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Evangelicals are -not- a judgmental people....*giggle snort*

10:46 am - 01/20/2012
Tony Perkins: Social Conservatives Are ‘Not Judgmental’

The Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins appeared on MSNBC this morning to discuss last night’s GOP presidential debate and the recent revelations that Newt Gingrich allegedly asked his second wife for an open marriage.

The conservative leader — who regularly condemns gay people, “churns out brochures that compare same-sex marriages to those bonds which might exist between a man and a horse,” likens gays to terrorists, calls LGBT rights a battle of “good versus evil,” and claims gay teens kill themselves because they know that they’re “abnormal” — expressed concern about Gingrich’s personal past, but also raised questions about the wisdom of asking about his marriage during the debate. Ultimately, he suggested that Evangelical Christians are “not judgmental” and understanding, and could embrace a candidate who has sinned:

PERKINS: More than anybody, Evangelicals understand the story of Redemption, that people make mistakes and there can be a turning point. The tension becomes — have we reached that turning point on these issues and were they mistakes, were they character flaws that remain….People don’t want to be seen as that judgmental, because they’re not judgmental, but at the same time, they’re having some serious questions about the character of the candidate.



The hypocrisy between Gingrich’s private life and his public policies is staggering. The former House speaker describes same-sex relationships as a “temporary aberration” and promises to “support sending a federal constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman to the states for ratification.” All the while he has been married to three different women and has cheated on at least two of them. Yet for “not judgmental” conservatives like Perkins, this kind of behavior is far more acceptable than allowing for the recognition of monogamous same-sex relationships or even the very existence of gay people.

Yeah, Evangelicals are not judgmental...to cis-gendered, straight, Christian males you know, the ones who make up the lion-share of the social-conservative movement.

Source: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/01/20/407731/tony-perkins-social-conservatives-are-not-judgmental/
the_gabih 20th-Jan-2012 04:15 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure whether to laugh, rage or cry.
mollywobbles867 20th-Jan-2012 04:15 pm (UTC)
layweed 20th-Jan-2012 04:18 pm (UTC)
You ain't foolin' nobody.
redstar826 20th-Jan-2012 04:20 pm (UTC)
In before "but not all Christians are like that!!"
violetrose 20th-Jan-2012 04:35 pm (UTC)
Oh, you know it's gonna happen.
sankaku_atama 20th-Jan-2012 05:22 pm (UTC)
BUT NOT ALL CHRISTIA-

Oh, dammit.
astridmyrna 20th-Jan-2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
And in before "these aren't true Christians." Just like there are no true Scotsmen! :D
sparkindarkness 21st-Jan-2012 01:03 pm (UTC)
oh i hope they do, i have a large fish and a bad temper and I need to work some of it off
rosicrucian 20th-Jan-2012 04:25 pm (UTC)
and claims gay teens kill themselves because they know that they’re “abnormal”

Protip: experience this firsthand, come back to me if you still fucking feel this way.
mentalguru 20th-Jan-2012 04:27 pm (UTC)
Um... when you're either a hypocrite or a bigot, I think people have the right to judge you based on that. And this guys BOTH.


luminescnece 20th-Jan-2012 04:34 pm (UTC)
We can support a candidate who has sinned, going against the word of our god, but we can't support candidates who go against what we say our gods word is. Evangelicals, proving once again that their religion is a tool to justify fear, small minds and hatred.
keeperofthekeys 20th-Jan-2012 04:35 pm (UTC)
Mika looks like she's squinting pretty good at these people in the video preview.
violetrose 20th-Jan-2012 04:50 pm (UTC)
claims gay teens kill themselves because they know that they’re “abnormal”

Oh, fuck you.

The reason gay children (and adults) kill themselves is often because of people like you. So shove it.
sephirajo 20th-Jan-2012 05:23 pm (UTC)
Oh, but you see, if they admitted that they might have to *gasp* take responsibility for the shit they say and we can't have that! /sarcasm

So, in short, this.
sankaku_atama 20th-Jan-2012 05:24 pm (UTC)
Any more, whenever someone says the words "social conservative" what I hear is actually "bigoted, hypocritical shitpastry".
celtic_thistle 20th-Jan-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
Oooh, shitpastry. I like it.
wikilobbying 20th-Jan-2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
and could embrace a candidate who has sinned

uh, they don't exactly have a choice but to embrace a candidate who has sinned because ~everyone has sinned~ and all. so, like, if you're giving yourselves pats on the back for that, then i have some bad news for you... you're far more judgmental than you think. which is much more accurate because calling gay/lgbtq+ people "abnormal" is not understanding or non-judgmental. it wouldn't even qualify as christ-like behavior.
pipsdixiechick 21st-Jan-2012 03:41 am (UTC)
THIS!!!!! For me, the 'wolves in sheep's clothing' and the 'bad fruit' The Bible speaks of are these people right here-the apples that spoil it for the whole bunch, if you will. I honestly pray that they will finally look in the mirror and see all of the slivers in their eyes before they attempt to cast any more stones. THEY are the ones ruining Christianity.
blondebeaker 20th-Jan-2012 05:32 pm (UTC)
Photobucket
xerox78 20th-Jan-2012 06:29 pm (UTC)
That macro makes me think of And Tango Makes Three.
astridmyrna 20th-Jan-2012 05:44 pm (UTC)
Oh Joe.

Evangelicals are actually, a lot, not all, a lot of really judgmental jerks. But by and large Evangelicals are far more forgiving and far more understanding sin because that is the center of the face: forgiveness, grace,


an be a turning point. The tension becomes — have we reached that turning point on these issues and were they mistakes, were they character flaws that remain….People don’t want to be seen as that judgmental, because they’re not judgmental,

Where's my big fat bullshit stamp?

Edited for html fail on my part.

Edited at 2012-01-20 05:45 pm (UTC)
mentalguru 20th-Jan-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
I found this one if you've lost yours!





http://www.allmaria.com/dastardly/bullstamp.html
angelus7988 20th-Jan-2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
The thing is, it's actually not hypocrisy. Family values is a dog whistle. Taken literally, yes they're hypocrites. The problem is that when they say "family values," what other evangelicals hear is "Biblical patriarchy where women are meek and submissive and we get to do whatever we want to people who aren't like us."
pipsdixiechick 21st-Jan-2012 03:46 am (UTC)
UGH-the submissive female crap reminded me of Marc Driscoll-who I'm ashamed to say is a huge religious figure in my home state of WA. Did you catch the post ONTD did on him a few days back? Yikes.

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/65839325.html#comments

Edited at 2012-01-21 05:19 am (UTC)
angelus7988 21st-Jan-2012 06:08 am (UTC)
He's disgusting. I avoid the mothership like the plague, but I did read the article you linked.
its_anya 20th-Jan-2012 05:57 pm (UTC)
Cool, and I'm the Queen of Sheba.
mirhanda 20th-Jan-2012 07:24 pm (UTC)
OMG, at first I thought this was about the guy from Psycho!
baka_tenshi 20th-Jan-2012 07:42 pm (UTC)
yeah and i'm a millionaire.
amyura 20th-Jan-2012 10:20 pm (UTC)
Evangelicals as a group are pretty much the most judgmental people out there, Tony. SRY TO SAY.
nikoel 23rd-Jan-2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
I thought they actually prided themselves on judging everyone who is not them. And actually, I'm sure they judge each other too.
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