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12:16 pm - 10/28/2011

The 'We are the 53%' Tumblr is Heartbreaking


Forbes: Contributor E.D. Kain, 10/13/2011 @ 12:16PM

I have perused both the ‘We are the 99%’ Tumblr and the ‘We are the 53%’ Tumblr and I’ve come to this conclusion: the latter is far more heartbreaking than the former, if unintentionally so.

For one thing, most of the fifty-three-percenters are probably not actually in the 53%. Many describe a life of hardship, unemployment or underemployment, and dependence on government jobs and services. Take this one, for instance:



After this young woman’s father was diagnosed with thyroid cancer, he was told by the doctor to take it easy since he’s a manual laborer. Yet he went back to work full-time, working 12 hours a day, six days a week. She writes, “The cancer still grows. That is the American dream.”

Tell me this isn’t heartbreaking. Not just the story, but the sentiment.

The notion that this is the American dream, that men diagnosed with a horrible cancer should work 72 hours a week to support their families, is deeply tragic. There ought to be better visions of society than this.

I think that’s what the Occupy Wall Street protesters are saying: We should be able to craft a more human economy that doesn’t allow this sort of thing to happen, that rewards hard work and alleviates suffering and risk.

Source is FORBES, people. FORBES!!
angry_chick 28th-Oct-2011 08:48 pm (UTC)
And I'm slightly curious as to what this girl is doing? I'm curious as to what work she's actually doing rather than posting anecdata.

My ancestors? Came over here doing UNPAID labor. Sunup to Sundown. But I doubt that this child would want to hear about that.
origamicage 28th-Oct-2011 08:53 pm (UTC)
A little off topic, but I clicked on your profile and saw lalolitas. It made me stop and think - the lolita and goth communities really are quite racist, aren't they? Wow. I never realized that.
hyuga 28th-Oct-2011 09:44 pm (UTC)
EGL is so full of horrible people--as such I tend to stay away from it these days, despite there being plenty of good people too. It's just not worth it.
fishphile 28th-Oct-2011 10:10 pm (UTC)
Obviously not the OP, but I do identify as goth. I only stick to the PoC online goth communities. I tried doing the general online goth communities when I first embraced it, but just couldn't.

IRL goth, metal, punk communities can be uncomfortable to navigate imo (goth clubs have both been fun and rage inducing for me for various reasons). The ratio of fun and awesome people have fortunately outweighed the annoying assholish ones.

If you want a tiny peek into the feeling, I'd recommend the Afro-Punk documentary.
angelofdeath275 28th-Oct-2011 10:31 pm (UTC)
Wait, you identify as goth?


...I'll be paying more attention to you from now on.
fishphile 28th-Oct-2011 11:15 pm (UTC)
Yes, I do. I went through a small punk phase before morphing into a goth/punk/industrial/ebm combination. I'm probably more into electro-industrial (specifically aggrotech) these days (combichrist, god module, uberbyte, skinny puppy), but I have a love for batcave bands and other 80's goth. Sex Gang Children is my favorite 80's goth band. And I love a great night out in a goth club.

Are you a goth?
angelofdeath275 28th-Oct-2011 11:46 pm (UTC)
I'm lolita, but went through the goffic phase in high school. My everyday wear has elements of punk sometimes (though its all mainly j-fashion inspired), but I listen to a wide variety of music including some j-gothic industial music.
romp 29th-Oct-2011 12:17 am (UTC)
Batcave! I was a fan of those bands the first time around--I am old--esp Alien Sex Fiend. (The Birthday Party was MY band tho' they don't belong in that category)
/nostalgia
origamicage 28th-Oct-2011 10:39 pm (UTC)
I feel rather stupid and privileged for not realizing this before now.
fishphile 28th-Oct-2011 11:09 pm (UTC)
I'm not very tumblr savvy, but the third entry currently down here with the photos: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/black+goth has some good links about the stuff people say about black goths online.

When I first started going to goth clubs, I went to one in D.C. where a number of black and latino goths frequent. I made the mistake of writing this experience down where some of my white goth acquaintances could read and it was a shitfest. A bunch of "why can't we be colorblind?" crap.

I find that the asshole people in goth either want everyone to be colorblind, don't think black people can be goths or fetishize us.

Some folks are just assholes too. I remember going to Dracula's Ball in Philly years ago waiting in line and some white dudebro dressed as a pirate/new romantic looking guy saying the N word a lot and there was one other black guy near me and he was like, "It's cool, it's cool!" and I was like WTF?! Of course he also told me I'd be pretty if I lost weight so I'm sure he was just an overall asshole.
rayiroth 29th-Oct-2011 06:59 am (UTC)
Hmm, interesting. I felt far more accepted in the peripheral goth community than I was as a, um, "vanilla civ" if that's even a thing; but I think I lucked out there as I was never self-ID'ed as a goth so much as to go out and look for info online. Note that I'm not black, I'm Asian.

CGL and cosplay, urgh. Or rather, I think in some of the right communities it can be incredibly pleasant and supportive; but I don't really look for them online fearing of bursting a few small vessels.

A bit OT: how do you feel about Steampunk? I have mixed feelings about it but I don't want to speak too much (yet) because I'm really interested on how others see it.
angelofdeath275 29th-Oct-2011 02:13 pm (UTC)
East Asians are given more leeway due to goth movements in Japan n such and for being light-skinned, and in America at least, American is very anti-black.
angelofdeath275 28th-Oct-2011 10:34 pm (UTC)
Very. Proof that white people are only superficially different from so-called mainstream preppy white people.
origamicage 28th-Oct-2011 10:40 pm (UTC)
My eyes are open. I feel really privileged that I did not see this before now. It's messed up.

(also hello other severely tokophobic person how you doing?)
angelofdeath275 29th-Oct-2011 02:14 pm (UTC)
I went to bed shortly afterwards:

lol I'm doing fine. How about you (other than learning about sub-cultural white people)?
angry_chick 29th-Oct-2011 05:20 am (UTC)
And it's so funny because in most instances, the Black lolitas that I've come across IRL (and this is a pretty good amount) ALWAYS look good. I think it's because we realize that there is an unreal standard that we are held to and we not only meet it, but we surpass it. I think there exists an element of fear there among white lolitas that are more subpar in the fashion.

Pretty much every lolita that has claimed that black people have no place in the fashion has ALWAYS looked like shit. As I've said once before, Black women ARE in your fashion, and we're rocking the shit out of it, and all some of these lolitas can do is hate; Hate on us for looking better than them in a fashion that ORIGINATES IN JAPAN.
roseofjuly 29th-Oct-2011 07:19 am (UTC)
I just did a Google search for Black lolita and all I came up with were black lolita dresses.

So then I googled African American lolitas and I found two pictures. The rest were pictures of generic African American people.
angry_chick 29th-Oct-2011 05:08 am (UTC)
I've found that there are a fair amount of white lolitas that only think that white or asian lolitas can do the fashion. And even then, it's limited to paler skinned, Northeastern Asians, rather than anyone darker-skinned.

In general, sad to say, wherever you find white people, you will find a good amount of racism.
roseofjuly 29th-Oct-2011 07:16 am (UTC)
This. If we want to play the "my ancestors had it hard" game I'm pretty sure that brown people on average would hold that down. And yet I haven't seen any brown faces in the 53% movement.
chrys20 29th-Oct-2011 02:04 pm (UTC)
Is there something I'm missing? Isn't the "American Dream" part really sarcastic? Because I'm brown and I think it's pretty fucking harsh that her father has to work 72 hours a week while he has fucking cancer because they don't have insurance.
roseofjuly 29th-Oct-2011 06:04 pm (UTC)
Yeah, you're missing something.

I was referring to the 53% movement as a whole. I have yet to see any person of color participating in this little blog/movement/whatever you want to call it; they've all been white people and the majority of the ones I've seen have been white college students. Most of them tell some tale of woe about how their parents, grandparents, or some ancestor of theirs immigrated here (voluntarily) to make a better life for their family, worked their ass off, and...well, is still lower-middle or working class.

It's like they're thinking they should get some kind of cookie for their white ancestors getting rubber-stamped at Ellis Island and allowed to move wherever they wanted to to work for pay, whereas my ancestors were kidnapped from their homes, dragged to the shore, packed into slave ships, witnessed their comrades dying around them and sat in filth and corpses for months as they crossed the Atlantic, and then were sold off to the highest bidder. Then legally enslaved, beaten, and forced to work the land for free. And I'm middle-class now and I STILL think people should pay their goddamn taxes.

It's not that I don't have sympathy for her father - I do. And I have sympathy for her, too. But at the same time, I'm really fucking annoyed that 1) she thinks she has a lock on ancestor sob stories and 2) she's holding this up as a reason AGAINST Occupy Wall Street, as she apparently has no brain!
supermishelle 29th-Oct-2011 07:19 pm (UTC)
I want to frame this comment and put it on my ceiling so I can gaze at it while I'm having sex.
chrys20 30th-Oct-2011 09:33 am (UTC)
Oh, okay. I just thought the first comment of this thread was really weird, because this girl and her father were obviously refugees of the Balkan wars. It sounded too much of 'Oppression Olympics'.

But yeah, I'm probably missing a lot of cultural context. I'm just scratching my head at using this sort of story *against* the Wall Street Protests.
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