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'Occupy Oakland' Hosts Gay Porn Video Shoot

1:34 pm - 11/27/2011
First Posted: 11/23/11 05:10 PM ET Updated: 11/23/11 05:32 PM ET

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An adult film company is capitalizing on the heat of the U.S. anti-establishment protests by using a tent in the middle of the "Occupy Oakland" encampment as the setting for a new gay porn flick.

Billed by The New York Observer as a "homoerotic caper through the tents of Oakland's Occupation," Dirty Boy Video's "Occupy My Throat" is likely to have been inspired by Brandon Watts, an original member of the Wall Street occupation who lost his virginity in Zuccotti Park before being arrested after a gruesome standoff with the police. Dirty Boy Video president Andy Fair reportedly contacted the 20-year-old Watts, whose experience was apparently noted in a New York Times magazine feature, and offered the protester cash for the chance to tape his next experience.

"I offer you the opportunity to perform on our website, an opportunity to express yourself and your politics freely and without censor. Working together we can create a sexy, fun platform that inspires you, be that with other actors, actresses or both. Whether you choose to work with us or not, I salute your dedication and your courage," Fair wrote in his letter to Watts, according to CBS San Francisco.

Watts does not appear in "Occupy My Throat," which was reportedly filmed in the middle of the Occupy Oakland encampment at Frank Ogawa Plaza. The film's tagline reportedly reads as follows: "Police can ban the erection of tents at Occupy Wall Street, but they can't keep us from pitching a tent in our pants!"

Though the overall, ahem, merits of "Occupy My Throat" remain to be seen, some bloggers are greeting the release enthusiastically. "Many might find this perverted and/or an unnecessary distraction from the important issues of the day," writes LeFag. "We feel like this video could be a nice historical document in years to come, should the movement prove more than a flash in the pan."

You can view the NSFW trailer here [only if you're subscribed to the site, it looks like].

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I can't.
mariechan 28th-Nov-2011 02:12 am (UTC)
I don't think I need to confirm my sexuality to examine bigotry. I also was more analyzing the disgust of porn. It's sort of like how some people are called homophobic for disliking yaoi despite it's stereotyping of gay men, or lesbian porn that focuses on catering more to a male audience than anything else. I think you can express a lot of gripes with all sorts of porn since it delves into stereotypes and sexism, and hey, I'm a woman so shouldn't I get to have some gripes with porn?

Also I don't see why people are so hostile about outsiders entering conversations in a public community. Am I not allowed to comment on ONTD? It feels like high school all over again where I just want to discuss stuff and I'm excluded for not being the right type.

Sorry I even bothered :/
softxasxsilence 28th-Nov-2011 02:20 am (UTC)
you need to confirm your sexuality to have a major say in whether something is/isn't homophobia in a conversation with people who are lgb, and especially in a conversation where only lgb people are talking to each other. because the experience of homophobia is what enables us to figure these things out in ways that people who don't can't do as well.

you can comment in ontd (and ontd_p for that matter) as well; the point is that in this one particular thread, your input bothered some people. this thread wasn't about misogyny in porn. if you would like to talk about that, start another thread.

people are hostile because straight people often come into conversations like this and hand down their opinions like they matter, trampling all over the discussion lgb people were having before they showed up. it's common and aggravating and we get sick of it, so we get hostile.
softxasxsilence 28th-Nov-2011 03:02 am (UTC)
your moms don't cancel out your straight privilege or the pesky little part where you have not lived as a queer/lgb person in a homophobic society

if you were as qualified to recognize homophobia, you might have recognized the homophobic sentiment in your comment that somehow your moms' gayness rubbed off on you (or the homophobia inherent in your sense of entitlement to a voice in discussions concerning and/or between queer/lgb people) :)
nekokonneko 28th-Nov-2011 03:18 am (UTC)
Being bullied by homophbes for your relation to queer people doesn't mean you can speak on homophobia as if you actually are queer.
softxasxsilence ^^TW: homophobic bullying, violence, slurs^^28th-Nov-2011 03:19 am (UTC)
i'm very sorry those things happened to you and your family. however, none of that cancels the straight privilege you reap for being hetero in a society that systematically and institutionally rewards straightness and punishes all else.

you were a victim of homophobic bullying. but you are no more qualified to enter discussions concerning and/or between queer/lgb people than a straight girl who was homophobically bullied because she didn't look straight enough to someone.

also, it's p homophobic to tell a lesbian not to dare telling you what aspects of her oppression you're qualified to have an opinion equal to hers on.

and try to include a trigger warning next time you decide to graphically describe homophobic bullying and violence and to whip out homophobic slurs (which btw is not okay of you)
softxasxsilence snitchster's 2nd deleted comment: tw homophobic bullying, violence, uncensored slur28th-Nov-2011 03:31 am (UTC)
anolinde Re: snitchster's 2nd deleted comment: tw homophobic bullying, violence, uncensored slur28th-Nov-2011 04:57 am (UTC)
Um, just saying... maybe they deleted their comment because they realized they were uncomfortable sharing such a personal story, and they let one of the mods know about it on the mod post page?
redstar826 Re: snitchster's 2nd deleted comment: tw homophobic bullying, violence, uncensored slur28th-Nov-2011 05:01 am (UTC)
seeing as how a mod banned her on page 2, I doubt that happened
anolinde Re: snitchster's 2nd deleted comment: tw homophobic bullying, violence, uncensored slur28th-Nov-2011 05:06 am (UTC)
Ah, didn't notice that.
mariechan Re: snitchster's 2nd deleted comment: tw homophobic bullying, violence, uncensored slur28th-Nov-2011 01:14 pm (UTC)
In a PM I think I recall they said they deleted it because people were offended and such (since they were asking for a trigger warning). I may double check, though.
nekokonneko Re: snitchster's 2nd deleted comment: tw homophobic bullying, violence, uncensored slur29th-Nov-2011 03:30 am (UTC)
That still wouldn't explain why she deleted her first comment
paulnolan 28th-Nov-2011 03:03 am (UTC)
You don't. You have insight thanks to your parents, but your viewpoint is still an external and privileged one.
softxasxsilence snitchster's 1st deleted comment28th-Nov-2011 03:30 am (UTC)
zombieroadtrip Re: snitchster's 1st deleted comment28th-Nov-2011 05:30 am (UTC)
Thanks for saving these

Also, wow
interrobamf 28th-Nov-2011 03:48 am (UTC)
ty for this and posting snitchster's comments.
mariechan 28th-Nov-2011 02:46 pm (UTC)
"this thread wasn't about misogyny in porn. if you would like to talk about that, start another thread."

Wouldn't my making the comment be in effect making a thread on livejournal which could then make the discussion? Or should I just have put it as a comment to the main article? I thought it was relevant to discuss, it seemed like a normal comment to me. Some people have hindrances when it comes to conversation, some people can't really understand the right way to be part of a conversation or to carry it. But I try anyways because I like conversation and I didn't expect what I was saying to be that far off track. Yes, I got chatty, but I felt my conduct was normal.

When you opened your conversation with me by saying "are you str8" I was expecting some level of sarcasm and at worst that you were trying to open me up for trolling. I didn't want to have to bring my sexuality to the table and explain myself because I thought you guys were going to bully me and I often grew up being bullied by exclusion and I feel like it's sort of ruined me. It probably would have been better if you explained why you were hostile but maybe I should have explained why I was apprehensive because I was expecting more of a "cool story bro" if I was to explain myself than something meaningful. I still feel like things were handled badly on both sides because I am justified in being apprehensive while you are justified in being hostile but it doesn't really help either side of the conversation.

I still don't want to talk about my sexuality at this point because now I don't feel comfortable about this particular instance. It was clearly obvious I was being judged for my sexuality and sexual confusion and really this was the last place I was expecting to be judged and maybe even bullied with such a backhanded comment as "are you str8." There are reasons why I didn't want to be put under a magnifying glass because I realized the more I say about myself the more I get bullied for it. Yeah, it probably feels redundant by now but at this point I feel justified in not trusting this to be a good situation to examine me. At this point it seems to best thing to do is for me to stay out because I obviously did something wrong, but keep in mind there are better ways to treat those who are a little afraid to talk about themselves.
tnganon 28th-Nov-2011 03:26 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry you're afraid to talk about yourself here, but asking people if they're straight in a conversation about ltbg issues is not bullying.

You are not being judged for your sexuality, you are being judged for stepping into a conversation that really needs to stay between people in the group affected by it.
mariechan 28th-Nov-2011 05:54 pm (UTC)
I didn't think they meant it when they asked if I was "str8." I thought the chatspeak and the phrasing itself was either done to troll bait or patronize me. Why couldn't they have asked normally? Maybe they were typing the comment from a phone but I was just wary from the general treatment.

I just think there are reasons to be apprehensive with the way others were treated. I was asked why I was even here and if I was straight and all I did was talk like I normally do to people. I can understand their reaction but no one seems to understand my reaction, or why I would feel a little off put for commenting in an open conversation, especially when I thought I was making a normal conversation and talking like any person would.

I think I mentioned it does feel like high school where I had faced so much ableism I was pretty much excluded from everything and had no place to be. I felt like I had a place in a lot of online communities, especially here, especially in the LGBTQ community but I guess there's still this unwritten rule that if you can't understand unwritten social rules and stuff then you are pretty much cast out.
interrobamf 28th-Nov-2011 06:26 pm (UTC)
Please stop trying to guilt people with your experiences with ableism. Asking you to recognize your privilege and stay out of queer discussions is not excluding you from commenting in general.
mariechan 28th-Nov-2011 06:32 pm (UTC)
I didn't think those questioning were considered privileged (or in this case assuming I was straight or not LGB). In fact I thought there was a "Q" in the acronym to include the questioning.
interrobamf 28th-Nov-2011 06:57 pm (UTC)
"Questioning" is not a "get out of privilege" card, especially for those in hetero relationships. Like softxasxsilence said, figure out your sexuality before adding your opinions about homophobia.
tnganon 28th-Nov-2011 10:22 pm (UTC)
there is nothing wrong with questioning, but it's also fairly common to have some degree of uncertainty with regards to sexuality. i'm not saying stay out, you're unwelcome, but i am adding my voice to interrobamf's and softxasxsilence in saying that being questioning means you should be careful not to speak over members of the queer community, our lived experience, and our right to discuss the issues that affect us.

in addition, honestly, bringing up your high school bullying in a discussion completely divorced from it really smarts of emotional manipulation. you aren't the only person in this community who was bullied, and you aren't the only person in the community who has faced ableism. i am sorry this conversation is bringing up bad memories, but that has nothing to do with us and this conversation.
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