(Bloomberg) -- By Rick Santorum’s own admission, the Concord, New Hampshire, crowd he was addressing probably wasn’t going to be receptive to his conservative view on social issues.
“I’m surprised I got a gay marriage question at a college crowd; really that’s a shock to me,” he joked.
For the most part, his audience was booing, not laughing.
The issue sparked what was, at several points over the course of an almost hour-long question and answer session, a contentious back and forth between Santorum and New Hampshire college students on social issues.
“Well what about three men?,” Santorum responded to a female student who asked him about his position on gay marriage. “If reason says that if you think it’s OK for two, then you have to differentiate with me as to why it’s not okay for three.”
Santorum initially welcomed the exchanges with several students. Then he tried to move on to other subjects as the audience interrupted and cheered the questioners rather than the candidate. The former Pennsylvania senator said he welcomed the state’s legalization of same-sex marriage because it was decided by the legislature.
Defending Marriage
Still, he defended his position to keep marriage a union between a man and a woman: “Because I believe we are made the way God made man and woman and man and woman come together to have a union to produce children which keeps civilization going and provide the best environment for children to be raised,” Santorum said. “I think that is something society should value and should give privileged status over a group of people who want to have a relationship together.”
The reception was an anomaly of sorts for Santorum, who arrived in New Hampshire last night to large and receptive crowds fresh off his second-place finish in the Iowa caucuses.
At his other events today, Santorum connected with his audiences, focusing on his economic prescriptions and his personal narrative of coming from a Catholic, working-class family with immigrant grandparents. So, it seemed an odd choice to address a crowd of students speaking about American exceptionalism and focusing on conservative social values.
Medical Marijuana
About 40 minutes into the questions, the audience clapped when another student asked Santorum whether, as president, he would allow state gay marriage and medical marijuana laws to operate without federal government interference.
“I don’t believe that we can have 50 definitions of marriage,” Santorum said. “Just to say that we should have 50 definitions of what life is. I don’t think that works either. I think there are certain things that are essential elements of society upon which society rests that we have to have a consensus.”
Pressed on his stance on medical marijuana, Santorum mistakenly identified the drug as a narcotic before being corrected by the audience.
“I don’t know my medical marijuana laws very well,” he joked. Still, he called the drug a hazard to society, and when someone shouted a question asking him how he formed that opinion, Santorum said: “I form that opinion from my own life experiences and having experiences, I went to college, too.”
The reference to what he may or may not have done during his days at Pennsylvania State University didn’t quell the majority of those in the audience, whose boos trumped any applause Santorum received at the end.
The New York Times describes the incident:
The testiest part of the exchange came when an audience member suggested that gay people should be allowed to marry because they have a right to happiness.
In response, Mr. Santorum asked whether she thought that more than two people should be allowed to marry, apparently trying to suggest that the questioner was advocating an extreme position.
"If you're not happy unless you're married to five other people, is that OK?" he asked.
That angered the audience, which booed his answer.
"I'm happy to engage in a discussion," he continued, saying that he wanted to "give people a chance to answer, but we're going to have a civil discussion."
The woman who had asked the first question then persisted, saying that the question about bigamy was "irrelevant."
"In my personal opinion, go for it," she said. "But when two men want to marry ..."
Mr. Santorum interrupted, "What about three men?"
"That's not what I'm talking about," the woman said to Mr. Santorum, who spent close to an hour and a half before the crowd.
The session ended with many of the students booing Mr. Santorum as he left for his next event.
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everything he says is just bullshit. GO AWAY.
what if i don't have a problem with three men being in a relationship?
what now, santorum. what now.
oh ffs, how does he really validate his logic. he's such an idiot.
1. Straight unions sometimes produce gay children
2. Our current president is the product of a (largely) single parent household, fuck you very much.
3. "...should value and should give privileged status over a group of people who want to have a relationship together." How are you actually that stupid? idek
“I don’t believe that we can have 50 definitions of marriage"
lol leave it to the states until the states all decide something different oh fuck.
Just to say that we should have 50 definitions of what life is. I don’t think that works either. I think there are certain things that are essential elements of society upon which society rests that we have to have a consensus.”
I think we have a majority consensus that you are dumbass, tbh.
assfuckassfroth.ftfy
What is with this guy? If he cares so much about government interference in our lives, why does he keep interfering in our lives?!
As long as it's straight love, that is.
Edited at 2012-01-06 04:33 am (UTC)
"No, no! It's totally cool you guys decided to legalize same sex marriage. Even if it is an abomination. But that is the states' right to decide! But, uh, yeah... When I'm president I'm going to call for a federal mandate invalidating same sex marriages. Because it's okay for the states to make their own laws, but only so long as everyone agrees to make legislation universal. And the law conforms to what I believe is right. You see where I'm going with this? WHOO! VOTE FOR RICK SANTORUM!"
Just go away, Santorum. Really. And good for you NH students!
I had to stop at the point where he insinuates that gay marriage is directly harmful to other people.
And then, like, you remember that he's running for high office. Besides the obvious bigotry, the very manner in which he carries himself -- "I'M A FUCKING ASSHOLE; DONT VOTE FOR ME".
And then on top of all that, cannot get over him -- of all people -- condescendingly talking about "employing reason". What a shithead.
Edited at 2012-01-06 06:31 am (UTC)
Group marriage or at least a group living situation with most of the benefits of marriage is really looking like a good idea, all things told.
LOL, some of them think "santorum" is a real word and Slick just happens to have it as a last name.
See now, sir, that's where you messed up. You don't get to make your very personal, very religious views laws. "Freedom of religion" not only means that you get to worship what you want how you want, it also means that the government can't endorse your views. Sorry, bb. Except not sorry at all, 'cause you sound like a very privileged cis-gendered heterosexual.
And FYI, bringing God to the conversation doesn't always work. We're not all Christians/believers/religious!
And that, he would say, is the problem.
Fuck this guy.
Edited at 2012-01-06 05:12 pm (UTC)
Thanks for sharing. :)