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Almost half of Mormons believe they are more discriminated against than African Americans, poll reveals

A third of Mormons in the US believe voters are not ready to elect Mitt Romney, or any other member of their church, as president.

A survey of members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) published on Thursday found that almost half of Mormons in the US consider themselves more discriminated against than African Americans.

Research by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found suspicion spills over to political life, with 32% of Mormons believing Romney'sreligion will count against him in a presidential election. Slightly more than half say US voters will accept a Mormon in the White House.

Although 97% of Mormons regard themselves as Christian, many Americans do not because of the church's origins and some of its practices, including a belief that its present leader is a prophet from God.

Pew said it undertook the research because of heightened awareness of the LDS church in American life even though Mormons make up only 2% of the US population.

"With a Mormon candidate among the frontrunners for the 2012 [Republican] presidential nomination, a musical about Mormons playing on Broadway and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints running television ads about ordinary Mormons, America is in the midst of what some media accounts have dubbed a 'Mormon moment'," the report said.

"Many Mormons feel they are misunderstood, discriminated against and not accepted by other Americans as part of mainstream society. Yet, at the same time, a majority of Mormons think that acceptance of Mormonism is rising."

According to the Pew Forum survey, 46% of Mormons say there is "a lot of discrimination in the US" against them. Just 31% say there is a similar level of discrimination against black people.

About two in three Mormons say Americans "do not see Mormonism as part of mainstream American society". Those findings mirror a Pew survey in November that showed that a third of Americans say members of the LDS church are not Christians. Many others are undecided. Mormonism was mostly described as a cult.


Mormons believe that in 1823 the LDS movement's founder, Joseph Smith, was directed by an angel to a sacred text on golden plates buried in a stone box near his house in upstate New York. Smith claimed the text was in "reformed Egyptian" and that he translated it using a seer stone. The result was the Book of Mormon, a central text of the religion.

The LDS church has also long been equated with polygamy, even though it banned the practice in 1890. Today, only 2% of Mormons say having multiple wives is morally acceptable, although 11% say it is not a moral issue.

Half of US Mormons are also different from vast numbers of Americans in not drinking coffee and regarding alcohol as "morally problematic".

Rejection of Mormonism as a Christian religion rises sharply among Christian evangelicals, with implications for Romney as he seeks the Republican nomination. More than half of evangelical Protestants, who make up a sizeable proportion of Republican primary voters in some states, say that Mormonism is not Christian and 15% said it would make them less likely to vote for Romney. However, they still preferred him to Barack Obama.

Last year, a pastor close to a rival Republican candidate, Rick Perry, said that Romney was "not a Christian" and called the LDS church a cult. Romney responded by saying: "The great majority of Americans understand that this nation was founded on the principle of religious tolerance and liberty. Most people do not make their decision based on someone's faith."

Over recent years, Romney has sidestepped questions as to the level of his commitment to the LDS church. He has said his faith is as "American as motherhood and apple pie" and said he "believes in family, believes in Jesus Christ". Critics have accused him of being evasive about his beliefs.

The latest survey confirms that the bulk of Mormons lean sharply to the right in politics. Two-thirds said they regarded themselves as conservative and three-quarters said they supported the Republican party over the Democrats.

That conservatism is reflected in levels of support for Mormons in high office, or seeking it. Nearly nine out of ten Mormons support Romney's bid for president whereas only half back Jon Huntsman, a more moderate Republican candidate who is also a Mormon.

The survey suggests Mormons are deeply religious with eight out of 10 saying the church is very important in their lives and that they pray every day. A similar number donate one-tenth of their earnings to the church.

Nearly half of Mormon men have served as missionaries. That includes Romney, who worked as a missionary in France.

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shellazure 14th-Jan-2012 11:21 pm (UTC)
O_O
kaisenji 15th-Jan-2012 05:42 pm (UTC)
My face as well before it became this: :L
ew_younerd 14th-Jan-2012 11:23 pm (UTC)
Almost half of everyone who is not rly oppressed believe they are more discriminated against than African-Americans. Seriously at this point I think anti-blackness just needs to be talked about in regards to the US as much as "racism" does on a general inclusive scale.
temperance_k 15th-Jan-2012 12:08 am (UTC)
I once had an anthropology book that said that, at least in the US, it's really one in the same. While other countries (such as South America) may see race with more nuance, in the U.S., the main concept is really white vs. not-white/black (as opposed to say the concept of mestizo, mulatto, etc. elsewhere with different and, some would argue, more ~complex~ nuances).

While I don't agree completely, it's one way to simplify why racism against black people is the American default, both in occurrence and in thought processes.
mentalguru 14th-Jan-2012 11:25 pm (UTC)
-Looks at title-

Oh good grief.
one_wicked_girl 14th-Jan-2012 11:25 pm (UTC)
I laughed out loud for real.
pluckygirl 15th-Jan-2012 02:10 pm (UTC)
I like this. Will continue to watch for the next two minutes. Bravo. :D
executivehpfan 14th-Jan-2012 11:30 pm (UTC)
Oh please. I'm so sick of these contrived prejudices against Christian denominations.
wonky 14th-Jan-2012 11:32 pm (UTC)
lol yeah I recently moved back to AZ and there are billboards and commercials everywhereeeeee with their stupid "I'm a Mormon" campaign. Every time my mom sees it she gets so angry, hahaha.
adirtylollipop 15th-Jan-2012 12:03 am (UTC)
We have those here, too. I really don't fucking get it. It's just pictures of random people with the text "I'm a Mormon." Like.... okay? Good for you?
angry_chick 14th-Jan-2012 11:32 pm (UTC)
I wish there was a way to make people really truly see what discrimination against black people is like, and make it mandatory.
executivehpfan 15th-Jan-2012 12:08 am (UTC)
"A Week As a Minority: A Crash Course For Privileged Fucks Who Think They Have It Hard".
nothingmuch 14th-Jan-2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
Well of course they do. SMH

Edited at 2012-01-14 11:33 pm (UTC)
bmh4d0k3n 14th-Jan-2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
popehippo 14th-Jan-2012 11:45 pm (UTC)
Considering that I never actually met a black person while living in Utah until I was 20, this doesn't surprise me in the least.

Although 97% of Mormons regard themselves as Christian, many Americans do not because of the church's origins and some of its practices, including a belief that its present leader is a prophet from God.

I always get confused on this too, tbh, I hear from both sides that they're Christian as Christian gets versus being so far from Christians that they're one virgin sacrifice away from Satanists.
sesmo 15th-Jan-2012 07:01 am (UTC)
Mormons believe the people of the Book of Mormon lived in the western hemisphere, that Christ appeared in the western hemisphere after his death and resurrection, that the true faith was restored in upstate New York by Joseph Smith, and that the Garden of Eden and location of Christ's second coming were and will be in the state of Missouri.

So yeah, I can see why mainline Christians might have a bit of trouble with this....
captain_emily 15th-Jan-2012 12:09 am (UTC)
People don't want to elect Romney because he's a douchebag, not because he's Mormon. While a few bigots might discriminate against Mormons, these are the same people that discriminate against black people, Latin@s, Jews, Muslims, homosexuals, and everyone who isn't a WASP.

And no, jokes about "magic underwear" are not discrimination.
lux_roark 15th-Jan-2012 12:16 am (UTC)
Um, I never considered myself being discriminated against anything. Plus, the church didn't allow African-American men to hold the priesthood until 1978.

I've since left the church though, my politics lean way to the left and yeah, not really accepted in the church. Especially since I live in California and they were telling us in sacrament meetings and Relief Society to vote yes on Prop 8.
redstar826 15th-Jan-2012 12:21 am (UTC)
Yeah, in my experience, a lot of evangelical Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christians. But while I am sure that is annoying, that obviously isn't the same thing as racism
lomesir22 15th-Jan-2012 02:44 pm (UTC)
Psh, people in the EC don't consider any non-evangelical Christians to be "real" Christians.
militsa 15th-Jan-2012 01:42 am (UTC)
He has said his faith is as "American as motherhood and apple pie"

Well he's right there; Mormonism was founded in the U.S. and if I have my facts right considers the U.S. "holy land" -- it's way more "American" than Santorum's hard-core Roman Catholicism.

What the freaking hell does "American as motherhood" even mean? I know he's referring to the ridiculous "Mom and apple pie" crap, but "Motherhood"...that happens kind of all over the planet.
bees_beads 15th-Jan-2012 02:10 am (UTC)
Maybe he meant Republican Motherhood?
gretchystretchy 15th-Jan-2012 01:52 am (UTC)
bawwwwww
homasse 15th-Jan-2012 02:14 am (UTC)
niagarawoman 15th-Jan-2012 03:11 am (UTC)
LMAO at the accuracy of this gif
dryope 15th-Jan-2012 02:34 am (UTC)
If nothing else, you got to admire the chuzpe of any church, that finances campaigns against marriage equality, only allows males into office or heaven for that matter and insist those craycray polygamist have no right to call themselves Mormons, but still cries "discrimination", when it turns out Christianity overall would rather not be associated with their schtick. I can't with that disconnect, even though I could not care any less what they wanna call themselves.
jwaneeta 15th-Jan-2012 02:36 am (UTC)
Ugh.
sixdemonhag 15th-Jan-2012 02:43 am (UTC)
Show me a group that DOESN'T love to moan about how they have it so much worse than every other group.
erunamiryene 15th-Jan-2012 03:08 am (UTC)
Christians feel persecuted. Day ending in Y, bear shits in woods, news at 11.
lomesir22 15th-Jan-2012 02:49 pm (UTC)
I think I accidentally ended a friendship with one of my more hardcore Christian friends when I told him that I don't feel persecuted for being a Christian.

"But don't you feel that you're being judged for saying you're a Christian?"

"Sometimes. But what does that have to do with persecution?"

"But, but, it IS persecution!"

"No."

SMH

We both grew up in the Evangelical movement, and evangelicals are told from birth that Christians are being persecuted all over the world, but especially in the USA. I was in college before I realized that something wasn't matching up. I have since left the movement.
chaya 15th-Jan-2012 03:21 am (UTC)
My bf's slightly tipsy reaction to the title:

"No. No. ....maybe black Mormons. Blormons."
bushy_brow 15th-Jan-2012 03:54 am (UTC)
LMAO!

No, Blahmormons. Get it right!
evilgmbethy 15th-Jan-2012 03:35 am (UTC)
Considering the Mormon church's former doctrine regarding black people, I'm thinking the Mormons need to just hold in their opinions about black people altogether tbh.
bowtomecha 15th-Jan-2012 04:03 am (UTC)
"The great majority of Americans understand that this nation was founded on the principle of religious tolerance and liberty. Most people do not make their decision based on someone's faith."

Ah.
ohmiya_sg 15th-Jan-2012 04:17 am (UTC)
ikr?
amyura 15th-Jan-2012 04:08 am (UTC)
LOL no. When Mormons can come back with random controlled studies showing that jobs are offered far less frequently to people with "Mormon-sounding" names, then we can talk. When Mormons can prove that they get pulled over for driving while Mormon, or followed in stores, or passed over for promotions, or accused of being affirmative action hires, then we can talk.

I won't be voting for Romney because his positions are too conservative for me. Were there a Mormon running for president who was pro-choice, in favor of fair tax levels for businesses and the ultra-rich, in favor of increased environmental regulations, and committed to repealing DOMA, I'd vote for him or her in a heartbeat.
bellonia 15th-Jan-2012 05:57 pm (UTC)
The only argument I could see if I looked at it sideways and inside out is the passed over due to their names, but that's classism, imo. A lot of the Mormon naming traditions are ones associated, where I'm from, with poor people.
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