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Washington House Passes Same-Sex Marriage Bill

3:57 pm - 02/08/2012
OLYMPIA, Wash. -- Washington state moved a step closer to becoming the seventh state to legalize same-sex marriage Wednesday when the House of Representatives voted to send the bill to Gov. Chris Gregoire for her signature.

Next up: what is sure to be a long, expensive political battle, asking voters to support or overturn the law.

In a 55-43 vote, the House approved the bill that would allow gay and lesbian couples to legally obtain a marriage license. The bill would not require churches or other religious organizations to perform ceremonies for same-sex couples.

Last week, the state Senate voted 28-21 in favor of the bill.

Gov. Gregoire has said she will sign it into law.

Because there is no emergency clause on the bill, the law wouldn't take effect for 90 days. Opponents have already promised a referendum battle at the ballot, so it's likely it could be put on hold pending the outcome of a November election. If opponents are unable to gather enough signatures to qualify for the ballot, couples could marry starting in June.

A KING 5/Survey USA poll taken in January shows state voters are split on whether they support a law approving same-sex marriage.

Washington state has had a domestic partnership law since 2007, and an "everything but marriage" expansion of that law since 2009.

Same-sex marriage is legal in New York, Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont and the District of Columbia.

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YEAHHHHHHHHHHH. But ugh seriously dnw it to go to voters.
ohmiya_sg 9th-Feb-2012 12:47 am (UTC)
Here's hoping they don't get enough signatures.
krazykat88 9th-Feb-2012 12:49 am (UTC)
I was coming here to post this. lol.
Anyway, hooray!
But boooo about it possibly going to a vote - the majority shouldn't get to vote on the rights of minorities...
Question - how likely is it that the people opposed to it could successfully get it put to a vote, and how likely is it that people would vote against it?
nikoel 9th-Feb-2012 01:51 am (UTC)
Likely and not as likely, respectively. I realllllly hope it won't end up on my ballot this Nov, but I could definitely see the opposition getting enough signatures. I think marriage equality will ultimately pass though.
nonnycat 9th-Feb-2012 02:47 am (UTC)
Pretty much this. My only concern is that there are a lot of people who nominally support it, but maybe not enough to go out of their way to vote. Granted, WA has mail-in ballots for everything, so it's not as much a pain as having to go out and find a voting center and wait in line and deal with people.

If it goes to a vote, I will nagging the hell out of certain people.
nikoel 9th-Feb-2012 12:09 pm (UTC)
This exactly.
skellington1 9th-Feb-2012 12:54 am (UTC)
Hooray for my state!

I'm hoping they don't get enough signatures, but I'm afraid they will. With paid signature gatherers it's just an issue of money.

I strongly suspect the referendum wouldn't pass if it does come to a vote, but that's not really the point -- civil rights should be decided via popular vote.

Anyway, looking forward (not really) to a lot of hate around here in the next few months. I've already seen one anti-marriage-equality billboard in town, and if anyone's ever been to Olympia, well... their message has as much chance of catching on here as an atheist billboard in the bible belt. It sticks out like a giant sore thumb.

It'll be interesting, one way or t'other. I remember being pleasantly surprised at the lack of nastiness when the 2007 bill went in to effect (and my parental unit was running the building where the actual first not-marriages were taking place, so was kind of in the thick of things) -- it was a giant, happy party, and the haters were no-shows. I'd love a repeat of that!
drfardook 9th-Feb-2012 01:20 am (UTC)
I'd feel sorry for the people who are going to be assigned to try to collect signatures in Seattle and Olympia but they really should know better than to take that job. Maybe they'll have to disguise themselves as the weed legalization campaign to avoid getting beaten up.

If they do get on the ballot I'm hoping that Microsoft and some of the other major employers in the area will be throwing some serious change into defeating the initiative. Marriage legalization would probably save them an enormous amount of money and simplify how they provide benefits to their employees so I'm sure its in their best interests (financially if not morally) to see marriage equality stick.
skellington1 9th-Feb-2012 02:09 am (UTC)
They won't get beaten up. They'll just get lectured sternly until they feel like shit, which seems reasonably fair. :P

I believe Microsoft and Boeing are already on board. Have to see if they put their money where their mouth is. Another interesting possibility is that with the haters spending their cash on the prop8 battle (if it continues) and the presidential election, perhaps there won't be enough to spare for sig gathering in WA. One can hope...

Your disguise idea amuses me, though. "Okay, people! Today we go fight the good fight, to keep america pure and free of teh scary gayz. You'll be deep in enemy territory, so here's your hemp-fest t-shirt and your hendrix badge."
kyra_neko_rei 9th-Feb-2012 06:47 am (UTC)
Now I'm amused at the concept of the haters calling for a boycott of Boeing. "All right people, nobody buy any Boeing airplanes . . . er, um, or fly on any Boeing airplanes, uh . . . well, I guess we'll just need to scowl disapprovingly every time we engage in air travel."
nikoel 9th-Feb-2012 12:33 pm (UTC)
It does seem reasonable! I will definitely engage in stern lecturing as long as I'm not volunteering for Planned Parenthood at the time!

It was the Mormon church behind Prop 8 and they seem to have a LOT of money. I feel like they will get enough petition signatures, but I'm wondering if there isn't something else that can be done to prevent it from getting on the ballot in light of the recent Prop 8 ruling.

Hendrix badge! I want one!
13chapters 9th-Feb-2012 06:25 pm (UTC)
You can get them at the EMP, I think. My dad got Hendrix stickers there, which he affixed to the bumpers of both of the cars my parents had at the time. They had two Honda Accords, which are so common it was sometimes confusing in the parking lot, but no one else had Hendrix stickers on their bumpers.
marywebgirl 9th-Feb-2012 01:57 am (UTC)
I don't know, I saw the marijuana legalization signature people EVERYWHERE and that didn't work.
skellington1 9th-Feb-2012 02:02 am (UTC)
The marijuana legalization sig gatherers had a different kind of thing going on, though -- I think most of them were volunteers (which imho is how all petition gathering should be).

I remember running into 'em all weekend at the Folklife Festival, and they were always go-gettings in the morning, but by one p.m. they were in a stoned heap on the fountain lawn.

Give 'em credit, you knew they believed in their cause!

Edited at 2012-02-09 02:02 am (UTC)
lexiloumarie 9th-Feb-2012 02:55 am (UTC)
they were always go-gettings in the morning, but by one p.m. they were in a stoned heap on the fountain lawn.

Give 'em credit, you knew they believed in their cause!



This commment. Dead.

skellington1 9th-Feb-2012 02:10 am (UTC)
NOTE: Just realized I said "should" when I meant "shouldn't." Civil rights SHOULD NOT be decided by popular vote.
nonnycat 9th-Feb-2012 02:48 am (UTC)
Hah. Indeed. Oly has run to liberal ever since I grew up here.
13chapters 9th-Feb-2012 12:57 am (UTC)
woohoo washington state!

how long do they have to collect signatures, and how many do they need?

eta: From this article, which just appeared on my tumblr dash:

In October, a University of Washington poll found that an increasing number of people in the state support same-sex marriage. About 43% of respondents said they support gay marriage, up from 30 percent in the same poll five years earlier. Another 22% said they support giving identical rights to gay couples, without calling the unions "marriage."

If a challenge to gay marriage law was on the ballot, 55% said they would vote to uphold the law. And 38% said they would vote to reject a gay marriage law.


Edited at 2012-02-09 01:15 am (UTC)
nikoel 9th-Feb-2012 12:36 pm (UTC)
I just saw that they have until June 6th to turn in their signatures because the law would go into effect on June 7th. I don't know how many they need still though.
fickery 9th-Feb-2012 01:05 am (UTC)
\o/

A coworker of mine was just telling me the other day how much it it costs him financially not to be married to his partner. Although thankfully our company is progressive enough to include same-sex partners on benefits, so his partner is covered under his health insurance, he still has to pay taxes on it as though it were income, which is bullshit.

I wish it wasn't going to go to the voters, but if it does, we're going to win. It's still exciting news. Yay!
skeletwin 9th-Feb-2012 01:16 am (UTC)
I HAVE FAITH
celtic_thistle 9th-Feb-2012 01:19 am (UTC)
:')
_sepia 9th-Feb-2012 01:20 am (UTC)
mah state <3 :'D
romp 9th-Feb-2012 01:43 am (UTC)
Congrats, Washington!

couples could marry starting in June
I see what you did there, WA.
nikoel 9th-Feb-2012 01:59 am (UTC)
It would be the most amazing gay pride weekend in history.
gloraelin 9th-Feb-2012 05:48 am (UTC)
fuck. yes.
magus_69 9th-Feb-2012 06:54 am (UTC)
There could be a literal Wedding March in the Pride Parades, and it would be TOTALLY AWESOME!
nikoel 9th-Feb-2012 12:08 pm (UTC)
Omg omg. I do not want to have to wait until next year for that!!
ouzelum_bird 9th-Feb-2012 07:21 am (UTC)
♥ :)
bnmc2005 9th-Feb-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
crossfire 9th-Feb-2012 05:32 pm (UTC)
A+
erunamiryene 9th-Feb-2012 03:28 am (UTC)
Rights shouldn't be VOTED ON - THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CALLED "RIGHTS".

Jayzus Christmas.

I mean, this is awesome for Washington, but shit. No, that is not how it's supposed to work.
johnjie 9th-Feb-2012 03:51 am (UTC)
HOORAY!

I really hope that the attempts to overturn it fail.
tabaqui 9th-Feb-2012 06:10 am (UTC)
I know, i know. Laws are good, votes are good, we have the right to fight things.

But man...sometimes i wish some thing were just totally off limits.

Yay for Washington, and i hope they utterly fail at getting any signatures at all.
hinoema 10th-Feb-2012 10:02 am (UTC)
I'm curious to see what would happen if ti *did* go to a vote and voters upheld the decision by a huge majority. Do they say 'Well, legislators said yes and voters say yes, I guess we'll just give up and go home'?

No, these people only acknowledge the authority of the law and the will of the voter when it agrees with their beliefs. Otherwise, it's a perversion of the vote and a deception of the voters and it will have to get to the point where people realize that these types will NEVER play fair, so they simply can't play, period.
hinoema 10th-Feb-2012 10:03 am (UTC)
*Perversion of the law.
tabaqui 10th-Feb-2012 05:31 pm (UTC)
Yeah, i get that feeling too - it's like the GOP crowing about state's rights, but when a state has laws they don't like (same-sex marriage) they want it banned because it's 'not the will of the people'.

Hypocrites.
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