunately, most of our constituents are with him on homophobic crap like this. Virginia is for heterosexual lovers.
firstwifetracy 15th-Feb-2011 12:40 am (UTC)
OH sweet baby Zeus, you too? I voted for Wynne but I knew he stood a snowballs chance of getting elected.

I sent Forbes a strongly-worded email via his website telling him to grow up. Wish I'd c&p'd it to post.
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