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Atlas Shrugged: Atlas Productions LLC Apologizes to Randians for Grotesque Error.

12:52 pm - 11/13/2011
Randian Fans Advised to Avert their Innocent Eyes from Blasphemous Word to Avoid Retina Damage.

'Atlas Shrugged' DVDs Corrected To Read 'Self-Interest' Instead Of 'Self-Sacrifice'

Ayn Rand's polemical 1957 novel "Atlas Shrugged" deals in her pet beliefs: the strength of a market economy, the value of reason, and above all, stone-cold rational self-interest. Apparently that's a hard tagline to swallow, because whoever wrote DVD title sheets for the miserably-reviewed "Atlas Shrugged Part 1," called the source material, "Ayn Rand's timeless novel of courage and self-sacrifice." In an unintentionally hilarious press release on the movie's official blog, Atlas Productions LLC execs apologize for the error with a series of frameworthy quotes:

From CEO Harmon Kaslow:

"As we all well know, the ideas brought to life in Atlas Shrugged are entirely antithetical to the idea of 'self-sacrifice' as a virtue. Atlas is quite literally a story about the dangers of self-sacrifice. The error was an unfortunate one and fans of Ayn Rand and Atlas have every right to be upset."

And more, from Communications Director Scott DeSapio:

"It's embarrassing for sure and of course, regardless of how or why it happened, we're all feeling responsible right now. You can imagine how mortified we all were when we saw the DVD but, it was simply too late - the product was already on shelves all over the Country. It was certainly no surprise when the incredulous emails ensued. The irony is inescapable."

The company has set up a page for angry objectivists to order a free corrected title sheet, which now reads: "Ayn Rand's timeless novel of rational self-interest comes to life..." The generous offer strikes us as distinctly un-Randian.

(Gothamist via Gawker)
jamethiel_bane 13th-Nov-2011 11:52 pm (UTC)

On the plus side? Atlas Shrugged has given me an absolute gold standard for instantly evaluating people. If anyone reacts to that piece of shite with admiration or attempts to emulate it, I know to AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE. Society doesn't work if everyone is a monumental self-involved arsehole.

(One of the best things I have ever seen was a 2nd year uni student who argued pro-sexual slavery and objectification of women based on Randian philosophy. EVERY SINGLE STUDENT (most of whom were women) in that class proceeded to then avoid him. In group work, everyone shunned him. When he complained about it, the Lecturer just pointed out that as someone who advocated ideas like that, everyone who shunned him was just acting in their own self-interests. The women because such ideas were actively harmful to them, and the men because, aside from notions of common decency, the women would decide to shun them as well if they were seen to be supporting him. He didn't have a comeback. IT WAS GREAT.)
seasight 14th-Nov-2011 12:18 am (UTC)
celtic_thistle 14th-Nov-2011 03:26 am (UTC)
astridmyrna 14th-Nov-2011 12:24 am (UTC)
Your teacher deserves, like, a billion internets.
jamethiel_bane 14th-Nov-2011 12:34 am (UTC)
I know, right? It got really messy after that--the student who was being shunned escalated it because we were infringing on his right to an environment conducive to learning, and we (about a third of the women in the class) escalated it right back to him and talked about creating a sexually aggressive and hostile environment. The Lecturer supported us.

(There is more to this story. The Randism wasn't the only thing he did, there was constant... you know, he'd only ever stare at your tits and he was really, really creepy with the personal space and inappropriate touching. I think he had some problems, although he was really smart, but unfortunately all I could do was tell him when he was being problematic. The argument of "You are MAKING ME FEEL UNSAFE/BEING CREEPY" didn't seem to penetrate. He just didn't seem to care. I don't think his problems should require that I feel/be unsafe.)
astridmyrna 14th-Nov-2011 12:43 am (UTC)
Yeeeeewwwwwwwww. Gross. Hope you didn't have to see him again! But yeah, you don't be a creepy douche and not expect flack for it.
chaya 14th-Nov-2011 01:05 am (UTC)
we were infringing on his right to an environment conducive to learning

crossfire 14th-Nov-2011 05:59 pm (UTC)
$5 says this dude still doesn't understand what happened and uses it every time he can as an example of how he's ~oppressed because of his ~radical beliefs.
nicosian 14th-Nov-2011 12:26 am (UTC)
this times a million. I had an ex who was a huge Rand fanboy. catch was, he was lazy as all get out and gleefully mooched off the work of everyone, skipped on paying child support, lived at home in his parents basements, and basically we had to do some vaguely maybe almost kind of verging on illegal means to get him to pay up the cash he owed my husband and I.

I really cannot see a randist generally as anything but a great sucking leech off the backsides of society whilst proclaiming how enlightened he was and how entitled he was to do whatever he wanted, however, and whenever.

Last I heard, he'd moved back to mom's basement and still skipping on the child support. WHAT A WINNER. He was all "it could have been you carrying my child." Oh, doofus, no, it couldn't, not ever. No.

He had some really archaic notions about women, too. eegads. So randist? I back away. I run. ( maybe there's some moderates, but in my head, they're all this guy.)
astridmyrna TW mentioning of rape, abusive relationship, and near-suicide in one of Rand's books14th-Nov-2011 12:39 am (UTC)
He had some really archaic notions about women, too.
That comes with being a Randist. If you ever read The Fountainhead (don't), the main heroine Dominique has all sorts of men at her beck and call but is a miserable human being (to put it simply) until she meets Roark, the main character and basically goes head over heels for the guy. Anyway, she invited him over to fix the marble on her fireplace, he fixes it, and later on he breaks into her house and rapes her....kind of. The language of the book suggests that she wanted it. It's disgusting. Then later on she tries to "break" him by trying to ruin his dreams as an architect, but somehow near the end she agrees to help him blow up one of his buildings so he isn't suspected of destroying it and almost kills herself doing so. Then the book ends with her all happy because she gets to marry Roark for all her hard work.

TL:DR: The idea of women as sex slaves who like abusive, manipulative relationships goes hand-in-hand with Randian philosophy in her books.
jamethiel_bane 14th-Nov-2011 12:45 am (UTC)
in my head, they're all this guy

I got into a huge fight on Twitter with someone who was all "But selfishness is a good thing" and then tried to argue with me about the dictionary definition which in just about every dictionary I've ever read says "Without regard to others".

It's possible that there are Randists (other than fourteen year olds, who hopefully will be socialised out of it) who aren't self-absorbed arseholes, but I can honestly say I've never met one.
jamethiel_bane 14th-Nov-2011 12:39 am (UTC)
The best thing is? The guys were all "Yeah, no, we're doing this because he is an ARSEHOLE and you don't say that treating people like this is ok." and the lecturer was all "Yes, I know, but I'm trying to put it in terms he will understand."
curseangel 14th-Nov-2011 12:44 am (UTC)
Your lecturer is awesome. Awesome. And so is your class - I know way, way too many college assholes who wouldn't bother to shun or shame someone like that.

And seriously, agreed -- anyone who tells me they like Ayn Rand and/or are a Randian? I stay away like being near them would kill me. :|
jamethiel_bane 14th-Nov-2011 01:05 am (UTC)
Danny, one of the other guys in the class was nice but clueless. He stared down my top one day and I gave him HELL for it, for about three hours. After three hours of argument, I said "Look at it this way. You're doing something that Adam (creepy guy) would do."

He immediately got this expression of absolute horror on his face, instantly apologised and said "I'M SO SORRY, I'VE BEEN SO WRONG."

(I adopted him as my little brother. Fourteen years later, we're still friends/adopted family.)
amyura 14th-Nov-2011 01:36 am (UTC)
That is so awesome.
thelilyqueen 14th-Nov-2011 01:39 am (UTC)
I've certainly found that most Randians don't *really* want everyone to act in their own self-interest. They want everyone to act in their interest, as they are clearly (or, it should be clearly) one of Rand's Superior People.
jamethiel_bane 14th-Nov-2011 01:51 am (UTC)
Yep. They can't see that such a rigid focus on their own self-interest means that people will judge them accordingly, and that people are capable of seeing things as being "for the greater good" and acting on that.

(Like, taxes. Yes, it'd be nice if I didn't have to pay them, but I want roads and schools and hospitals, even if I only use one out of the three. And also, welfare benefits. I may not use them, but by zog I want them there for me if I need them, so I'm happy to pay tax even if it's not towards my immediate self-interest)
yamamanama 14th-Nov-2011 02:09 am (UTC)
Are there people out there who are fans of Ayn Rand for reasons outside the fact that she affirms their right, nay, duty to be a self-involved asshole?

Somehow I doubt it. Her characters are more like caricatures of cartoons drawn by a kid who is stupid and her writing style makes me think she was paid by the word. And even when she has a decent metaphor, she ruins it with her syntax and by piling shit on it until it's as bad as everything else in the book. I'm a much better writer than she is. And my characters' names don't sound like someone vomiting and coughing at the same time.

...Roark. What the hell is that? Roark. Roark. Roark.
theguindo 14th-Nov-2011 02:24 am (UTC)
I legitimately enjoyed the story Atlas Shrugged was trying to tell... 8(a I just accepted it as dystopian fiction and ignored all the author tract speeches peppered throughout.

and also John Galt. Ignored the FUCK outta that guy.

I enjoyed Anthem too ajkgd so I guess I'm like...half a Rand fan?? idk. I never read The Fountainhead tho.
mswyrr 14th-Nov-2011 12:25 pm (UTC)
When he complained about it, the Lecturer just pointed out that as someone who advocated ideas like that, everyone who shunned him was just acting in their own self-interests. The women because such ideas were actively harmful to them, and the men because, aside from notions of common decency, the women would decide to shun them as well if they were seen to be supporting him. He didn't have a comeback. IT WAS GREAT.

bonoffee 14th-Nov-2011 01:35 pm (UTC)
I'm a bit concerned because my boyfriend told me he likes The Fountainhead, and I already had heard bits about it from being online, and was a bit like "...really?" I haven't taken him to task about it yet though because I haven't read it myself and I feel I'd have no real means of attack. The thing is he's really lovely and I've never got a hint of him thinking women are objects or anything... but who knows? I'm worried, haha.

Maybe I should find a free copy of the book and try to read it, see if I can make sense of it. sigh.

PS your lecturer sounds amazing!
jamethiel_bane 14th-Nov-2011 07:52 pm (UTC)

silmaril 14th-Nov-2011 04:25 pm (UTC)
When he complained about it, the Lecturer just pointed out that as someone who advocated ideas like that, everyone who shunned him was just acting in their own self-interests.

And that's where I could not hold in the laughter any more and startled my labmate. Thanks for that Monday-morning-bright-spot.
jamethiel_bane 14th-Nov-2011 11:32 pm (UTC)
:D I cannot tell a lie, fourteen years later this still makes me squeak and flail. Needless to say, approximately 3/4 of the people in this class became devotees of Peter (lecturer) immediately. We had a cake roster and would bring him baked goods every Friday. He'd share them with the class.
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