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STATE OF THE UNION: Let's Get This Party Started

7:09 pm - 01/24/2012

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fishphile 25th-Jan-2012 12:56 am (UTC)
Is The West Wing really that good? A few people I know are like, "WTF?! You like politics that much, but have never watched The West Wing?" I tried awhile back, but never got into it.
executivehpfan 25th-Jan-2012 01:00 am (UTC)
I got my hands on the DVDs last year and I literally watched all seven seasons within a three week time span.

I fell in love with that show. It's smart, it's realistic, the acting is fucking brilliant, the writing is ridiculously good (for the first three or four seasons at least). I will stan for TWW until I die.
fishphile 25th-Jan-2012 01:06 am (UTC)
oooh, okay. I'm going to give it another try.
fickery 25th-Jan-2012 01:01 am (UTC)
It is so very good. It gets uneven in later seasons, and some of Sorkin's writing tics got on my nerves after awhile, but it's still very very worth watching.
fishphile 25th-Jan-2012 01:07 am (UTC)
Thanks for your honesty. I'll try to track down the first seasons in the upcoming months.
pullmystrings 25th-Jan-2012 01:01 am (UTC)
yes tbh
fishphile 25th-Jan-2012 01:09 am (UTC)
Okay. Three yeses sound pretty good. I'll try to check it out again soon.
baked_goldfish 25th-Jan-2012 01:11 am (UTC)
It's lovely. Aaron Sorkin's terribleness with respect to writing women is minimized by the fact that the actors playing his women are amazing, and he had women advising him on various roles that they'd held (like Dee Dee Meyers) so it wasn't quite as bad as some of his other stuff on that point.

Some people don't like the dialogue, but I love it. If you can watch the opening scene of the opening episode and you don't like it, you probably won't like the show. Also, Leo McGarry is the most perfect character to ever grace the screen.
executivehpfan 25th-Jan-2012 01:15 am (UTC)
Leo McGarry. <3
baked_goldfish 25th-Jan-2012 01:17 am (UTC)
He had me at "came to a sudden arboreal stop."
executivehpfan 25th-Jan-2012 01:25 am (UTC)
He had me when he first called President Bartlet "Jed". And I was head over heels during the Shareef "moral absolutes" argument. By the time the "friend in the hole" speech was made, I was promising to name future children after him.

Edited at 2012-01-25 01:26 am (UTC)
baked_goldfish 25th-Jan-2012 01:37 am (UTC)
Dude, HS,FTTT is when I started shipping Jed/Leo. Everything about him, good and bad, is amazing.
executivehpfan 25th-Jan-2012 01:52 am (UTC)
LOL I actually came into the series thinking I wasn't going to ship anybody. And Jed/Leo just fucking blind-sided me.

GOD I miss that show. Fuck.
baked_goldfish 25th-Jan-2012 07:00 am (UTC)
I wasn't really into shipping until that show. Like I'd read fic about whatever pairings, but I was never OTP about anything until Jed/Leo, or OT3 about anything before Jed/Abbey/Leo. Just, Leo was so heartbroken in HS,FTTT? And then the napkin scene in B4A? And then in season 5's SOTU episode, when Abbey was like, "Hey Leo, forget about your ex getting re-married to some loser, come spend a ~president's weekend~ with us instead"? And the goddamn candle-lit dinner?

I can't even. I really don't think I'll ever ship anything as hard as that.

Edited at 2012-01-25 07:02 am (UTC)
arabian 25th-Jan-2012 01:17 am (UTC)
If you can watch the opening scene of the opening episode and you don't like it, you probably won't like the show.

I'd actually disagree with this because I didn't like the first episode much the first time I watched it, but decided to give the show another chance and it got brilliant pretty damn quickly.
baked_goldfish 25th-Jan-2012 01:24 am (UTC)
Huh. I felt the teaser through the scene where Leo's walking through the WH were pretty emblematic of everything people either love or hate about Sorkin's writing. I definitely did not care for the Mandy parts, though.
arabian 25th-Jan-2012 04:39 am (UTC)
Did anyone care for the Mandy parts, LOL? I ask this seriously, because I'm actually a Moira Kelly fan and I could barely stand her.
baked_goldfish 25th-Jan-2012 07:04 am (UTC)
I don't know! There was something awful about how Sorkin wrote her, though I appreciate that she just sort of disappeared without a trace or further mention after season 1.
txvoodoo 25th-Jan-2012 01:24 am (UTC)
And, when you go back and watch the first ep again after seeing the whole series, it seems so...quaint. :D (except for the bit about the religious people).
fishphile 25th-Jan-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
Okay, I'm seeing interesting opinions here. I'll definitely go back and give the first season a try.
txvoodoo 25th-Jan-2012 01:22 am (UTC)
In a word: yes.

There are varying fandom opinions on different seasons, but as a whole, it's fabulous.
fishphile 25th-Jan-2012 01:29 am (UTC)
TY! I know where I can get a first season set for uber cheap so I'll try that.
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