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Girl, 9, Facing Four Felonies For Wild School Bus Tantrum, Battering Sheriff's Deputy

9:50 am - 11/07/2011
A nine-year-old Florida girl is facing four felony charges after she allegedly threw a tantrum yesterday on a school bus, spit on the driver, threw rocks at the bus, and tossed a patio chair at a cop, who she warned, “I will fuckin kill you!”

The child, a fourth grader at the Royal Palm School in Fort Myers, was traveling home when the driver told her to stop eating candy on the bus. The girl “became very upset” and started yelling obscenities at driver Robert Middleton, according to a Lee County Sheriff’s Office report.

After threatening to strike other children on the bus, the girl jumped off the bus (but not before spitting on Middleton). She then allegedly started throwing pieces of asphalt at the bus.

When a sheriff’s deputy arrived on the scene and ordered the child to stop throwing the asphalt, she replied, “Fuck you! Fuck you!” The child added, “Shut the fuck up. I will fuckin kill you.”

After warning that she would hurt him, the child “picked up an aluminum patio chair and threw it at me,” reported a deputy. After blocking the chair with his arm, the cop restrained the child, who then “attempted to bite my arm and said, ‘I am going to kill you, get off of me!”

The pint-sized terror was charged with battery on a public school employee, resisting arrest with violence, battery on a law enforcement officer, and throwing a deadly missile into an occupied vehicle.

The girl, pictured in the above mug shot [OP note: like hell I'm providing that], was released into her parents's custody last night and placed on home detention for 21 days.

Source has the mug shot... with the eyes censored out. Oh, in that case she's totally anonymous!

There are several problems with this story... not sure where to begin, so I'm'a just post it and share the rage.
mollywobbles867 7th-Nov-2011 02:53 pm (UTC)
riath 7th-Nov-2011 02:59 pm (UTC)
How do you charge a nine year old with felonies? What's the age of criminal responsibility in Florida anyway?
chaya 7th-Nov-2011 03:00 pm (UTC)
Idk, but I hope this is all thrown out as soon as it hits court. I can understand a bus driver maybe not thinking it through and pressing charges, but I don't give anybody else involved int his any such excuse.
lickety_split 7th-Nov-2011 02:59 pm (UTC)
throwing a deadly missile into an occupied vehicle.

chaya 7th-Nov-2011 03:01 pm (UTC)
Patio chairs are often decorated with lit molotov cocktails in Florida. Didn't you know?
washable 7th-Nov-2011 03:05 pm (UTC)
Instead of pressing charges against this little girl, maybe they should check out the home situation and her mental state....
kitanabychoice 7th-Nov-2011 03:43 pm (UTC)
That would be too much like right.
archanglrobriel 7th-Nov-2011 03:06 pm (UTC)
And this is news because? I mean seriously...I used to work with special needs kids and kids with emotional/behavioral issues and this was just a frickin' day at the office for me. I got hit, kicked, bit, spit on, shoved, punched, cursed out and called every name in the book but as a professional whose JOB involved working with children - including the B-mod kids, I knew how to handle it, how not to escalate and how much help these kids get what they needed to get their anger/emotionality "back in the box" when they went off like that. I didn't call the COPS for cryin' out loud.
I'm getting really worried and upset at the way I keep hearing stories like this popping up in the Big People News with the adults and the police overreacting (I recall one where they tazed a 10 year old because he "wouldn't calm down" and was making threats) and everyone going "gasp!" and clutching their pearls over the fact that these children exist.

Honestly, if people knew how many of these kids, when they finally come down from their wobblers will collapse in your arms and just cry their hearts out because they're so sorry and they don't know -why- they get so mad or how to control it....it breaks your heart.
These kids don't need to be criminalized and shamed and publicly pointed out, they need interventions, b-mod courses, extensive counseling, competent teachers and cops and BUS DRIVERS who are trained to deal with them and OH YEAH some $#@! compassion.

Putting her mug shot out in public...yeah, that'll HELP things. Jeezus H. Why don't they just drag her down to the town square and stick her in the stocks so villagers can throw tomatoes at her?

Edited at 2011-11-07 03:08 pm (UTC)
smilenoddelete 7th-Nov-2011 03:10 pm (UTC)
Exactly. Although they don't specify that this child is considered special needs. If she is, they should've handled this better. If not, she needs an evaluation and a lot of behavioral management. And maybe some meds, all around. ;-)
beokitty 7th-Nov-2011 03:21 pm (UTC)
Poor kid sounds like she's got some major issues. I hope she has a parent to advocate for her & get her some help. I can't imagine they'll really push the felonies, and if she's engaged in such aggressive behavior before perhaps they are just trying to create some feeling of consequence to let her/her parents know that shit is serious & cant be ignored, in case they are completely detached.
atomic_joe2 7th-Nov-2011 03:25 pm (UTC)
Whoa! Throwing asphalt using rude words and going a little bit crazy, nothing like any kid I've ever heard of. Next stop Guantanamo Bay, young lady!
flyghosh 7th-Nov-2011 03:30 pm (UTC)
Why, why, why did I read the comments?!

kitschaster 7th-Nov-2011 03:36 pm (UTC)
Oh god, I saw your comment, and read the comments myself. Some were good...the rest of them made up for the good ones.
kitschaster 7th-Nov-2011 03:31 pm (UTC)
Edit: You know, I can't judge the situation by my personal situation, but it could be home issues, bullying issues, or psychological issues. All in all, this is no way to deal with the underlying problem.

Edited at 2011-11-07 03:35 pm (UTC)
chaya 7th-Nov-2011 03:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah, this could be nature or nurture (or a combo of the two).
gloraelin 7th-Nov-2011 03:36 pm (UTC)
I can't get over the fact that she was released into the custody of her parents, when it's incredibly likely that's where she learned this sort of behavior. If not them, then someone in her life, and getting charged like this is likely to cause even more bad things to happen.

[also, I have to admit I'm surprised-in-a-good-way that none of the actual articles I've seen have made this a racial issue. It's just the commenters on said articles.]
chaya 7th-Nov-2011 03:37 pm (UTC)
Or her parents haven't made her like this, but rather don't have the resources to fully treat her condition. Either is possible. Js.
littlelauren86 7th-Nov-2011 04:09 pm (UTC)
Sounds like there are some real winners in her life. They need to check out her home life obviously.

leprofessional 7th-Nov-2011 04:39 pm (UTC)
I like how everyone automatically blames the parents.
chaya 7th-Nov-2011 05:13 pm (UTC)
Saw it coming tbh. I'm still waiting on "she shouldn't be let out of the house".
myrrhmade 7th-Nov-2011 05:11 pm (UTC)
What in the actual fuck @ this bullshit? To add to the bullshit, I made the mistake of reading the comments.
crossfire 7th-Nov-2011 05:16 pm (UTC)
*wonders if race is involved*

*looks at source*

Now I understand.
shadowpiranha 7th-Nov-2011 05:25 pm (UTC)
Wow I didn't click the source at first.

I see. For fuck's sake.
shadowpiranha 7th-Nov-2011 05:24 pm (UTC)
You can formally charge nine year-olds?

Also for fuck's sake if she's acting like this at 9 shouldn't they be more concerned about her mental welfare? I mean, that attitude can't spell good things for the environment she's growing up in.

DEADLY MISSILES?! ASPHALT IS A DEADLY MISSILE?! I can't even, I'll just go do what I was doing before I read this.
chaya 7th-Nov-2011 05:35 pm (UTC)
Actually, her environment could be fine. There are several mental health problems that lead to behavioral and anger outbursts that have nothing to do with how the person was raised and everything to do with their brain chemistry.
vanillakokakola 7th-Nov-2011 05:52 pm (UTC)
oh my god, how are the comments at the source even real?

i can only hope that since those are people commenting with their FB profile that future employers will google them and then not hire them. just... gross.
kitanabychoice 7th-Nov-2011 06:19 pm (UTC)
Yes! I thought to myself, "you're commenting with facebook so now everybody knows how disgusting and bigoted you are. there is a bit of justice in the world after all."
ishachan 7th-Nov-2011 06:51 pm (UTC)
I'm taking a business law class right now and in Florida if you're under 7 there is no criminal liability but between the ages of 7 and 14 the courst has to prove you had no criminal liability. So if the court can prove criminal intent, you can be charged with a crime over the age of 7. The girl obviously has deep issues regardless. I know it all sounds so ludicrous but her actions threatened to harm not just the bus driver but other children on the bus. Grant it the court will probably take into account that givern her age she didn't realize the ramifications of her actions on those around her. That's Florida law for you.
mellawe 7th-Nov-2011 07:04 pm (UTC)
my brother once threw me through a glass door (we were fighting about something and he pushed me) and I trashed my door and a lot of plants and books and... well a lot of other things . Nobody was arrested though
chaya 7th-Nov-2011 07:35 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure if I understand the relevance of this statement to the OP...? This all sounds like stuff that happened at home.
massielita 7th-Nov-2011 07:41 pm (UTC)
I studied to be an ESE teacher and worked with emotional/behavior students and behavior like this is pretty much a typical day. The article doesn't mention if this child is special needs but she's obviously has something going on that is causing this behavior. It may or may not be the parents, it may or may not be an underlying psychological issue. However, arresting and charging her with felonies and sticking her in juvie is not going to address her issues. Sad tbh.
notgarystu 7th-Nov-2011 07:47 pm (UTC)
The greatest country in the world, ladies and gentlemen~
saintly_heretic 7th-Nov-2011 08:44 pm (UTC)

are they serious?? felonies RUIN lives, this is a 9 year old CHILD. i didn't even think it was possible for a child to receive a felony sentence. this is so infuriating and sad.
angelofdeath275 7th-Nov-2011 08:51 pm (UTC)
Who in the fuck charges a 9 yr old with a felony??!?! Why not get her help because its obvious she did not freak out over the candy, its probably she has feld in for a while??!

*looks at mug shot*

starbeams 7th-Nov-2011 08:56 pm (UTC)
They did that to my cousin when she was 12 too. She attacked her mother with a knife while she was doing dishes (because she hated her jerk stepfather) and then fled the house. Police went to find her and they approached her being hostile and she ran away. They tackled her and she punched the police officer. So this tiny little girl got charged with resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer (since her mother didn't press charges, obviously, she just wanted help finding her daughter) and my cousin ended up being in a juvenile detention facility until she was 15 while her mom tried to fight it.

Children throw fits, sometimes really bad fits. It's not that strange honestly =/ And posting the girl's picture? That's so low I can't even
chaya 7th-Nov-2011 09:00 pm (UTC)
Children throw fits, sometimes really bad fits. It's not that strange honestly =/

It's not that strange, but I think I would disagree that it's a "kid thing" and not something that, when escalating as far as death threats or weapons, needs to be diagnosed/understood and treated. This is not to say that a juvenile detention facility was the right answer for your cousin.
iluvhistory 8th-Nov-2011 01:49 am (UTC)
This girl's life may be completely fucked now when it sounds like she just needs some serious help. Justice system my ass
varhan 8th-Nov-2011 05:50 pm (UTC)
sounds like the kid's parents are a a couple grade A douchebags.........if your 9 years old and seriously trying to harm someone while dropping the F-bomb a dozen times, yea, theres something seriously wrong with your upbringing
chaya 8th-Nov-2011 05:52 pm (UTC)

Are you serious

How many times do I have to go through this?
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